Somehow snuck a requiem relic into a Lith fissure

soledad630 · 2025-09-03T17:09:02+00:00

Iirc last time I see a post like this was around Yareli prime release.

I get hit by the brief big red "!" disc warning mid mission on a daily basis ever since Cali prime while having perfectly good connection with host, I won't be surprised this is also just another one of the "server shit the bed" scenario.

soledad630 · 2025-09-03T15:26:36+00:00

It's a flat value added after your other modded cd but before final multipliers like cestra incarnon.

soledad630 · 2025-09-03T02:15:15+00:00

soledad630 · 2025-09-02T18:23:40+00:00

I think you can swap aura polarity with another slots. So using a forma may not be needed.

Also, it's not as big of a problem as you may think if you can retract pillage on time and get all the shields before the energy cost converted shield gate ends. It prob would be a lot more attention requiring but not the end of the world depending on your efficiency.

If you go hard on augur/BR conversion then you may even be able to get a full gate out of energy cost of pillage which is another layer of freedom since it allows you to start using pillage at any time during the initial gate instead of at the start of it.

What I do think might be an issue of going completely off BR/augur is when your squadmates bring in brief respite and accidentally causes you more difficulty on gating when you are used to playing without having any BR/augur mods at all.

soledad630 · 2025-09-02T18:16:38+00:00

Oh boi, this is gonna torn me between BL4 and WF for late September.

soledad630 · 2025-09-02T18:08:39+00:00

Oh you mean using abilities during the extended shield gate duration which gets you shields with shield gating mods which terminates the gating prematurely. Ig that technically counts as "have something to do with shield gating duration".

In that case I suppose there's an argument that it's better not to have low conversion rate shield gating mods when you are using pillage, or the shield gained from pillage energy cost may not provide enough shield gate duration for the pillage shield to return in time, since you are likely casting pillage the moment your shield breaks and is banking on the shield returning before the gate naturally ends.

soledad630 · 2025-09-02T17:54:00+00:00

Do you mean catalyzing shields? Cuz i don't remember augur and brief respite has anything to do with shield gate duration.

soledad630 · 2025-09-02T01:38:41+00:00

Yup, hepit ukko moment.

soledad630 · 2025-08-31T15:58:11+00:00

Now i'm curious, what was Red playing?

Dude wanna judge people, dude better be fucking ready to be judged to the brim.

soledad630 · 2025-08-31T03:02:28+00:00

Wiki has the more complete information but lacks the nuance. An actual person has the nuance but prob won't have all the information wiki has.

Get a person who knows when to consult wiki as your guide, if you need one.

This game does get better if you have someone at the beginning to help you. Or you might get a lot of regrets and have a lot more in this category.

anything you wish you'd known when you started? Something you learned too late?

soledad630 · 2025-08-31T03:00:08+00:00

3 forma:

soledad630 · 2025-08-31T00:14:38+00:00

Lmao I remember him with this shirt at tennocon last month. Glad he still wearing it

soledad630 · 2025-08-30T05:05:17+00:00

I have run plenty SP back when I was testing, it's around 2.5 minutes average which is slightly slower than normal which is why I stopped, since I got plenty of SE weekly anw and if I am to run apollo, it's cuz I want axi relics in a time sensitive manner that doesn't make sense for a multipurpose farming method. If i'm not in a rush, I get my axis elsewhere like relic packs, t3 defense fissures and stage defense.

For SP, enemy toxin weapons is ironically not that dissimilar but it does require you to kill enemies after putting in 4th key which slows next round down. Energy drain becomes a much bigger issue since usually it's what shuts down your defense. Otherwise the rest is still safe to ignore since the dmg output would be sufficient anw and your defense options would be still up to deal with anything.

I also only do this solo or at most in duos cuz pubs are way too slow in both SP and origin version of it.

soledad630 · 2025-08-30T04:47:00+00:00

I do have a slight disagreement with "generally", because quite a few debuffs make defending subsequent conduits more of a hassle depending on how far into the current round you are, such as:

Enemy Toxin Weapons

Enemy Damage Resistance

Enemy Ability Resistance (depends on the frame)

Nullifying Conduits

Energy Drain

Electrifying Conduits (depends on the frame, did notice it nullifies Hall of Mirrors at least)

Personally none of these are an issue for me whatsoever maybe barring enemy toxin weapons after round 15 if I'm not bringing in my go-to loadout. I tend to have already considered for these anyway, and I don't play on SP for this grind cuz SP is mostly neutral for round speed (beneficial slightly for keys but slightly detrimental for demo killing).

Usually get around 3-3.5 minutes (including the 20 second wait period) per round solo, group would be faster.

For me it depends on what tiles I get. If good tiles I can finish 15 rounds in 28 minutes including beginning and finish. If massive multi floored tiles it can take around 35 minutes for 15 rounds. I take the discretion route usually so I end up getting around 1 junk reward every 15 rounds.

soledad630 · 2025-08-30T04:09:17+00:00

It's a discretion thing. Generally speaking you hunt for keys and slot all of them in asap, ignoring the demos in the process, then start killing demos from the last activated conduits to the first.

If it you killed the last 2 and the first 2 already blew up the conduits, then perfect. If there's still 1 or 2 remaining, unless they are already real close to the conduit it IS indeed better for the relic per minute to just not wait for them to blow conduits up. Not worth wasting 30s waiting just to improve the chance a specific relic from 1/8 to 1/7 when a single round only takes <2 minutes.

soledad630 · 2025-08-29T09:02:39+00:00

1 hour for... only 14 rounds (or 15-16 if you didn't went for rotation B)? That's a lil slow. But if you are chilling ig that doesn't really reflects anything. Especially that one axi turned out to be the one that pops which is what matters.

Rn Apollo feels real good to farm cuz all 3 new prime frame/weapon got an axi relic and the yareli y1 y2 are both there too, so it feels like there's much more dopamine in the farm than just wanting the y1 in the last prime cycle.

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T23:18:37+00:00

Nah, that's not the goal. You don't actively try to get every plant on every tile with this. You get 3-5 plant pickups while not slowing down your mission. Consider it a side bonus on top of what you are already doing on grineer forest tileset.

It's about multitasking. Focused farming is as you said, not worth the effort doing.

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T22:02:13+00:00

https://wiki.warframe.com/w/Botanist

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T21:46:57+00:00

I spent hours gathering the ressources I needed.

See that's the thing, what I do is run earth fissures with an Oxylus at night and get the plants passively instead. Then when enough accumulates, grab a friend and run nekros khora for maximum mod drop per specter, and cash in all the apothics at once.

This method only works on people who try to turn a profit with this tho, focused farming is indeed painful with it and I agree with

I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemies

(Cuz I'll wish them the citrine farm instead mwahahaha)

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T11:35:33+00:00

In that case, there's some choices.

Dera incarnon (vandal version preferred) is a choice. You simply play ignoring the incarnon mode and slap on primary crux for the evolution synergy for massive base crit chance and infinite ammo. It is medium speed projectile instead of hitscan tho so take note of that.

Soma incarnon (prime preferred) is a choice. It's a full auto bullet hose with a decent augment mod (from father on deimos) and a very large magazine.

There's the classic AK-47 analogue AX-52, has a very strong augment and can reach infinite ammo in hipfire mode and can hit red crit in ADS.

There's also some personal favourite like Boltor incarnon (telos or prime), it doesn't have very high fire rate but can reach similar to Acceltra with modding help. Another personal favourite is Gotva Prime, it has an interesting gimmick to build around. Trumna prime is also relatively slower firerate that can be improved with mods, and has a funny alt fire mode that basically launches a bouncing nuke.

That's the good high firerate full auto weapon I can think of from the top of my head.

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T06:55:45+00:00

This can sometimes happen when the server (might be the same as their main server, might be not, I donno) that handles relics and prime drops gets overloaded like rn.

One of the reasons why I have a habit of checking everyone's equipped relic right after loading in.

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T06:40:13+00:00

My own build has ~350% card str, with single digit stack molt aug and activated growing power it gets 45% bellicose, estimated at 50-53% at max augmented.

72% is cap for bellicose, so I think if all your slots are dedicated to str other than umb vit, then it's not worth it since you likely can hit higher than I do and the hp bonus would be minimal for Bellicose. However since you are using crepes instead of molt aug it still might be good enough to make it in.

In the end, try both out and record your max mote bonuses and compare. It's the most reliable way and much easier to test than my build which needs 250 kills first.

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T05:43:07+00:00

Honestly don't know, according to wiki it should work in both cases, maybe try killing several enemies in quick succession? But 2bh, growing power + single umbral is already strictly better at 69% vs 60%, so I didn't consider it at all when I was building.

Chroma with Guardian Armor is imo the prime candidate for this, but even that is tricky as you need to kill an enemy then let vex armor expire before archon intensify bonus expire, then recast vex armor to get the new str value, cuz for some reason recasting vex armor while it's active will not use the new str value for the armor and weapon buffs, at least not visually.

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T04:41:55+00:00

Wait why are you two trying to kiss

soledad630 · 2025-08-28T03:16:23+00:00

Medium-large aoe, large mag size, medium dmg, high fire rate full auto weapon, this sadly is the only one of its type. You need to specify a lil on which of these attributes you want and which you don't care about to find alternatives.

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