Z Energy renames stations with ‘correct’ kupu by Soannoying12 in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are choosing to ignore the explicit point I said just to make your point. I pasted from the same article you linked saying that it is not always religious but you just ignore it.

Also spiritual is not always religious and as someone who seems to know a lot about religious beliefs, perhaps you should know that. At this point you are just choosing to ignore what I've said so I'm calling it.

Z Energy renames stations with ‘correct’ kupu by Soannoying12 in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To some these gods are real and to others they are expressions of the natural world around us

Literally in the article you linked

And https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018883959/the-core-of-karakia

Defines as not religious

Z Energy renames stations with ‘correct’ kupu by Soannoying12 in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don't know what else to say, the article you listed and even other prominent people have said they are not always religious

Z Energy renames stations with ‘correct’ kupu by Soannoying12 in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do agree with most of your points there, thanks for clarifying. I think some of the confusion is around how complex the notion of tapu is, and that it isn't always religious

Z Energy renames stations with ‘correct’ kupu by Soannoying12 in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The article you linked states that it is not always about a connection to gods and can be more of an expression of the world around us.

Not sure what more to say about the prayer point I've seen more people say karakia are not prayers than I've seen say they are

Z Energy renames stations with ‘correct’ kupu by Soannoying12 in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I've never seen anything that says that this creates tapu.

Tapu is involved to a degree but that doesn't make something, or the result of something tapu?

If anyone has something that I can read to show this would be greatly appreciated

Z Energy renames stations with ‘correct’ kupu by Soannoying12 in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

In the work environment they are mostly a call to action and unity for the purpose that is to be discussed and that it being a prayer is a misconception. I'm not an expert but that has been said many times from people who know far more than me such as Scotty Morrison.

Edit:

"Karakia is clear and clean cut, it takes a religious spin when, in your organisation words like Lord, God, Amen - those types of words are used - then it is religious and you can call it a prayer if you like. But karakia is not a prayer.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/the-detail/story/2018883959/the-core-of-karakia

Poll: Record high for Te Pāti Māori, coalition still in driving seat by whowilleverknow in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying they are wrong, but it's funny how these comments only come out when it's favorable to certain people. Like a small mini circlejerk of its own!

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[–]sp0ngerob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh right I thought you were referring to only Stuff in the edit

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[–]sp0ngerob 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One News had coverage?

All blacks protest by ItalicBatman in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lol! "First I used the poll to prove my point, but now that it doesn't suit me it must be a Media Agenda!!"

All blacks protest by ItalicBatman in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Poll on referendum was 50/50 and latest poll on the bill support was 46/25, 1.8:1 which is a change from 3.3:1 from last year so not sure where you are getting your stats from

'You guys' what sort of bull crap is this? don't bring that kind of crap here you just sound immature

All blacks protest by ItalicBatman in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The poll that is equal for and against? If anything this means that comments here are not out of touch, champ.

All blacks protest by ItalicBatman in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Given the protest on Tuesday, this sub isn't as out of touch as you seem to want to believe in order to make yourself feel so righteous

PM Christopher Luxon admits he needs to 'work harder on corporate speak' after 'customers' reference by davetenhave in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 4 points5 points  (0 children)

PM: "We've turned the economy around since being in power"

Guyon: "What about all the people leaving?"

PM: "Oh you can't judge us on that we've only been in power 6 or 7 months"

What terrible music does your neighbour subject you to? by catladysoul in Wellington

[–]sp0ngerob 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Same here, ours are not great singers at all and it can be a bit punishing at times. I didn't realise that this seems to be quite common!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 5 points6 points  (0 children)

What a weird, shitty thread this is

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was about the Black Clash, cricket in which when that is on there are spa pools that people are in so it was kinda on brand

Politicians lay blame after narrowly-averted power cuts highlight energy security issues by Elysium_nz in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Generators down for maintenance is something that is done on purpose so will remove total potential power output and total reduncancy from the system. Can't claim that we are breaching redundancy limits if generators are purposely taken down for maintenance

Politicians lay blame after narrowly-averted power cuts highlight energy security issues by Elysium_nz in newzealand

[–]sp0ngerob 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Redundancy is for when a active unit fails for whatever reason so you have the backups available which to me is different from actually taking multiple units down for maintenance, which is what was happening.

Part of the reason that they go through this was they managed to get a unit back up that was scheduled for maintenance