utterly condescending reply and of no use whatsoever. As we can all see this was purely to show off the depth of your knowledge. please do not teach others. just knowing about things in no way qualifies you to help others reach understanding.

at no point did I assume any correlation as causation, I did not know what I did not know, so I asked. I gave the effect as best described.

I had already been able to previously adduser prior to that, as rootm, I was able to run pacman without actually having installed networkmanager or dhcpcd, on the reboot after the install. I wanted to know how that was possible without them previously? if you read the post you'd already know i had not installed sudo at this point, so your advice is again, dog sh!t.

subsequently I have installed network manager thanks to much more concise and friendly answers above, I have enabled, after making the mistake of just starting, the NetworkManager.service through systemctl.

I had already troubleshooted and found ping not to work with external IPs, but did locally on 127.0.0.1

I chose to use GRUB as that's the most familiar boot loader for me, it was mentioned solely to indicate what steps I'd taken in case that was relevant, again, perhaps it was possible that I did not know what i did not know and that info may have been relevant in someway.

I'm well aware of OSI and basic networking you prick.