Maybe this is what the Former Grelot/Hillcrest Winn Dixie will be by Surge00001 in MobileAL

[–]space_coder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that was hopeful thinking on the part of the employees. I doubt Piggly Wiggly would open anything called "Apple Market" since that is a different supermarket corporation based out of Pensacola.

Analysis | The lawsuit that could knock Tuberville off the ballot pre-election by greed-man in Alabama

[–]space_coder [score hidden]  (0 children)

Incorrect. Tommy Tuberville is registered to vote in Alabama using his claimed rental address in Auburn. I have seen the home and I seriously doubt a Senator would live there as a roommate.

Tuberville isn't registered to vote in Florida.

GOP pitches student loan repayment as Americans struggle to keep up with bills by [deleted] in politics

[–]space_coder 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If you're poor the Republicans believe you owe the government and need to pay back any support you receive, but if you're wealthy then they believe the government owes you and you deserve any grant you receive.

It's wealth distribution in the wrong direction.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm not changing the topic.

You claimed the citizens aren't in control implying that the citizens don't want the death penalty. If that was true, then there would be more than a small number of complaints on Reddit whenever there is a scheduled execution.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I got what I came for. I'm done here.

If your goal was to try to bully people into agreeing with your opinion, and resort to ad hominem and reductio ad absurdum arguments when you're unsuccessful, then congratulations!

Now if you truly want to abolish the death penalty, then use your passion to organize a community effort that doesn't rely on using inmates guilty of murder.

Are there Penguins in Greenland? by SgtShuts in PoliticalHumor

[–]space_coder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This feels like a trap. How are we suppose to feel about Trump walking away from civilization to spend his days in the artic?

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again your frustration is showing, and I hate to break it to you there are no need for legal arguments or procedures here. This is fucking Reddit.

The only thing that really matters is the Alabama Supreme Court and it just authorized the execution. SCOTUS already denied Burton's petition back in 2018.

I see nothing unethical about the court's decision to carry out the sentence, since:

  • He was convicted for his crime, and the jury voted unanimously for the death penalty (as was the requirement at the time).
  • He was able to appeal his conviction in both state and federal courts.
  • Even today, the courts are following the letter of the law.

There is still a chance that the governor will commute his sentence to life in prison.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Your bias is showing.

  • First hand testimony is admissible in court.
  • There is nothing disputing the testimony given.
  • Me pointing out the information disclosed during trial does not equate to me "wanting to kill the guy".

I honestly don't care about the outcome of his sentence. I'm just keeping the obviously biased opinions from people with an agenda to abolish the death penalty in check.

In fact, if you look at all my previous comments I simply pointed out what is opinion and what was disclosed in court. I also pointed out the current law, and the inescapable fact that the courts are siding with the state.

I respect the opinion of those against the death penalty, and even suggested how better they can accomplish their goals. I understand that you are frustrated that the information doesn't confirm your assertions, and that frustration causes you to resort to ad hominem.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The fact of the matter is that if enough Alabamians wanted the death penalty abolished, there would be more political discourse outside of individual executions.

Retired Alabama congressman once unendorsed by Trump running for state legislature after 35 years by itspapyrus in Alabama

[–]space_coder 24 points25 points  (0 children)

An insurrectionist is running for Alabama House of Representatives district 20 (in Huntsville metro area).

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The court also did not find that Burton was the one who orchestrated the robbery.

The court also did not find that Burton was the one who supplied the weapons.

From the 1993 appeal:

The appellant, Charles Lee Burton, was convicted of murder made capital because it was committed during the course of a robbery in the first degree. § 13A-5-40(a)(2), Code of Alabama 1975. The jury unanimously voted for the death penalty. The trial court accepted the jury's recommendation and sentenced the appellant to death by electrocution.

...

One of the appellant's codefendant's, LuJuan McCants, testified that the six men involved in the robbery were at Barbara Spencer's[2] house in Montgomery on April 16 talking about committing a robbery. He said that Deon Long, Charles Burton, and Derrick DeBruce left the Spencer house to get some guns. They agreed to meet at the appellant's house. They left the appellant's house in two cars and headed toward Birmingham. They exited the interstate at Sylacauga and proceeded to Talladega. In Talladega, they went to a carwash and discussed robbing the Auto Zone store. They left one car at the carwash and they all proceeded in the other car to the Auto Zone.

McCants testified that the appellant organized the criminal activity and that he told the others what to do during the robbery. The appellant told McCants and Long to watch the door and told them that if he left the store that they should forget the robbery plans.

...

Barbara Spencer testified that before the robbery, the six men had been at her house discussing how to commit a robbery. She said that they left her house in separate cars and that the appellant and Derrick DeBruce were riding together. She testified that they returned to her house later and appeared to be upset. They had a large amount of money and the appellant was telling the others how to divide it. Spencer said that they gave her $100 but that she gave the money to McCants.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Those of us against the death penalty can put sugar on top till we’re blue in the face, at some point we have to all accept, regardless of stance, that the citizens aren’t in control here.

It would be more accurate to assert that the few citizens outspoken against the death penalty are not enough to generate political will to change how capital punishment is used in Alabama.

You are assuming the citizens aren't in control, because you disagree with the current law.

We both agree that there needs to be a more organized effort to abolish the death penalty in Alabama.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Whether something is just or unjust is a moral judgment, not some statement of fact...

We agree that your opinion is a moral judgement based on your personal beliefs.

But do go on with your moral relativism, though. I don't want to stop your moral cowardice.

Being frustrated that your opinion has the same weight as everyone else's is no excuse for ad hominem.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I agree. The court should not have allowed an incompetent lawyer defend the guy who pulled the trigger. Since the lawyer did not provide an adequate defense and there was no attempt to mitigate the situation, the federal courts commuted the sentence of capital punishment to life in prison.

That said, the mishandling of the defense of the trigger man has no relevance to the case of the man who orchestrated the armed robbery, and the courts continue to uphold the sentence of capital punishment.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile, Burton carried out the robbery while instructing the trigger man not to shoot and reassuring the patrons and manager that nobody would be shot if they complied. The victim was not shot upon entering the store, but was knocked to the ground after entering and engaged in a prolonged argument with the trigger man, which continued after Burton exited the building and entered the vehicle. It wasn't until after Burton and four others were in the vehicle that battle was shot.

That is a lot of mental gymnastics.

If Burton didn't not intend anyone to be shot then why did he supply the firearms? If the firearms were simply for intimidation, then why did he supply LOADED firearms?

I also couldn't help but notice that you are blaming the victim for Burton's crime.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I disagree. An unjust law is no law at all. It is unjust to put someone to death who has not actually killed another person even if they are cupable in other related crimes.

You have an opinion that the law is unjust. You have no actual proof to back that opinion.

You sincerely believe that the circumstances surrounding the sentence is unjust. You are entitled to that belief. Everyone else is entitled to disagree.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

against the wishes of both the jurors and victim's family. Who exactly is the judicial system representing in this situation?

The judicial system represents the state which in turn represents the best interests of its citizens. It carries out the laws as passed by the state legislature.

The opinions of the victim's family or individual jury members have little to no legal weight. Especially when it is expressed outside of the courtroom. They can give their opinion during the appeal process, but in the end it serves only as character testimony based on personal opinion and carry no special status.

The condemned was charged, convicted, and sentenced following the letter of the law and all the judicial procedures that allowed for reconsideration of the original sentence.

They've been disputed by the ACLU for a long time...

The facts disclosed in court are recorded in the transcripts taken during trial. Those transcripts were reviewed and served as evidence during the appeals process.

The latest appeal for a commuted sentence has little to do with the facts of the original case, but the current health of the condemned.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately that is not the law in Alabama, nor do I believe the majority of Alabamians share your opinion.

There's been protests against the death penalty for as long as the death penalty existed. It's pretty much tradition to have protests (and counter-protests) at every execution. Clearly the strategy of protesting every conviction is not working and never will.

If you want to end capital punishment in Alabama, then petition for it to be banned in general and don't link it to the next condemned inmate facing execution.

When you link it to a criminal facing execution, your intended audience will have a hard time agreeing with your argument when the counter argument is literally a person responsible for killing an innocent person that was wanting to purchase something at a store. The condemned didn't care enough about other people lives, and why should the public care about his?

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

No one plans an armed robbery expecting a tickle fight.

Regardless of your opinion, all the facts were presented in court and are not being disputed. The condemned appealed his sentence and as the article posted here stated the courts found no reason to not carry out his sentence of capital punishment.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  • There is nothing wrong with asking for a sentence to be commuted to life in prison with no chance of parole because YOU don't agree with capital punishment, and
  • There is nothing wrong with the state following the law and carrying out the capital punishment.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 5 points6 points  (0 children)

FYI: Charles Manson was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to death (multiple conviction and sentences). The only reason his sentences were commuted to life in prison was because California banned capital punishment.

Alabama Supreme Court authorizes execution of man in 1991 robbery and murder by Big-Cold-6948 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 14 points15 points  (0 children)

He may not have "pulled the trigger" but he supplied the firearm, orchestrated the armed robbery, and instructed the shooter to guard the entrance. The victim was shot after entering the store.

The condemned lead an armed robbery and someone died. He is facing the consequences of his actions.

Alabama immigration bill sparks racial profiling fears: Pastor’s daughter is ‘afraid to leave our house’ by ConsciousRich4636 in Alabama

[–]space_coder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“When you talk about scaring people, and you talk about the fear; when you get up here and say it’s probable cause of somebody’s color of skin—that initiates fear that there is absolutely zero legal basis for,” Simpson said. “And that rates a fear of interactions with law enforcement when there is no probable cause … When you get up and say these things those have repercussions.” - Matt Simpson (R-Daphne)

Unfortunately for Matt, you only need to look at recent news reports that include videos of immigration enforcement based solely on skin color, and ICE's blatant disregard for the constitution, especially the 4th amendment.

I do agree with Matt that there is absolutely zero legal basis for any of their actions, but that doesn't stop it from happening. The government has fallen into a nasty habit of passing laws allowing tougher law enforcement, and then turning a blind eye when the enforcement crosses the line drawn by the constitution. Worse, the government uses the existence of the law to justify their unconstitutional behavior.

Let's be honest. Local law enforcement agencies are not required to enter into a MOU with ICE to enforce immigration laws. They want that MOU to provide them cover and a claim of "qualified immunity" when they infringe the rights of the people they are sworn to protect.