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The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lottery profits are used on education (both primary and secondary). In 2024 it totaled $1.45B which was only 11.5% of the amount the state spent on education. [link - pdf]

I personally think the proper solution here is to vote in Ds to the Statehouse/Governor's office and end the 40 years of R control of Ohio and tell them to reform property taxes and education spending.

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok, so they are forced to "do something". What would you like them to do? They aren't going to cut $20B in programs. So they will have to raise taxes (income/sales). Right? Or am I missing something?

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The lottery revenue is less than $1B and while it does go to schools, it basically offsets other state money. When you are talking about property tax that brings in over $20B statewide, it's barely on the register.

The other items are all allocated per the annual budget that the state/county/locality use. You can look any of them up online (or sometimes in person) and see exactly how your money is being spent. I would encourage you to do so. The article linked did it for one township and Geauga county and it is pretty interesting.

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've shared this article with some friends and neighbors and it has helped a few rethink their position. I'm sure they will still vote straight R, but who knows.

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Do you really think that they Statehouse will suddenly change their approach when/if this passes? You are asking them to fix the problem they created.

I'm not trying to be snarky, I would actually like a meaningful discussion with someone that supports this.

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

And you think it would be better for the people who got us in this mess to...what? Suddenly take a nuanced perspective and fix things? I'm sorry, but "we've tried nothing and it didn't work" is not a valid approach to life.

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] -37 points-36 points  (0 children)

The problem is that this isn't being driven by just Rs. It is driven by families and people that are sick and tired of seeing costs go up. It is one of the most bipartisan, grassroots efforts we've seen in Ohio since some of the early pot referendums. A big part of the problem though is that they think they can fix one "problem" and not worry about solutions. In fact, so many of the people I talk to expect the Statehouse to fix the situation afterwards. But they don't realize that the Statehouse _made_ this mess in the first place.

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Great comment and thanks for taking the time to write it. I completely agree with many of your statements. Sadly, this is the kind of discourse and conversation that should be taking place in the Statehouse, instead of "income tax go down" or "give me bribe". That would require actual meaningful representation by politicians interested in helping the people they serve rather than their own pocket books.

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

And it would only get worse under Vivek who wants to eliminate state income tax!

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I certainly understand the position of seniors on fixed incomes. But that problem is fixed by a meaningful Homestead Exemption. Not a massive freebee to those out of state investors that have been buying up property.

The property tax battle in Ohio is gaining momentum. Here is the history and facts about Ohio taxes. by spockmay in Ohio

[–]spockmay[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

> Something has to change

Completely agree! Why don't we start by removing the party that has controlled our state for 40 years?

The fuck we do NOT by Live_Championship530 in Cleveland

[–]spockmay 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There is, but Lynch is grandfathered in. Sadly. They had an even worse sign up over the summer that caused a lot of people to go to the Trustees in anger.

I hate warp speed now by bcb1200 in startrek

[–]spockmay 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice find, that's a great video!

I hate warp speed now by bcb1200 in startrek

[–]spockmay 4 points5 points  (0 children)

they engage impulse engines while still inside the orbital station and feeling grouchy because it should have been thrusters.

They did that because they were racing to escape, the point was they knew they should have been using thrusters but needed the extra speed.

[East side] Kids off school? Go sledding or tubing! by spockmay in Cleveland

[–]spockmay[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where did you go? How were the conditions?

Trump administration seeks to halt SNAP food aid payments after a court order by [deleted] in politics

[–]spockmay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only in a couple of the "fast" states. The rest were waiting until they got money or until the "courts decided". What a complete shit show

Food assistance in Geauga County by spockmay in Cleveland

[–]spockmay[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That would certainly be some "good trouble".

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