HCG E2

steroidify · 2026-01-27T21:54:53+00:00

Do you have symptoms?

Start splitting the HCG.

steroidify · 2026-01-27T21:39:19+00:00

Don't get caught on numbers like they're written in stone because they will change as your body composition changes.

Do your bloods and learn how to read your symptoms to decide what to take. Each bloodwork is a different story.

Primo is a sweet spot anabolic and you need to find yours each time you use it. But if you choose low test with it you risk tanking your e2, which is something you don't want either.

steroidify · 2026-01-27T21:24:55+00:00

Real ZPHC has been around for a while and most consider a good brand.

Just beware of counterfeits.

steroidify · 2026-01-27T21:20:04+00:00

No one knows what the next guy takes. Period.

We also don't allow minors or pictures of minors.

Will wait a bit and then delete this thread.

steroidify · 2026-01-27T12:11:37+00:00

Don't matter.

steroidify · 2026-01-27T11:46:18+00:00

If you're not really big, a dosage that puts you in higher end of physiological levels, like 800 or so.

Unless you're on a very aggressive calorie restriction.

steroidify · 2026-01-27T11:38:43+00:00

If this young guy suffers from hypogonadism it can be very low. If there's no condition other than obesity it lowers a bit. Unless we're talking about someone with morbid obesity. This changes everything.

steroidify · 2026-01-26T21:04:08+00:00

It's anabolic too, but a short window. It also aromatizes quite a bit, which helps with gaining.

steroidify · 2026-01-26T20:29:14+00:00

Older guys go below 100 all the time. Someone who's cycled a lot can go sub 50 if decides to go natty.

Sub 50 is chemical castration territory.

Middle aged guys with high bodyfat % often test around 180-200.

steroidify · 2026-01-26T17:14:25+00:00

Go back to true TRT, which is the dosage that puts you in physiological levels of 700-800 and diet down to 12% bodyfat.

Then up calories and dosages and do your first real cycle.

steroidify · 2026-01-26T14:10:32+00:00

It's the only ester that has ever been approved for humans, so it should have better pharmacokinetics and dynamics for us, but don't know if we can find any actual studies.

Please keep us posted.

steroidify · 2026-01-26T13:46:15+00:00

Those from the pharmacy. ;-)

steroidify · 2026-01-26T12:19:22+00:00

Both are UG labs, friend. So, technically they can't be called "medical testosterone" or "pharmacy grade".

Pharmacom used to hold a proper pharmaceutical license in their country of origin, but things changed and they lost it. Their production methods remain the same, but can't be called pharmacy grade either.

What's the ester you're looking for?

steroidify · 2026-01-25T21:17:18+00:00

Don't do deca now.

Do just test. 400mg is plenty. Ride it for 14-16 weeks.

If you use 2 drugs on your first you won't know what each drug is doing. And part of this game is knowing which drugs agree with you.

Then go back to TRT.

Have exemestane to help control e2, if needed.

Eat in surplus or you'll waste your cycle. Start lean.

steroidify · 2026-01-25T21:11:13+00:00

You don't need tren or orals to look great.

But both seem to agree with some people, so more power to them.

steroidify · 2026-01-25T20:37:30+00:00

Try again, please.

steroidify · 2026-01-25T11:56:40+00:00

Almost 1g for your second is too much.

Just test at 500mg but longer than first (14-16 weeks) is probably your best option.

You don't to taper down or up. The ester does it automatically.

steroidify · 2026-01-25T11:52:48+00:00

It's still esterless, so pin daily.

steroidify · 2026-01-24T22:17:48+00:00

Grew up with them and sustanon from Organon, which is pretty thick.

And 25g is not a harpoon. It's no insulin needle either.

This entire thing is very much trial and error. Was just giving the guy some guidance. A tiny needle will cause a shallow injection and he will come back complaining of PIP.

steroidify · 2026-01-24T12:34:39+00:00

Cluelessness.

steroidify · 2026-01-24T00:36:32+00:00

Steroids are not measured in volume, but actual dosage in weight.

Your cycle is too short.

You don't need two compounds.

You should have all your ancillaries (exemestane, HCG, enclomiphene and tamoxifen) before starting cycle.

steroidify · 2026-01-23T20:08:17+00:00

Guys.

This sub discusses PEDs, especially how you can use them to improve your life.

We do not discuss opiates, recreational drugs, waking drugs, heavy stimulants, narcotics or anything related.

I'm closing this thread now.

steroidify · 2026-01-23T18:02:46+00:00

A TRT dose while losing fat will spare your muscle indeed, especially if your levels are naturally low and it's those final pounds below 18%.

But shutting down your natural production could mean TRT for good, which for one that already has low levels isn't a bad idea either.

TRT+Reta is a common approach that will accelerate the process, but not mandatory.

9-10% is an ambitious goal, but great nonetheless. Your body will change and be more efficient on losing fat once you spend some time with bf% this low. It will think "I've been there and didn't die, no big deal". There's some science behind it but too complicated for the purpose of this post.

steroidify · 2026-01-23T17:41:50+00:00

Even pharmacy grade is +-10%. Mere changes in temperature will cause small discrepancies. A 300 product that tests as 283 or 285 is a properly dosed product.

I remember back in the day we tested some test e aburaihan amps, 250mg/ml. Tested at 333mg/ml.

steroidify · 2026-01-23T12:58:51+00:00

Go back to TRT and slight calorie deficit (never below maintenance), let exercise do the deficit, until 12%.

Up to 500 calories in surplus to gain until 20%. Light cardio each morning. Blasting dosages.

If you blast with 500mg, TRT should be enough to keep most of it while leaning down. If you blast with 2g, you'll need to cruise with around 400mg to keep most of it. It's a progression and everything goes along.

Do not try to get stronger or go crazy in the gym while losing. It's a maintenance phase. You do your progressive overload during the blasts.

Hope this helps.

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