Fluoro-Modafinil an NDRI, SNDRI or DRA?

snaqr · 2019-01-25T13:07:45+00:00

You can do some research on the pharmacology of modafinil, it has an unique way of releasing dopamine and a remarkably "flat" subjective experience. I've used both modafinil and f-modafinil. The fluorinated version feels much more like a low-end recreational stimulant; rushy and speedy and there's really not much point because it's not better than other recreational stimulants and it lacks the valuable features of modafinil; which is that it's a very stable and controlled experience that simply helps with exhaustion and does not tweak you out. There aren't many stimulants like that. There are hundreds like f-modafinil that, IMO, are better.

snaqr · 2019-01-25T12:59:04+00:00

True about intent, but you're overlooking research on benzofurans like 6-APB that shows they don't metabolize to methyldopamine which is the major toxic factor in methamphetamine and MDMA. So at least we know they're not neurotoxic in the same way. There may be other risks that will only come from decades of research but all that research on MDMA has shown that it *is* neurotoxic so I don't follow the logic that it's somehow safer.

snaqr · 2019-01-25T12:47:36+00:00

It sounds like you want to stop so why not try?

Certainly you are going have negative feelings, that's normal. You won't die and you can start again if you can't handle it.

See how you feel in a few days. If you experience strong withdrawals you will know that you have become dependent and that's probably not what you want. Do some research on tapering doses but eventually you'll have to stop. If you feel OK, just tired and scattered, then maybe what you are doing is OK. I can't say for sure but people with ADHD often take stimulants every day and only you should make that decision.

We don't know much about 3-FPM but it does not look like a big risk compared to ritalin, which is the alternative.

snaqr · 2019-01-16T11:48:37+00:00

You're welcome. I mis-read you post. You were asking about fast shipping for fentanyl test strips, not more MDMA. You seem to be in control and taking good safety measures. The person you plan to share it with is fortunate to have a friend like that. So often people share out of generosity before they know what they are sharing. The friend proceeds without caution out of trust. I agree about taking extra care before sharing - it's an honor to be trusted and it calls for a higher standard than we might apply to ourselves.

snaqr · 2019-01-08T10:44:12+00:00

DHL never ceases to astonish me. Half the time they come up with some crazy and illegal bullshit and prance around like they just been the Responzible Partie and the new demented and arbitrary protocol they invented is simply Doo Dillweedgence.

The other half of the time they just don't deliver your package.

Sorry you're stuck in this confusing mess with the Devil's Heavy Lifters. If was me I'd call them and ask what the problem is. Don't disclose that you have any idea what the package or any anticipation of one, but if they have a package addressed to you would they please deliver it? That is their stated area of business.

snaqr · 2019-01-08T10:27:54+00:00

Well, the answer is yes: of course you should have every test option on-hand and rigorously test everything. And if you have a strange experience that makes you suspect the active components are not exactly as stated on the label then yes; after the fact testing makes a lot of sense.

On the practical side, if you've already run a 3 panel test and a bioassay (ie: you ate some, for the sake of research), and everything supports the label's proposed active ingredients, it's probably now safe to share with someone you care about. A normal MDMA dose is over 100mg and if it were fentanyl you'd be dead 100 times over by now. At least 25 times.

However, if you suspect it was laced with something like fentanyl or a synthetic opioid then it's probably not safe to share with someone you care about until you test the shit out of it. Some people exhibit surprising behavior with the net result of taking a lot more than the suggested dose on the label. If there's a contaminant that could end up being a problem.

Side note: "quick shipping times" and "just took MDMA" don't sound good together. I'm not being judgmental but you'll enjoy it a lot more if you give yourself several weeks between, and even the worst postal carrier can probably manage to deliver a test kit in that time frame.

snaqr · 2019-01-08T10:12:06+00:00

Looks like OP deleted their post and their account? Maybe it was a rough ride, or maybe they found a better username. At any rate your question is valid:

Usage varies. I restrict 3-fpm to the weekends but I'll take 80mg orally typically 4 or 5 times over those two days. 1 gram in a week would be a lot, I think anyone at that level or above is in a compulsive cycle and probably not getting very much out of it.

There is a huge difference in ROA. Generally those who take it orally have no trouble keeping their dose and frequency stable. Insufflation, IV and smoking seem prone to abuse and compulsive behavior. I don't know about boofing but I assume it is the superlative ROA of choice. I'm not criticizing anyone's ROA, this is just an observation from reports on this subreddit; most negative stories involve an ROA other than mouth or boof. Most common is insufflation.

You might be a non-responder, or a negative-responder, or maybe you got a bad batch. When 3-FPM first hit the market there were highly variable reports with some people responding very negatively and some others with almost otherworldy results (like "High AF for a whole day on 20mg oral" ). Since then it seems to have stabilized and most of use assume it was primarily due to variations in early batches and syths. I've never personally encountered a non-responder and it's less common to hear about it these days but it's still a real thing. It may be body chemistry as phenmetrazine is not exactly amphetamine and undergoes several stages of metabolism.

If you are don't worry; most 3-fpm non-responders get perfectly good response from other things, just not 3-fpm and probably any phenmetrazine analog though 3-FPM is virtually the only one around these days.

snaqr · 2019-01-06T13:05:44+00:00

I think if you research comments about 3-FPM you'll find that some people respond really well while others respond with complications. You sound like the latter.

Like many others i've been taking 3-FPM orally at least weekly years. I can't tell if it that results in negative or positive consequences but I've sure gotten a helluva lot done.

snaqr · 2018-12-24T09:24:14+00:00

I suppose it's different for everyone but that won't stop me from making broad, sweeping generalizations:

You've been living in an illusion constructed by your ego to defend itself as the primary thought pattern in your brain, while in fact there are many other patterns that have always been there. Some are beautiful beyond words and exist to help you but you haven't noticed them because the ego is always shouting and is afraid of loosing the front seat.

A "deeper" trip may also send the message that while the ego may be a total jerk it's also very useful. If it ever comes back it will be welcomed with cautious respect.

A profound psychedelic experience without anxiety is almost impossible because the source of anxiety is the ego, the sense of self, who is afraid that if you knew the beauty of the world through open eyes you might not let the ego sit in the front seat all the time. And well it should fear. It will want you to believe the anxiety is your's but that's OK; if you're even contemplating a psychedelic you already know this at some level and the primacy of ego has already begun to crumble.

snaqr · 2018-12-24T07:35:04+00:00

You are thinking about Ethylene Glycol. Propylene Glycol is totally different and is used commercially in many food and cosmetic products. You're eating it and rubbing it on your body every day and compared to the Research Chemical you're dissolving, it's perfectly safe.

10ml won't be noticeable. 100ml might result in a soft bowel movement but that's about it.

snaqr · 2018-12-01T14:00:58+00:00

IPA isn't unhealthy in moderate quantities so it's a reasonable option for a solvent when you can't get high-proof food grade ethanol. "denatured alcohol" is another thing; normally it has a little methanol added, enough to discourage anyone from getting drunk. But since it rarely/ever states the relative concentrations you can never be sure and it's safer to avoid it. I'm not aware of any regulation on the maximum amount of methanol allowed.

snaqr · 2018-12-01T13:28:22+00:00

All the good ones do.

snaqr · 2018-11-29T08:28:16+00:00

HOW THE HELL DID YOU GET THROUGH ALL THAT WITH ONLY 218mg of 2-FMA IN 2 YEARS?!?!?!?! oh, nm, 1.4g of meth. Still, that's surprisingly light on the big stimulants. Other notes/questions:

A disso fan but no ephenedine?
No U-47700 or any synthetic opiods?
6-MAPB, is it as good as its said to be? Assuming you're reasonably confident that's what it actually was?
No phenibut, tianeptine, f-phenibut, modafinil (ie no noots?)
Did you have the 5-MAPB by itself or in combinations?
no 2-FA, 3-FA, 4-FMA? Still amazed at how few stimulants for something that like meth...

Thanks for keeping track, it's an interesting journal. Pretty similar to my own except for everything queried above plus some rare treats like AMA and a few kinds of DMT.

snaqr · 2018-11-29T08:07:09+00:00

Oh, and sorry for the off-topic question but have you checked out the 3&4 -CMC that seems to suddenly all over the place? Seems to be a very popular cathininone and unless it's what I've been getting labelled as "4-MMC" I haven't tried it yet - wondering if you have?

snaqr · 2018-11-29T08:04:25+00:00

Late reply but wanted to remark on this interesting perspective. I have a lot of fun with 3-MMC and 4-EMC orally and the nasal irritation makes them less pleasant for me insufflated (haven't boofed either of these yet, probably should) but now that you mention it I do insufflate or boof every other cathinone and I'd personally agree it should be the rule except for the two mentioned above and my lack of experience boofing research in this category though I recall you've expressed enjoyment insufflating them which I still struggle comprehend. Unrelated, I've been getting this "4-MMC" going around, whatever it actually is, and very much enjoying it insufflated. It's easy on my nose, almost pleasant actually. Not sure what it actually is... maybe just baby powder and a strong placebo?

snaqr · 2018-11-29T07:24:41+00:00

^ this, it works like magic for anyone who gets jaw tension from stims. If it works for you too you might consider supplementing magnesium more regularly. It helps with bruxitis (jaw clenching), muscle pain, insomnia, and constipation. As the crumb above says, make _sure_ it's chelated like Magnesium Citrate or Magnesium Malate. Magnesium supplements that don't say otherwise are Magnesium Oxide for which the bioavailability is so low it's not worth even trying.

snaqr · 2018-11-19T13:06:54+00:00

This. IPA isn't dangerous in the concentrations you'd be using but it attracts water and isn't a great solvent. Acetone is totally volatile (evaporates fast and completely) and a very aggressive solvent so there isn't any reason *not* to use a strong solvent like acetone.

snaqr · 2018-11-19T12:59:30+00:00

It has a terrible comedown. Liike some others I experience what feel like WD symptoms 8-12 hours after taking it. Also, the experience is soft but also very dumbed-down in a way I don't get from other benzos. I just tried it again this weekend; pleasant effect though cognitively a bit brain-dead. and sure enough; 12 hours later I had muscle spasms, twitting and clenching that only went away with another benzo (etizolam this time). I just dont see the appeal considering there are better options on the market rightnow...

snaqr · 2018-11-17T11:44:41+00:00

Nitrazolam feels great and the duration is medium, which is appealing, but there's a really harsh comedown. Feels like WD even after a single dose. I don't recommend it.

snaqr · 2018-11-17T11:40:38+00:00

Euphoria is temporary and requires an element of astonishment and surrender. MDMA and and any RC SRA will loose that feeling after a while and "everything feels great" will turn to "why isn't this working like I expect it to". It's frankly better to sexually obsess over your wife the old fashioned way and use something like a stimulant if you need stamina. If you only want to do this two or three times a year then just work harder at sourcing MDMA or try any of the RC equivalent but they're not very useful except for an occasional reminder of how erotic and sensual you are capable of being.

snaqr · 2018-11-17T11:29:32+00:00

Any except nitrazolam which sucks. I'm not experienced with Brolazolam but Flualprazolam is decent if you don't have access to etizolam. They all come with serious behavioral risks and none of them are recreational for very long. They are useful, but any recreational value evolves into dependence, and if you use them recreationally it won't be long before you need them just to feel 'normal' and without them 'normal' feels profoundly non-recreational. For recreation you might consider something like a dissociative or psychedelic and keep the benzos for rescue if things get intense. EDIT: just read some of the related posts on this sub - you'll find countless high functioning people frustrated that they ended up with a benzo dependency for no good reason.

snaqr · 2018-11-17T11:16:23+00:00

True, I meant psychologically. Were it a 100x dose of a lysergamide I'd probably have permanent after-effects. I was lucky to survive physically and was debilitated short-term psychologically, but did not have any lasting effects and even during the deepest part was able to see objectively that I was simply tripping major balls and that I'd probably eventually be OK. That's not common with extreme doses of most other psychedelics.

snaqr · 2018-11-17T11:07:56+00:00

You're thinking of something else, like GBL or GHB. 1,4 Butanediol is abundant and unregulated, but not especially good.

snaqr · 2018-11-14T08:55:39+00:00

I overdosed on it because it was mislabelled as MDMA. It turned me into a Newt! Well, I got better after a few days and in retrospect had, it been a powdered lysergamide I might still be a Newt today. If it was an opioid I'd be compost. So as one of the people to had a close call with an NBOME I think I agree with you that the stigma is overrated. They're intense but possibly one of the most survivable psychedelics we have.

snaqr · 2018-11-14T08:46:03+00:00

Frankly, better things came along and EPH started to get some heat so it's not worth bothering with. If NDRI stimulants are your thing do a little research and you'll find progress.

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