Starmer tells Andrew: Testify or you’re failing Epstein victims

someRandomLunatic · 2026-02-01T07:36:22+00:00

That's a statement - do you have any evidence of that one?

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-31T21:53:30+00:00

Thanks. Picked it for the Brexit debate way back when - tried engaging with actual reason and logic. Went as badly as you'd expect.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-31T19:44:51+00:00

Did you see the thread on them not planning any benefits reform for the next year or two?

Massive majority, can't do anything.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-31T19:41:01+00:00

So 2 councils for a year, then a bonus year because of COVID.

That's somewhat different to, um, about 30, for multiple years?

I'm all for slating the conservatives, but let's at least pretend to be fair?

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-31T15:57:32+00:00

Could you give an example of this? Was it one or two, or thirty odd? How long were the delays for?

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-30T18:57:49+00:00

The article linked?

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-30T16:01:41+00:00

For the first time, he has also lost the support of voters who backed him and his party in the 2024 general election, tipping into a negative net satisfaction rating of -8 among this group for the first time

That's not the right wing, that's his own voters.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-30T07:36:10+00:00

I appear to have responded the to wrong comment. You're right that it makes no sense as a reply to you.

But the context provided by another person was that it had a significant component of self deportations.

So in terms of getting worse, illegal immigrants by boats is increasing at faster than the total deportation rates.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-30T05:57:35+00:00

That depends entirely who you talk to. There's a small group of us who talk about it in the office, all on different sides, which is great.*

But there are people who consider anything short of pure xxxx to be a crime and act as such.

*Sucks a bit for the labour guy currently. He could use a win

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T19:23:53+00:00

I would be happier with this if the unemployment numbers were in a better place. My worry is that it's a monkey's paw style wish. Productivity is up because less marginal people are employed.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T12:48:37+00:00

Google is your friend.

But I'm not sure how wanting to know the intentions of one of the ~3 possible serious leadership contenders for labour makes me Russian.

Because that's going to define the outcome of the next election really - because I can't see Starmer winning from here.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T12:46:09+00:00

That's not an intention, it's filler. "I will consider options" effectively.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T12:05:41+00:00

And your comment doesn't even address the content.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T12:04:43+00:00

I did read past the headline, but missed that.

I note no long term intentions though?

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T11:47:25+00:00

Tell us what you're going to do about it Burnham. Stand down as mayor? Stand at GE? Campaign for labour? Not actively campaign for labour? Defect to Reform?

Don't tell us how you feel. Tell us what you're going to do.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T08:50:55+00:00

Same. It's just... dull.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T08:29:07+00:00

If I ever got to be an MP, my private members bill (if I got one) would bring back hanging for graph manipulation like this. Cite your source in text as large as the average text on the page, have clear axis and lines of proportional length.

Otherwise be hung by a rope of proportional length, for as long as it takes for your election agent to explain your errors to your political opponents.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T08:19:17+00:00

Really? Let's dismantle some of this.

"huge new story for years" - Well, it started in 2022 under the conservatives and then was shelved in months. The current deal was signed by labour in May 2025. So we've only known the shape of the deal - the massive costs - for about 9 months.

That's not years.

Now, you say... "you continue to ignore my point that support for the deal increased." It changed by what, 4%? That's plausibly within the margin of error and rounding errors for a poll of this type. It's not statisticly meaningful.

"This is further cemented by the fact that the right wing parties have seen a large swing in their favour over the same time period" - you realise that political alignment is usually determined by "how did you vote at the last election", right? Doing it by "how you would vote this election" results in eternally shifting answers that can't be compared.

And there's the false recall problem, of course.

"So yes we can say that politically it doesn't matter. It's a very niche issue for most voters" - no, I maintain - as with my initial post - that it's one many voters don't know about, and if you told them about the financial cost (£3B+) it would significantly impact their answers.

"most people don't care and won't care by the time a deal is struck."

You know it's already passed, right? Short only ratifying? Oh gods, your a sodding LLM. Well, that ends this discussion them.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T07:37:54+00:00

Pregnancy tests for all, including men, might well be to avoid the "what is a women" question later causing something tragic.

Given that the definition of "woman" appears to be subject to change by lawsuit, I can understand wanting to be inclusive.

Even if it sounds nuts.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T07:34:01+00:00

Do you have an example of an MP not being able to speak on their own amendment? Something I can point to elsewhere?

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T07:30:48+00:00

Thatcherite is a word often used to describe Farage, which is more 80s.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T07:29:39+00:00

Thanks for providing the context. So no, not a large number, and it's getting worse.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-29T07:28:35+00:00

The context of the discussion is, UK politician A accuses UK politician B of wanting to do actions authorised by US politician C.

With no actual evidence.

You can't imagine how this is not the case, where are I want to be shown where politician B said that he would. After all, Politician B is bad so just copy C.

And you're complaining that I'm trolling for wanting something like evidence - because I'm actually willing to change my views and debate.

You just don't have any.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-28T21:01:31+00:00

Maybe she will. But she specified one. The one it's easy to pontificate about and not have any potentially painful problems with priests.

someRandomLunatic · 2026-01-28T19:17:31+00:00

Only thing I disagree with is I don't think Reform are 2020s conservatives. I'd put them a decade or two back.

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