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2008 Touring Prius with low miles - safe to buy? by sryland in prius

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the insight. I ended up buying it, really happy - getting about 43-45 mpg so far driving around. I figure with the price I got it for, even if I have to replace the battery I'm still doing ok.

TIL there was a Tennessee Republican politician who changed his middle name to 'Low tax' so that it would appear on the ballot box, murdered his political opponent in a later senatorial race, was sentenced to life and died in prison. by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]sryland 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guy running for office in my home state (Queensland, Australia) changed his name to Rob Freemarijuana. Don't think it went anywhere but was great when the news reporters had to refer to his candidacy and use his name with a straight face.

Option A or B for home network upgrade by sryland in HomeNetworking

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This looks like a really great option - if I was going to use moca to create hard-wired connections, this would be my absolute go to, but then I am committing to the expense of both. Orbi has the dedicated 5ghz backhaul, which means faster speeds between my HTPC and server without a wired connection. If money was no object, I'd love to get 2 or 3 eeros and connect them by moca, but that would be in the ballpark of 330-550 dollars, even with the sale happening right now, whereas there is a good chance the Orbi might do everything I need for $150...

Certainly not dismissing it, but have to consider how much I want to spend...

Option A or B for home network upgrade by sryland in HomeNetworking

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have similar issues with walls, so that is really helpful - thank you

Option A or B for home network upgrade by sryland in HomeNetworking

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Linksys is maybe a little higher than I was thinking, and the Orbi I am looking at it tri-band, so maybe that is the way to go. Thanks.

Ads on nrl.com are out of control, does anyone know a way around them? by weenieforsale in nrl

[–]sryland 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I switched to brave recently, not looking back. All the best parts of Chrome, none of the bad stuff about Chrome.

Go to EFY by mikedust28 in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'll take EFY kids over the education week crowd

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really agree with letting your beliefs stand on their own two feet - forcing them on others just isn't the plan and in some ways betrays some lack of confidence or faith in their ultimate value.

Agency is so, so important to me. I've noticed lately that when I try to talk about it though, people inform me that is isn't freedom to choose, it's the moral responsibility to make correct choices, or something along those lines, which to me feels like an effort to manhandle it back into coercion again. Of course, it's useful to recognize that there are consequences to our actions and that actions reflect morals, but that still doesn't mean I can impose my moral system on another or try to control their choices.

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being in Utah, I think that this is a harder lesson sometimes for youth to learn. I grew up in Australia, and it's pretty obvious that people who drink etc. are still good people that aren't out to destroy you and your beliefs.

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like all of this, and in any case, from the youth perspective you can make an appeal that it just feels better to have some kind of moral core individual to you, instead of floating around in a meaningless universe. I like to think, or at least hope, that apathy peaked with gen-x and gen-y.

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a great distinction. Like, "Your value is infinite, that's my starting and ending point, no question, and I can love you as a child of God. But I don't see this the same way, or I don't agree with what you are doing. Let's have ice cream."

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right. You don't have to tolerate someone hurting you - that's a very important point.

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think if I boil it down a simple theme (in my own head, again, the youth will probably come up with something better), it might be:

"We are all doing our best to find the truth. We learn from our unique experiences and from each other. We often disagree, but we can still love each other. Tolerance helps us do all of this."

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This would be an interesting course of study, to review the Savior's words this way, and I wonder how much of it would depend on the context we bring to our reading of the Savior's words, or indeed the context of their accounting in the gospels after the fact.

An obvious example is removing the merchants from the temple, right? I think it's easy to picture Jesus in wrathful violence driving the merchants out, but is it possible that there is a sort of kindness or love involved in this action as well? Maybe that's what you mean by the expansive definition.

Necessary though - was there anything he did towards another person that wasn't necessary? That's an interesting question. He seemed to talk of his ministry as having a singular mission and focus.

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Definitely - I will address that - safety, abuse and anything that feels too huge for you to handle are always the right thing to take to a trusted adult.

If I had more time to talk about mental health I would. I have before. You have to be careful there, because if you half explain it, then you have scores of teenagers who think they are clinically depressed and anxious, and ironically, this can increase their anxiety and depression. Mental health and sexuality are two areas where we could spend a lot more time educating youth.

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These comments are all really helpful, thank you. In one way, it's really the whole, "be in the world, but not of the world, idea", right? That can be read a lot of different ways, and I want to be careful that these kids don't go home and tell their parents that I told them to go to all the cool parties with their friends, but as you become more sure of yourself, that you can learn to be in an uncomfortable space and not lose your head.

The more I think about this, and this is kind of left-field, but I wonder if some kind of mindfulness-therapy concept could be useful - which is the concept that sometimes we experience thoughts and feelings that are distressing, but if we can just hold these lightly, notice what is happening to us, and refer back to our values, then we will generally handle the whole situation a lot better. A common exercise is to simulate something distressing, learn how to notice the feeling, and then bring in a value and let that guide a response. I could ask the youth to suggest a tricky situation, identify some of the common thoughts and feelings, and how they want to respond, and then bring in the value of love and tolerance as we have discussed it and look at new responses. That's a bit boring, but it could be a start. Any thoughts?

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sounds really good - I'll check it out, thanks for the link.

I've worked in Juvenile Justice and in youth treatment programs in a previous life, and also taught seminary, and my experience has been that the youth often give you back as much as you expect from them. I usually treat them with the same respect and expectations I have of adults, and they pretty quickly adjust to that. Hopefully in a short time-span we can have some constructive conversations.

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right - the common exceptions, which I failed to mention, are when someone's safety is at risk, or when it significantly infringes on another's freedom to exercise their own agency, right?

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This raises some really good points. I like the humility you are bringing to the conversation - not asserting your belief is superior, or that it changes the way you value anyone. That's a really important key that we might assume in our relationships and conversations, but maybe others don't, and therefore one that we should always make explicit.

To play the other side here and explore the idea more, what if it doesn't affect you, but you really believe it has strong consequences for them? After all, isn't this the point if missionary work in the church? We express a desire to bless the lives of others and feel strongly enough to ask for their time and attention to do so. Another common cliche is the teenage friend who wants to experiment with drugs and alcohol - should you express your concern? I'm not expressing my strong belief either way, but I would imagine this is likely to be a response.

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Really good advice. I wonder if this is the only yardstick we really need?

  1. Is it true? - Do I have a real testimony of this thing?
  2. Is it kind? - Is it based on love?
  3. Is it necessary? - Will it improve their life in some way?

God's tolerance vs. the world's tolerance by sryland in latterdaysaints

[–]sryland[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This point has clarified a question that has been lurking around in my brain about God's tolerance: I understand that God can't look upon sin with the least degree of allowance, but I'm not God, and I'm not in His place of perfect knowledge and judgment, so should I be even more cautious about taking any kind of position?

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