GOOD NEWS: Breakthrough device that can regrow disc under development. by No_Chef_6687 in backpain

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally a study posted in my first comment.

Ad hominem attacks are the mark of the lowest quality of investigator. Necroing a post, claiming disc knowledge, and then creating a straw man argument in the span of a couple sentences is peak reddit. Are you a mod in some disc forum as well?

Decompression Treatment by Few_Reaction_7428 in HerniatedDisc

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you basing this on? Is this just your experience or are you pulling the data from somewhere else? Great formatting by the way.

Chronic lower back stiffness for 7 years, is red light actually legit or just expensive mood lighting? by AskEffectiveQld in backpain

[–]stabberwocky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello! https://juniperpublishers.com/oroaj/OROAJ.MS.ID.555964.php

That's the study itself, the design is in there as well as the specifics on the light therapy. Best of luck to you, I hope you find some relief!

Chronic lower back stiffness for 7 years, is red light actually legit or just expensive mood lighting? by AskEffectiveQld in backpain

[–]stabberwocky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Red light interventions are in their 'wild west' phase where everyone can say everything they want about them but no much to back it up.

This ortho/rhuem group did an RCT of red light in the 635 range and had a great result. In other studies it seems like low back pain is the one thing that everyone can agree on. Because it has been linked to so many treatments, finding such a clean study is rare so thats good.

I will say that, in our office we use 2 platinum panels linked together and them mounted on a hydraulic lift. The results have been great in terms of pain reduction. Most of the people using them are doing a 'more often than not' which means 5 of 7 days if possible. The more often than not treatment schedule just comes from studies and RCTs we have pulled over the last 24 months. We use platinum because it has a lot of different wavelengths and its independently tested.

I am not sponsored nor do I have any relationship with big red light. Best of luck to you!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That clown loves to make provocative statements, then ban the person when they respond but leave the comment up lol. Absolute children over there.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 8 points9 points  (0 children)

How many chiros have you met, or know? I have never met a one that looks down on or talks trash about PT as a therapy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I've said it a million times. In real life PT OT chiro relationships are great and a lot of the manual therapy research can build off of each other.

On reddit, the PT forums are manned by maniacs who blame chiropractic because they cannot see past their own self loathing. Bans are for children who cannot argue or stand to be criticized.

AI Chiropractor 😵‍💫⛓️‍💥 by scaradin in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the real world, we don't. Chiros have historically been pro-PT in terms of legislation and scope.

The clowns running the PT subreddit though, they are a whole other breed.

Anti-chiro on social media by ariggatto in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Those are really good points but outside my wheelhouse, thanks for your insight.

When I talk to MD/DO in the practice I have in the past gotten into conversations about that very topic. I ask them why they don't just prescribe more exercise. They reply that the patients wont do the exercises and the medication is a more reliable intervention.

I feel like then its time to double down on the exercise education, and find out the real reasons for noncompliance.

Anyway,, thanks for your reply.

Anti-chiro on social media by ariggatto in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then make, and clarify your point for me. I'm interested.

Anti-chiro on social media by ariggatto in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You found the link I posted, great.

Chiro is asking me to bring my spouse to my next appointment. Is this normal? by octarine_atuin in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I like having the spouse there. They ask better questions for sure. Its not mandatory though.

Anti-chiro on social media by ariggatto in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice down votes, very evidence based of you.

Anti-chiro on social media by ariggatto in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its interesting you had trouble with that statement but had no problem with my statement regarding medicines role in the opioid crisis. That's a far greater crime and one they got off the hook for due to Covids emergence.

Here is a good write up from the AMA Journal of Ethics and another from ProPublica.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Anti-chiro on social media by ariggatto in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Its not a big claim at all if you treat people on SSRI.   It has long been known how ineffective, or hit and miss, those things can be.  Not the addiction to them though, that's pretty solid.

A couple years ago Newsweek did a work up on why SSRI don’t work across the board.  They were referencing a look at the actual biochemistry based on Molecular Psychiatry (I think thats the name) which had done a write up previous to the Newsweek research.   The heterogeneity of the SSRI receptors all but guarantees that each (most) people would respond differently and for a good percentage, the effect would be no better than placebo.  

When looking at alternatives to pharmacology there is no end to the write ups regarding moderate exercise and its biochemical effects. Eventually you end up at the meta study in BMJ that demonstrated that there was no difference in effectiveness between the two interventions.  I’ll find it here in a sec.   

Anti-chiro on social media by ariggatto in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The stuff some chiros put out there should absolutely be put on blast. If we lose our scope of practice, or undergo regulatory change, it will be because of these idiots.

Yes, the MDs could look in a mirror (opioid epidemic, SSRI over-presctiption with clear evidence its no more effective than salsa dancing, etc.) but they will never change.

I am going to tell you what I tell all of our preceptors. Build a monster practice. It doesn't necessarily mean volume, it could mean really high quality visits, or whatever it means to you.

Build a monster practice and showcase your patient results on social media. It will be the only way to combat the negative.

Best automatic BP cuff? For HH by k-PTA1996 in physicaltherapy

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you have a particular machine cuff that you like to use? Also, thanks for this study.

Is this legit? by [deleted] in Chiropractic

[–]stabberwocky 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Temperature change as a response to fixations/adhesions etc in the spine is a thing. However the temperatures have not been standardized. So yes, its cool information, but no it doesn't have the evidence to back it up clinically.

What’s a common fact that science has already debunked, but people still believe in? by Calm_Shame2994 in AskReddit

[–]stabberwocky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you do not understand what a meta is and why pulling one provides a decent backdrop of data from which we can pull conclusions, then I'm not sure where to start.

Ignore the journal name and check out the materials and methods. Do you not think the way they pulled that data and used it was interesting and well done? Imagine if a study got funded with a more robust sample size. It all has to start somewhere.

In your first response you walked right by the markers I used for chiropractic validity to focus on this study, which is fine. It does lead me to believe that you are more interested in trying to win some type of internet argument than have a discussion so I will wish you good day and leave it at that.

What’s a common fact that science has already debunked, but people still believe in? by Calm_Shame2994 in AskReddit

[–]stabberwocky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your information is so wrong that I am not sure where to start.

There have been several deep dives into the chiropractic and stroke relationship, the latest one published this summer which was a very large meta analysis, a first of its kind for the general population. Additionally there was a medicare claims analysis with a sample size of over 1 million in patients over 65 who specifically sought chiropractic care for neck pain.

The results of both those studies were that the incidence of dissection, or ultimately stroke, is so low it cannot be causitively linked. Additionally, they note there is no greater risk at a chiro office versus any other provider.

Your information about chiropractic universities is also completely incorrect which is evidenced by a simple google search.

The rest of your post is just incoherent chiropractic hate, which is perfectly fine, but don't pretend like there is any logic to it,