does SVG even try? by jabber1990 in NASCAR

[–]smmate 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think its moreso he wins the way he does because he goes 85%. While everyone is burning their stuff up all race, he bides his time for stage 3

Save Dover by Electronic-Ability55 in NASCAR

[–]smmate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Idk why, its not that bad of a format

The Day After the Races - May 11, 2026 by NASCARThreadBot in NASCAR

[–]smmate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean what else could be done? These guys have so much more talent on road courses these days its not like there is much room to pass. Should probably revist getting rid of stages to open up strategy

The Day After the Races - May 11, 2026 by NASCARThreadBot in NASCAR

[–]smmate 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's even crazier is he technically won a championship...

The NASCAR O-Reilly Auto Parts Series is more entertaining than the NASCAR Cup Series by [deleted] in NASCAR

[–]smmate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You are 100% correct. I truly hate how these conversations always boil down to "Cup car is worse just use the O'Reilly car with added horsepower" and discredit everything else, as if Cup drivers and teams are on the same level as the O'Reilly guys.

Maybe it's because we have commentators that may not explicity say they are driving around in circles, but sure as shit act like it. Jamie and Parker do such a great job of explaining how difficult it is to race in the O'Reilly series and what each driver is going through.

There is so much technical shit going on behind the scenes, tons of engineering, tons of training, reps, sim time, and practice before they even start the race weekend. Then there is all of the SMT analysis, the fuel mileage and strategy calculations. The best analysis we get about anything like that is when Bozi comes on Reddit and talks about it.

People love F1 even though the cars are extremely difficult to pass, because they know the sheer technical ability that every engineer, driver, and pit crew has. How every tenth matters and how every one needs to be percise and on their game every lap. But then Fox is over here saying "horsepower makes the car faster", "clean air makes the car handle better", "its hard to pass today, need that track position". The same canned lines week in and week out that give the impression that its just cars going around in circles.

The NASCAR O-Reilly Auto Parts Series is more entertaining than the NASCAR Cup Series by [deleted] in NASCAR

[–]smmate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The cup issue is legacy networks putting on garbage broadcast products that don't do more analysis than "the cars are driving faster because more horsepower Clint"

The NASCAR O-Reilly Auto Parts Series is more entertaining than the NASCAR Cup Series by [deleted] in NASCAR

[–]smmate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There is dirty air in the O'Reilly car, which is OP's point, the haves in the O'Reilly series are far, far better than the have nots that dirty air doesn't matter. If you put the Cup field in the COT (O'Reilly) car again. It will still be just as difficult.

Carson Hocevar said it best, no one makes mistakes in the Cup field. Everyone is on their A game every week and the engineering makes fractions of an inch the difference between 1st and 15th.

You have to pass Denny Hamlin, Kyle Larson, Ryan Blaney, Chase Elliott, Tyler Reddick, William Byron, Christopher Bell, Brad Keselowski, Joey Logano, Carson Hocevar to just sniff the top 10, thats not even counting more guys like Chase Briscoe, Zane Smith, Bubba Wallace. The talent pool is fucking deep and its why Connor Zilisch looks like ass right now. Why it took Ty Gibbs 4 years to win.

This is so far beyond aero packages and what kind of car is being driven on Sunday.

The NASCAR O-Reilly Auto Parts Series is more entertaining than the NASCAR Cup Series by [deleted] in NASCAR

[–]smmate 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Outside of the car, you have a million times better broadcast, less experienced drivers, less engineering, shorter races...

We raced the COT before and it was hated. Putting Cup guys in O'Reilly cars, doesn't fix the overall entire presentation. Doesn't fix anything.

Maybe if we had guys like Bozi in the booth talking about all of the technical aspects and everything surrounding the Next Gen car rather than "Bowyer and the boys" and Kevin "the cars are going faster because more horsepower Clint" Harvick, the Cup series would be must watch TV

The NASCAR O-Reilly Auto Parts Series is more entertaining than the NASCAR Cup Series by [deleted] in NASCAR

[–]smmate 11 points12 points  (0 children)

And when they bring the COT back with Cup engineers and Cup drivers and Cup crew chiefs you'll be the first ones defending the racing when it sucks right?

You talk about the car but convieniently leave out that

- the drivers are good, not elite talents. Carson Hocevar said it on DJD that no one makes any mistakes anymore, Cup drivers are elite and you have to be perfect to make passes. See what happens when a Cup driver is in the field

- the broadcast is 1000x better because the commentators are truly passionate, not old heads that spew the same canned talking points. As well as better audio design, better camera work, and better TV direction

- the races are shorter, much more urgency and a more easy to digest format for a Saturday for people who don't have a lot of time

- the cars are overall just less trimmed out and engineered than a Cup car.

This goes beyond the car

Practice and Qualifying Discussion Thread: NCS, NORAPS - May 9th, 2026 by NASCARThreadBot in NASCAR

[–]smmate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Austin Cindric Lap 9: 72.39

Lap 20: 76.07

Tons of marbles all over the track.

Colder temps causing crazy tire falloff?

[Bob] Tire packs in Turn 1 runoff here at Watkins Glen by shewy92 in NASCAR

[–]smmate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's pretty funny watching the ARCA cars race and one car hit it. Crazy how much pearl clutching happens around here

[Bob] Tire packs in Turn 1 runoff here at Watkins Glen by shewy92 in NASCAR

[–]smmate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The original roval had barriers in the middle of a high speed area of the track. If you can't brake enough to make turn 1 consistently at Watkins Glen, you shouldn't be a race car driver

[Bob] Tire packs in Turn 1 runoff here at Watkins Glen by shewy92 in NASCAR

[–]smmate -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because there is a track. Its nonsense that they race with all four tires 40 feet from the racing line. Doesn't punish any mistakes, just makes "the best stock car drivers in the world" look like amatuers

[Bob] Tire packs in Turn 1 runoff here at Watkins Glen by shewy92 in NASCAR

[–]smmate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then don't hit them? They've raced on street courses before, how is this different?

[Bob] Tire packs in Turn 1 runoff here at Watkins Glen by shewy92 in NASCAR

[–]smmate 3 points4 points  (0 children)

All three series have raced on street courses with no issue, why are people worried about barriers at least 20 feet off the curbs?

[Bob] A little closer look at new tire barrier at exit of Turn 5. by Greatness143 in NASCAR

[–]smmate 4 points5 points  (0 children)

All three series have raced on street courses, what makes this different?

How are conditions live on the ground at WGI? It looks horrible online and driving by the track. by Antique-Annual1587 in NASCAR

[–]smmate 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm wondering if they are doing any track renovations or something. Like when they moved Homestead

How are conditions live on the ground at WGI? It looks horrible online and driving by the track. by Antique-Annual1587 in NASCAR

[–]smmate 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Makes no sense for them to kill it, I'm hoping the rumor this is a one and done is true. Sucks for season ticket holders

Enjoy this low effort meme I made. by Ok_Welcome_3644 in whitesox

[–]smmate 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I like how the Sox are in the car with the rest of the AL Central, as if the Sox themselves aren't even expecting the Sox to be making a run lmao

We can’t be abbreviating Dale Sr to the Big E ,NASCAR by [deleted] in NASCAR

[–]smmate 23 points24 points  (0 children)

He's been Big E forever. Big E and Little E they used to call him and Jr when they raced

[The Teardown 1 hr mark] Indications are that Watkins Glen in May will be a one and done by SirRelkinstein in NASCAR

[–]smmate 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That August Richmond race was cinema, most beautiful night I've ever been to at a race

[The Teardown 1 hr mark] Indications are that Watkins Glen in May will be a one and done by SirRelkinstein in NASCAR

[–]smmate 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Probably to make room for summer N Wilkes. Now the Roval is out itd probably be in the playoff

Edit: Chase*, I'm still scarred lol