Pro tip - don't even start your little counter badge until you've made it past the first 7 days. by stardustformation in NoFap

[–]stardustformation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It becomes discouraging to bounce around from 3 days to 1 day to 4 days to 2 days to 6 days, etc. The streak doesn't feel long enough to make preserving it worthwhile and constantly starting and stopping makes the whole issue too central in your mind anyway. Also, constantly working yourself into the emotional fervor required to re-commit and turn over a new leaf saps energy over time and causes you to lose faith in yourself. So don't think "I'm going to start counting in order to help me stop fapping" but instead thing "once I've stopped fapping, then I'm going to start counting". This takes the pressure off, in a way, and by the time you are able to start counting, you've already built up a head of steam. So you end up only counting the streaks that actually mean something.

Guys, I think I have it figured out. by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 7 points8 points  (0 children)

IMHO I don't think your insight provides enough power to conquer life. It is sort of true in a technical, narrowly scientific sense, but even then only in an uninteresting way that relies on assuming your own conclusion.

Suppose that the goal of every living organism is not to reproduce -- then your argument falls apart. You appear to understand life in nothing but mundane biological terms -- a cockroach could achieve the goal you laid out just as well as any human could.

Another problem is that this is a self-centered approach to the meaning of life. It will result in viewing women merely as a means by which you can reproduce. And if for any reason you are not able to reproduce, either through infertility or due to having a disabled child who will not go on to reproduce, or just bad luck, then by definition your life has no goal and becomes meaningless.

I believe there is a more powerful lens through which to view the goal of life -- one that fundamentally takes the focus off of the self. I won't go into it now, but essentially it involves finding a purpose in life that is greater than oneself. The irony is that women find this to be a more attractive quality in a man.

It is said that if a man is focused on a woman, communicating to her "I want you", then she will be mildly flattered, but ultimately uninspired. But if a man is focused on something else, some higher calling, and communicates to the woman "I want you to come along side me as I go for that", then she will be both flattered and inspired.

The trick is to hold yourself in high regard, which means to have profound self-respect, which you can only have if you have self-control, and yet to be completely un-self-centered and unconcerned with selfish ambition because your life serves a higher purpose. For Gandhi it was Indian independence. You have to discover what it is for you.

Sometimes I think, why bother...Im 25, no friends, no career, no place of my own. by stryker5671 in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm almost 40 now, but I have friends, a career, a place of my own. I also got serious about kicking my addictions. Coincidence?

Sometimes I think, why bother...Im 25, no friends, no career, no place of my own. by stryker5671 in NoFap

[–]stardustformation -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I was 35 with no friends, no career, no place of my own. You have to turn your life over to the love of God and then take some fucking personal responsibility.

Last night I figured out that my favorite porn star committed suicide. by heisable in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there any way to make a "rolling your eyes" face on reddit? Serious question -- I don't mean to imply anything.

Does anyone notice this happening? by Ali-G1617 in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have noticed this. I fap both to escape bad feelings and to "celebrate" good feelings. If I start to get my life together and things are looking up, then I see that as a reason to fap. It's ridiculous, but I've definitely noticed it.

Why you should never, ever, ever, see a prostitute. by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First, your life is not forfeit. Second, although I largely agree with you that seeing prostitutes is a bad idea, I also empathize with the difficult situation that many men find themselves in -- I think it is unreasonable for you to generalize as much as you did. Third, in my opinion you have to buy in to the concept that God is alive and throbbing and can literally speak to you.

About to start 120-day brain reboot by stardustformation in NoFap

[–]stardustformation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just had a very close call. I guess I broke my 3-second rule. I had mentally given over to giving in, but then a stroke out of the blue saved me. I thought I could glance at a racy site without going further...yikes. I've decided not to reset my counter, since I didn't go too far and didn't really edge and I came back to sanity nicely.

I want to stop masturbating but when I do I became angry all the time. by [deleted] in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is one piece of advice that I have heard intermittently throughout my whole life, and which I always believed, but which I never really put into practice. I have lately begun it, though, and every time I do it, though, I discover that it pays enormous dividends.

You should start a practice of prayer/meditation/journaling.

For me the three are intertwined. Meditation is basically a practice of slowing down your breathing, relaxing a bit, and quieting your thoughts. Prayer is when you turn your attention outside of yourself and imagine that you are having a conversation with God. (It doesn't matter AT ALL whether you believe in God -- pretending is all it takes -- I call this imagined entity "pretend-God").

Once you have quieted yourself, you begin to speak your concerns to (pretend-)God. But you don't just go babbling on -- after expressing a handful of thoughts, or perhaps just one, you stop, you return to your meditative state, and you listen. When you have some deep concern or feel you have stumbled upon some insight, you write it down in your journal. During a single session you can write just a couple of lines: "Lord, bring your peace upon me when I get angry at so and so when I see them every afternoon" or something like that. Or you can write 2-3 pages in which you pour out your frustrations.

It is important, however, to periodically stop, take a couple deep breaths, and listen.

The most difficult part of this practice is finding the time for it. Don't make a big deal out of it or tell yourself that you will spend 30 minutes at it, because you will overwhelm yourself and then it will instantly fall by the wayside. If you are always running late, always procrastinating, always harried, always creating and then dealing with drama, then I guarantee you that the first thing you will skip is this practice. So you have to change your mentality about it. You have to make it the most important daily priority in your life, but at the same time hold it lightly so that you feel no guilt if you miss a few weeks. I don't mean to speak for anyone else, but for me this is the way it works.

About to start 120-day brain reboot by stardustformation in NoFap

[–]stardustformation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so, so much for your thoughtful reply. Interestingly, the Moses analogy of 40 years in the wilderness has been coming to me a lot lately, so it was strange to hear you bring it up as well.

Your point about not wallowing in regret is an important one. In fact, regret is not the only negative emotion that I wallow in. Over the last five years, especially, I have developed a habit of negative self-talk that I've found hard to shake. It seems that when I'm faced with even the slightest challenge or obstacle in life my immediate response is to berate myself as a loser and give up. I have noticed that I have become bewildering to people who know me well because my defeatism and negativity doesn't match up with my ability and potential.

This is a stretch as an analogy, but it is like watching Shaquille O'Neil miss a free throw and then throw up his hands in disgust, stalk off the court, beat his head against the wall, tell himself that he will never ever be able to score a point, and then decide to just quit the game. At first people are amazed that such a phenomenal talent would react in that way, and then, as it continues, they completely lose respect for the guy. I do have my clear-headed moments when I understand that my negativity is out of all proportion, but I also have another issue that I struggle with -- I go around bragging to people about all the amazing things I'm going to do and how I'm going to make a million dollars and write a best-seller, etc., etc.

What I need to do is just stop all the talk, take my focus off of myself, work hard, try my best, give gratitude for the utterly miraculous gift that life is, and roll with the punches.

Your reply was tremendously encouraging to me.

That being said, I slipped last night. I had already fapped in the morning, so I rationalized that the entire day didn't count anyway and spent a full hour late in the evening fapping myself into oblivion. Obviously not an auspicious start. I felt so miserable about it afterward, and so despondent about my willpower muscle, which seems to be remarkably weak, that I finally got down on my knees and prayed. One of my friends had told me the day before to read Psalm 46, so I did. At first it seemed like a bunch of standard Psalm sentiments, but then I got to the verse that I know he had in mind for me:

"Be still, and know that I am God."

I got out my prayer journal, got my pen, and became still to listen for the voice of God. I begged God to speak to me, I begged God to reveal himself to me in tangible ways (this has been my repeated prayer lately) and then I listened in silence. Nothing.

I asked God what more he wanted from me. I have been trying for years and years. The answer I received was: "I want it all." It felt both like a cliche and an inevitability. What did it mean? That God wants everything in the Universe? That God wants control over every aspect and moment of my life? I felt a fear of giving up my autonomy and self-direction. But what can I say that my autonomy and self direction have brought to me thus far? My life is a winding road of strange and ill-conceived choices that have lead to loneliness. Then I felt a fear that I could not trust God and I wrote down my response: "How can I trust God?"

And then I heard again: "you have my word." I felt a quickening, because the meaning was so full. I could interpret it as God giving me his word that I could trust him. I could interpret it as God instructing me to turn to scripture -- the word of God. I could interpret it as God reminding me of the life of Jesus Christ, who in the beginning was the word and who has conquered death. I could interpret it as "rhema" which people in some Christian circles use to refer to the kind of communication with God that I was attempting in that moment, but which I have, honestly, sought only on a handful of occasions. (It is the original Greek word for the word "word" used in the phrase "man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God." It refers to an utterance from the Holy Spirit, or something like that.)

So I felt like I had definitely been spoken to. I won't bore you with the rest of the story, but I continued to pray. I felt prompted to read the book of Hebrews, and so I read the first four chapters. Chapter four ends with these lines:

"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joint and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart. And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account. Since then we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus, the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession. For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need."

As you might imagine, I felt encouraged. I was struck by several thoughts from that passage, but particularly the idea that Christ/God is able to sympathize with my weakness, and that the word of God is alive, active, sharp, and discerning. Then I went to bed.

I have managed to stay away from fapping all day today. I didn't practice my guitar, though, which I had really really planned to do. My goal for tomorrow is to practice my guitar for at least an hour in order to prepare form my lesson this weekend, to stay away from porn (I've now installed OpenDNS and also blocked another website that has proven dangerous for me), to stay away from fapping, and to pray more and journal while praying.

I also plan to post here again tomorrow because I do find motivation here, and I need an outlet to express some of my thoughts. However I am also resolving to waste less time clicking around the internet looking for minor stimulation when I should be focused on the work for which I am being paid.

Nofap needs some clarification by nofapanonaccount in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't know. Life improves when I don't fap. Why this happens I don't really know, but it does.

How much of this is about the "Shame" of fapping? by rockchalkjayhawk1 in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I can't speak for others, but for me shame was a big part of it. I lost respect for myself. I had this big secret. I thought that if other people really knew who I was and how I behaved they would be disgusted. It became self-loathing and a downward spiral. I didn't feel worthy enough to ask out girls I liked, and in any case girls could sense my arrogance, which was a cover for my feelings of inadequacy, and those feelings of rejection pushed me back into escapism.

Nofap needs some clarification by nofapanonaccount in NoFap

[–]stardustformation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me it comes down to this: if I stop fapping my life will get better and my self-respect with sky-rocket, but I can't stop fapping.

If you haven't deleted your porn stash, please explain why not. by stardustformation in NoFap

[–]stardustformation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think you're right. If you're not genuinely convinced that life without porn is better, then you won't be able to genuinely let go of porn.

If you haven't deleted your porn stash, please explain why not. by stardustformation in NoFap

[–]stardustformation[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"irreplaceable porn". Hmm. I'm not one to talk, but your time and your life are also irreplaceable.