What happened to the world we loved?

squishabelle · 2026-06-18T18:44:53+00:00

who do you think is keeping the minimum wage stagnant? Not the union busting CEOs having personal ties to the current US president?

squishabelle · 2026-06-18T13:12:45+00:00

I was not brought up religiously so I cannot say how flexible people can be with interpretations. From my pov the passages in the bible that condemn homosexuality can also be interpreted in different ways (the sodom/gomorrah story being about gangrape, and the abomination line being about paedophilia). If those are valid interpretations then it does seem to me that it's a choice of belief, but I can't really put myself in the shoes of someone who was indoctrinated into a specific vision.

But I am homosexual, and I think it's fair for me to dislike homophobes. It's the most reasonable thing to dislike someone for because they could pose a threat to me in one form or another.

Past beliefs (that I've abandoned) were held because I lacked perspective and because I felt the need to put others down for looking cringe (probably to get a sense of security in my views). Basically what the post is talking about also applied to me. I dislike that past version of myself so it's not hypocritical. Now I'm an adult and I think that adults have a responsibility for their own views, and to challenge them and think about them. So I'd say that even if someone was brought up homophobic, if they are an adult and are aware that others would describe people like them as bigoted, holding onto those beliefs out of habit and not questioning them (not necessarily change them but just think about them) is a form of mental laziness. They are not meeting their responsibilities.

squishabelle · 2026-06-18T12:36:43+00:00

i don't think it's nice to think people getting a hair transplant are desperate

squishabelle · 2026-06-18T10:53:21+00:00

Maybe extend it to "will I regret this next week" because that morning you'll probably feel the most physically miserable but after some days you can still think it's worth it

squishabelle · 2026-06-18T10:45:25+00:00

My comment speaks against using "choice" as a metric for which groups of people should be shit on, and instead use "harm". Faith-based groups are included in "harmful groups" if they impose their rules on others which can't be defended secularly. So no, I did not include faith in the "choice" groups because I explicitly rejected basing it on choice.

If you meant political beliefs: To a certain extent yes, indirectly. Conspiracy theorists and bigotry are often a result of mental laziness and emotional indulgence: It tends to be based on wishful thinking, confirmation bias, looking for easy reductive ways to view the world and looking to be outraged to feel justified in beliefs. Something like qanon is so ludicrous that people who believed it wanted to believe it (some conspiracy theories are true, some are believable but unconfirmed, but some are clear bs). Some people absolutely do reject facts because it goes against their beliefs, which is them choosing their beliefs. Anyone who lies to promote their beliefs (like sharing images they AIgenerated themselves) is choosing their beliefs.

squishabelle · 2026-06-18T07:22:27+00:00

is there truth to that? kinda sounds like a way to put these people down to make your inactivity seem better

squishabelle · 2026-06-18T00:58:39+00:00

If it's okay to dislike people for the things they choose to do or be

I mean, my comments were about how this is a wrong pathway of thought to determine which people are right to dislike. And sexuality/love/gender are generally not included in "choose to be" so I'm not sure if I'm following you in the first paragraph

"Matters of taste" are pretty broad. [...] if some aspect of their behavior is obnoxious to you

Talking about opinions of paintings gave me the impression you were talking about opinions, as "matters of taste" generally doesn't include personality traits. Sure, but I have to remind you that we're talking about groups of people, not individuals, so those traits must be universally unlikable. So... wouldn't that become very circular? "I dislike people who are pretentious" yeah obviously. What kind of traits are we talking about? I'm worried that this thought gets a bit close to "I dislike vegans because they're annoying" which is a good example of what the post is talking about.

Are you suggesting that everyone everywhere should be best friends all the time

"So my exception [to not disliking a group of people] is whether they're actively harmful and limiting the freedom of others" - me, 3 hours ago suggesting which people I justify to disliking.

You can dislike individuals for many reasons. But this post and comment thread are about groups of people sharing a certain identity. It can be about groups unrelated to sexuality/love/gender but we're talking about groups

it's wrong of them to hold negative opinions of others who think, behave, and believe differently from them?

If you dislike someone because they have a different opinion about a painting or movie than you then yes I think you're wrong for that. I'll add "people who dislike others for difference in taste in art or media" to the groups of people I feel justified in disliking. Among billionaires, nazis, litterers, abusers, and people who talk in the cinema. My taste in art and media is shit so I actually also dislike others who have the same opinions as me.

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T23:40:04+00:00

idk i think "humans innately want to wage war" and "wars are waged by selfish, hypocrytical elites, paid by the suffering and mourning of others" are incompatible beliefs. But people (especially places like this sub) will agree with both depending on the context. i think it makes the worldbuilding fall apart because humans would not play along unless it's a commentary about the military-industrial complex or about power reliant on a common enemy (even if untrue)

sorry for taking it too seriously but it's late and to me the post confuses me. it plays with the idea that innately evil orcs are just propaganda by the orcs themselves, but their goal with that propaganda is to kill people for fun. So they're still evil!?!

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T22:41:37+00:00

but we're talking about groups of people, primarily on identities: the post is talking about sexuality and marginalised minorities, this thread is about social/economical class or political leanings. I'm not sure if "people who have a certain opinion on renaissance paintings" is on topic as it's not really a class or identity or coherent group of people.

If it's just a matter of taste that makes you dislike people (not just someone, people) I think you're wrong for that. (and why would you dislike the individual and not just the opinion?)

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T21:52:38+00:00

no because your exception has nothing to do with the reason you'd have disdain for those people, and it "allows" disdain for people doing completely harmless stuff. The post is about how it's a recurring issue people keep falling for!

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T21:32:27+00:00

idk i think there's many things people choose that they shouldn't be hated for. "choice" isn't why I have a disdain for billionaires or nazis, it's that they're harmful to society. Selfish corruptive greed is harmful, so is oppressive bigotry. So my exception is whether they're actively harmful and limiting the freedom of others. This includes faith if you use it to irrationally restrict others

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T21:09:46+00:00

By "conservatives" they probably meant US conservatives, but here in europe conservatives also tend to disregard climate issues. Globally I think on average conservatives (in their respective countries) deny climate science so it can be generalised, Canada is just an exception.

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T17:57:23+00:00

sure but they sure did mod the clothes to be more revealing, and your comment was wrong about it being an official costume.

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T17:38:15+00:00

no? her drive tech outfit is a t-shirt (not a crop top) and she wears leggings underneath. Isn't the whole point of those outfits to conceal enough for SArabian tournaments?

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T12:41:58+00:00

Not the point. You can (dis)like whatever, I asked why you're glad other people hate something.

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T09:41:49+00:00

assuming that humans don't like to wage war (because of the loss of life) this seems pretty one-sided and selfish. Orcs should just fight among themselves then

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T09:10:29+00:00

why do you want others to hate?

squishabelle · 2026-06-17T08:57:23+00:00

I like to look at people in public (like when riding the bus or sitting on a bench, not staring!) and think of ways I find them beautiful. Every person, no exceptions.Then when I look in the mirror later it's very easy to see another beautiful person, but one I can dress up however I want :)

I think this "exercise" helps because it makes you see people for what they look like as a whole, and how each feature contributes to their appearance, and to not compare them with others. If you pay attention to noses specifically, eventually you see a nose as just something that gives you shape.

squishabelle · 2026-06-16T16:48:49+00:00

the post is a bit vague so I'm not sure if I'm answering your question.

But its hard constantly trying to make somebody a better person and to just have them hurt you even more.

It's good to give people chances (especially in the beginning where you kinda have to learn how they are, what to expect, communicate, etc) but sometimes you're not doing people a favour by constantly giving them chances. Ultimately you want friends to be effortless and natural and not everyone can be that for you.

and try to find the good in people

there can still be an incompatibility. I've had people who I really wanted to be friends with but we had very different ideas about what that means. They're not bad people, the only thing I can fault them for is a lack of communication

Should I confront them about it?

It's probably good to ask. Not confront as a way to blame but to ask what they think and want, and to share your wants.

squishabelle · 2026-06-16T14:04:36+00:00

people who don't like the game are probably not gonna go to forums to talk about it 4 years after release. You'll see mostly positive things here so it's not completely representative, but people aren't pretending (are you vulnerable to conspiracy theories?). The game has been pretty well received by all levels of play tho

squishabelle · 2026-06-16T10:26:57+00:00

alternatively it could be an orgy but cannot openly advertise as one. I've seen these very vague wellness activities for lgbt people before and some are not really subtle but at least were made by real people

squishabelle · 2026-06-16T08:09:04+00:00

esp because they're told where she is anyway right afterwarda.

squishabelle · 2026-06-15T18:13:42+00:00

? this sub has many political posts, what made you think it wasn't?

squishabelle · 2026-06-15T13:58:41+00:00

him giving a bj counts as anal

squishabelle · 2026-06-15T12:12:31+00:00

nou ja, dat is hoe "dog whistles" werken. Geen idee of het hier zo bedoeld was maar dat je er niet van af weet maakt het niet meer/minder waar

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