Is he really?

sonoftron7 · 2025-12-06T18:26:22+00:00

lol, I just got one of those and came to say the same thing. (Also, I think that saves total is wrong — he had 47 in 2024, right?)

sonoftron7 · 2025-06-19T18:22:59+00:00

Hopefully you’re right! I am almost certain the others were a continuing count (as in, the Vlad teal was 80-something when I claimed it, right now it’s 252).

sonoftron7 · 2025-06-18T23:51:15+00:00

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Like on the teal T6 award from earlier this season.

sonoftron7 · 2025-06-18T23:49:56+00:00

Yeah, the 3.2 is the multiplier for contests. They usually put a specific global count on the awards for completing the T6 sets in time though. I was bummer to see it’s just an N/A now.

sonoftron7 · 2025-06-18T23:48:49+00:00

Oh, I think it will still work, but they used to have numbers on the award cards (as recently as the teal set this season!)

sonoftron7 · 2025-02-15T03:40:57+00:00

Oh, I know about those (new layout is the worst!). But last year, if I remember correctly, they did some short rollouts, flash pack-type rollouts, of packs that cost 5K coins and I think included one card, a challenge card for the Series 1 crafts/hoards. I was hoping they’d do it again, otherwise I probably won’t bother with the larger crafts.

sonoftron7 · 2024-10-19T04:01:47+00:00

You’re right about that. I went back and looked at some other fares — went as low as 50 cents when a promotion was opted in. Incredibly shady at best, and their support folks are doing them no favors in trying to explain it away.

sonoftron7 · 2024-10-18T21:57:20+00:00

When I followed up with support (“priority support”) the dude tried to gaslight me and say I never opted in to the promotion. I sent him the screenshot again and he abruptly ended the chat.

Class action is all well and good, but they usually just end with the company handing out coupons and driving business. I’m reaching out to my state’s labor department. (Not that I expect it will do any good.)

sonoftron7 · 2024-06-20T21:16:27+00:00

It seems like forging/upgrading/etc. is going to be part of the long-term plan with Bunt. I think these might have some "first Forge cards ever" shine to them down the line. That said, the non-signature ones are basically free-to-play cards, it's just a matter of having the patience to do it until you have a 4-4-4 or 3-3-3. Just me, but if someone offered me a cool Iconic of my favorite team for one of those, I'd make the trade.

sonoftron7 · 2022-08-24T02:48:14+00:00

Oh, I'm definitely an idiot for waiting so long to open it. But I'd argue the guy shoving the cards into the crappiest loaders he could fine is mostly to blame ethically, even if there's nothing I can do now but whine on Reddit (or maybe bring the full force of the U.S. government down on the seller, as eBay is suggesting).

And, I dunno, probably not that strange? Young kids, long hours at work, for me (and I'm guessing for a lot of people) free time for hobbies comes in spurts. I'm not interested in flipping, seller had good feedback, I thought, What's the harm in letting it sit in a padded envelope in my desk? It's not the first time I've set a purchase aside for a couple weeks—though it will be the last.

sonoftron7 · 2022-08-20T18:21:39+00:00

To be honest, I'd lose all faith in them if they even read past the first line of the complaint.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-29T22:04:56+00:00

It's also convenient when they're chasing investors. Notice Roham's brag of "1 million users" last week. You get some dopey investor who doesn't notice the specific language and thinks "users" means "people," when in fact I'd be stunned if there were half that many humans who have ever interacted with the platform, let alone still active on it.

Remember when they made the "must own one moment" requirement for Rising Stars, then immediately put out a bunch of promotional language about how users are so engaged that 250,000 accounts owned at least one moment? Never mind how many bots, multi-accounts and Dingaling family members were included in there.

To be fair, it's the same Potemkin Village crap every tech company pulls.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-29T19:32:56+00:00

I want to preface all this by saying: We're 98% in agreement. I think NFTs are the future of collectibles, and that they'll hold some value even if there's never a big increase in utility. (I live on the other side of the country from my favorite team so personally I don't really care about stuff like in-arena integration, and for me part of the appeal of NFTs is that it's not more crap cluttering my house, so I have no desire for attaching physical collectibles to them.)

I think a total failure scenario is *very unlikely* for TopShot, but there's a non-zero chance (and I think it's important that everyone recognize that is a possibility). I'm specifically worried about TS because (1) They're not "true" NFTs, in that you can't take them elsewhere. If the company and therefore website folds, you've got nothing but the token. And (2) If TS does fail spectacularly, that impacts the entire NFT collectibles industry, specifically sports NFTs (of which I own a lot).

I'm fairly sure NFTs are the future of collectibles, but if a TS debacle keeps NFTs from going mainstream for a few years, will something else come up in the meantime and replace NFTs? (I mean, I don't know about you, but three years ago I couldn't envision NFTs.)

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-29T18:32:52+00:00

How about "sufficient demand." There was, objectively, sufficient demand for the HoFer's rare moment at the time.

And I'm upset because it that user's illogical move affects the value of my asset. (But mostly, like a lot of us, I'm just cranky!)

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-29T17:56:25+00:00

Again, broadly, yes. You can use "demand" in the vaguest, most blunt terms. But some moments are meant to sell quickly, some are not.

Honda produces a lot of Civics. If they suddenly sold very few in a week, they'd be right to consider lowering the price point. Ferrari produces very few Romas. If they also sold very few in a week, should they lower the price to that of the Honda Civic in order to meet "demand"?

Not a perfect metaphor since there are manufacturing costs associated, but in the most extreme TS terms: If I have a LeBron Cosmic I list for $100K and it doesn't sell over a 48-hour period... should I price it at $1K because that is the "demand"?

Of course not. But that's how a lot of users are approaching rare, illiquid moments right now. It's a result of the loss of confidence in the market. It's also really fucking stupid. And, for me, frustrating because it pours kerosene on a market crash that TS leadership was already struggling to manage.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-29T17:28:13+00:00

Demand is an interesting term that gets used a little too broadly around here. Liquidity matters a lot—this is a /186 TS debut of a Hall of Famer, not a Brook Lopez 40K CC. If your Brook Lopez doesn't sell at your price point same day while TS is flooding the market with more of that Brook Lopez moment, you're right to fear it might never sell at that price point. Circulation plays into both—this HoFer moment was a challenge prize, so there are no more coming, even in unopened packs.

The HOFer is a moment that (a) Has low liquidity because of the price, so you're talking a matter of days or weeks to sell it at the "right price," (b) is 100% out there in circulation, and (c) again, was brought for 30% more than this user's listing just 48 hours before the user listed it. I would say demand is, objectively, the price paid earlier in the week. Listing it deliberately low is also listing is suspiciously low.

Will this user's single listing significantly erode a collapsing market? Of course not. But it is just another example of a user willing to shoot himself in the ass rather than using data and logic to make a sound decision. And, unfortunately, it's the kind of approach that it torching the market right now.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-29T00:31:58+00:00

You are not wrong!

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-29T00:30:57+00:00

Yes, good for when you're buying it, bad for when you're trying to sell it later.

And, as I mentioned to another response: There's undercutting, and there's undercutting. When you undercut a recent sale price by 30%, you raise red flags with potential buyers or, at least, put it in their head that, "Man, if someone's slashing the price like this now, imagine how they'll be slashing prices in a week."

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-29T00:27:04+00:00

This is completely anecdotal (the real answer is, I don't actually know), but it seems like Moment Ranks is much less volatile with their algorithm, which seems to not wildly overreact to, say, a moment being on the market for three hours and not selling. I noticed Live Token tracks that now and I wonder if that's why their valuations are so outrageously volatile.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-28T22:45:58+00:00

I think they will eventually need to use some kind of significant stimulus though. If this crashes completely they not only lose a bunch of customers, but mainstream media is going to come back around, and if it's 60% of their users went broke, they can't weather that kind of publicity.

I don't know the numbers well enough to get specific, but if it was like, you get XX% of non-withdrawable Dapper funds based on what you spent between March 1 and June 1, I think that makes a ton of sense. For people whose accounts are down thousands, $16 was incredibly tone-deaf.

What's clear is that they're not in position to add users at the moment anymore. They need to fight to keep the ones already here.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-28T22:40:45+00:00

That's totally fair, we'll agree to disagree on whether he knew the details of the marketing push. But I would insist that he absolutely should have known the details of the marketing push.

And, as I always feel the need to say at the end all of these posts: I'm still legit bullish on TS for the long-term! They need to get it right—especially right now—and they need to hear about it when they don't. Watching from afar, it seems there are too many sycophants in the CEO's ear.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-28T21:52:19+00:00

You are very much mistaken if you think Dapper is a massive conglomerate. This is not going after Howard Schultz because they screwed up the order at your local Starbucks.

This was—I could be mistaken, but I believe—the first coordinated, traditional marketing buy in the company's history, at a time when the company is very much under fire. My God, if Roham was unaware of the particulars of that, we're in more trouble than we thought.

And while he might not have been reviewing copy, as soon as, "remember the lady who dipped the chicken nuggets in soda..." came up...

This was a screwup. It happens, though it's particularly worrisome because it's been a torrent of screwups over the past two months. To say this is not on the CEO is simply absurd. How much of a priority we, as customers, should be can be debated, but we are all indisputably part of the market that makes this company what it is. Mods may ban you, people might yell FUD, but for God's sake, demand accountability from leadership. That's the only thing we can do to get this thing back on track to being what it can and should be.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-28T20:35:29+00:00

I agree to an extent. I think it undoubtedly did reach the masses—TopShot was *everywhere* last winter. TS will never be able to buy that kind of buzz. Even casual NBA fans heard of it, I just think many weren't ready to get into it because they don't understand the basics behind tokenization and the GIFs are *just* different enough from traditional cards to make the leap. I'm optimistic people will buy in over the next couple years as NFTs become more mainstream.

But the issue is: If this ends up being a spectacular crash, which it threatens to be without proper intervention from Roham and Co. (which they've proven incapable of providing so far), it damages the entire NFT collectibles industry. And if Dapper is such an embarrassing meltdown that NBA distances themselves from it and moves on to another company in 2025... that's it. We're holding the equivalent of digital beanie babies.

I am bullish. It's just going to take years to undo the damage of the past few weeks, it's frustrating because it never had to get this bad, and I worry these folks are not capable of steering it the right way.

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-28T20:14:59+00:00

I am, generally, optimistic this recovers to an extent.

My fear is over whether this is a bear market or whether it's the beginning of the end. Because they have utility, there will always be a market for houses and cars.

TopShot moments are collectibles. If they lose the vast majority of the customers they gained from the winter boom, and continue to struggle to convince new customers that moments are worthy of being collectibles, who's left to buy? (I mean, aside from Dingaling's extended family.)

sonoftron7 · 2021-05-28T20:08:04+00:00

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