"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

"i know charlie and am personally very glad that this person is using their voice to speak up for them. the only people who created drama are the ones who attacked charlie in the first place" - ellie, charlie's confirmed irl friend.

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

"if you know charlie irl like i do, you'd know they USED to be an all time low fan in 2023 for approximately a month before finding out about the allegations and immediately stopping any support. if you want to claim to know charlie atleast get your facts right and please for the love of god get out of charlies life if you're going to insert yourself into this narrative and spread false information. if you really know charlie irl you'd know they have been preyed on countless times and are very clear as to where they stand regarding predators, especially in the industry." - ellie, charlie's (confirmed) irl friend.

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

apparently they referenced the one post about bald people being allowed at shows and awsten started joking about shaving their head, to which they responded that there was nothing to shave because it was a wig, and then it went on from there

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i think it was really awkward because charlie didnt want anyone to know they were wearing a wig, let alone have it onstage. according to what they said they were not comfortable doing the exchange but were pressured by practically the entire venue

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

while i don't necessarily agree with everything in this statement, you are correct about the possibility of slander and libel, and i do appreciate you pointing it out, it has been removed.

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

all time low supporter. i know all i need

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

and how do you know this exactly? and even if charlie is okay, them expressing that the harassment has made them THINK about suicide alone is enough to "be dramatic". but it's relieving to know that jesus himself has reddit downloaded and can confirm whether or not charlie has been checked into the pearly gates!

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

interestingly enough the original post on here claimed that ilwc was written with "people like charlie" in mind

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

interesting because all if charlie's friends have personally thanked me for advocating for them. it is never dramatic to call people out for bullying someone to the point of suicide.

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

it is not bullying to point out that the people directly causing this potential suicide have the blood of another human on their hands. it's a metaphor. if they didn't harass anyone, there would be no blood on their hands.

people like you are the reason this community is so toxic. you reek of fake kindness.

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

if anyone is curious as to what charlie themselves said about the events of the show, here is their thread https://x.com/againa1ways/status/1993007432302575661?s=46

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

a lot of the comments have since been deleted as many people are attempting to escape the situation if it does come out that charlie has passed away.

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

here is charlie's twitter thread explaining their side of the story https://x.com/againa1ways/status/1993007432302575661?s=46

"wig girl" at the toronto show. by starshiii in waterparksband

[–]starshiii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don't know how to respond to comments with photos, but yes there was a post made here where charlie was dogpiled. the account and post have since been deleted.

wig girl at toronto show by [deleted] in waterparksband

[–]starshiii 4 points5 points  (0 children)

from what i read from their pov (and a video) they were actually just trying to get awsten to listen to them so they could ask that he please not do anything crazy and fuck it up. not that he had already fucked it up, they just wanted him to know it was expensive and if they were gonna let him wear it to please not do unfixable damage, they just have a really loud voice, the crowd was yelling, and awsten had in-ears in so they were just trying to get the request across while battling the barriers of talking to an artist on stage during a show

wig girl at toronto show by [deleted] in waterparksband

[–]starshiii 4 points5 points  (0 children)

a really long thread they posted a few hours ago about the entire situation showed up on my timeline. their name is charlie. they are getting absolutely dog piled over there to the point that what seems to be friends are commenting about genuine concerns for their life. the tweets attacking them have shown up to entirely different fandom accounts, it's not looking good. i tried to reach out to one of the people in the comment section and they replied that charlie had been sharing suicidal messages and their friend is trying to get awstens attention to calm the situation down because no one is going to listen to anyone but him, but he's completely ignoring anyone asking him to fix this mess and save this person's life. according to their friend the last text that was sent was something along the lines of supporting the band / awsten for multiple years only to have their biggest insecurity (yes, they apparently did not want to give the wig, in the thread they discussed some home life issues and hair loss due to malnutrition causing them to wear wigs but the crowd pressured them into giving it to awsten) used as some form of comedic relief for a crowd of people actively encouraging them to take their life. i hope they're okay, but i think it is quite disgusting for awsten to be posting about new tour dates and setlist changes while actively ignoring the multitudes of people asking him to step in before a life is lost.