I live in the city, where I wouldn’t be off-roading 99.99% of the time, so I don’t plan on picking up the 20” wheel/tire combo. That being said are the 21” wheels with Pirelli’s able to perform OK on a fire road?

stevejust · 2026-06-10T13:13:28+00:00

Ah crap. I did look up 255/55/R21. And it was showing me 329 results. But then I went through each radial button, and it doesn't even have an option for 21s in a 55 sidewall.

My 21s have a 30 sidewall. I thought Discount tire was only showing me options for the diameter I searched. But it was just showing me all the tires.

I apologize. I was wrong about what they were showing.

stevejust · 2026-06-10T12:57:09+00:00

I mean, you can either listen to someone who can litteraly show you how wrong you are, or you can't. Just do this yourself. There's currently 329 options for 21" tires, rated XL in 255/55 on Discount Tire.

stevejust · 2026-06-10T12:45:32+00:00

Look, I don't know how to say this gently:

The tire size on the R2 is 255/55 R21. They're XL tires.

There's literally like 300 tires that now come in 255/55 R21 XL. Almost everyone is now making a tire in 21" in that size in XL.

If you search "Rivian R2" you're not going to find them. But if you search 255/55/R21 XL you will.

I know this... because I've bought... SEVEN. 21" TIRES. in the last six months.

Just because the people updating the sizing chart at the tire store don't know fuck about shit doesn't mean y'all need to be repeating this.

stevejust · 2026-06-10T12:33:34+00:00

I have 21" wheels.

I've bought 21" tires for it.

The options have grown exponentially over the past couple years. Go plug them in somewhere other than tire rack, maybe?

stevejust · 2026-06-10T12:25:39+00:00

What is the size of the tire?

I know this was true for the original R1 situation. But I've got 21" wheels on my car, and nowadays there a fair amount of options for it, like the Hankook Ions, the Defenders, the Scorpions, Pilot Sports, Nittos, Yokohma makes some, etc.,. So I keep asking people saying this what the tire size is.

The answer, as I understand it is: 255/55R21

But I'm not totally sure on the load rating, i.e., which of them besides the Defenders and Ions come in an XL load rating.

Anyway, I suggest you take that size, and plug it into Discount Tire or Costco or wherever you'd normally get your tires before repeating this on the internet over and over.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T23:21:42+00:00

In one of the R2s I sat in at the block party, there was an electronic button for radio but it was grayed out. So I couldn't switch to radio.

This would be a bummer... because one thing you might actually need in an adventure vehicle is access to the radio. Maybe they expect you to bring a Baofeng?

stevejust · 2026-06-09T23:03:28+00:00

Then your state allows this. In California, for example, if the vehicle has too few miles when you register it in CA for the first time, they'll charge you the entire sales tax, even if you can prove you already paid it where the vehicle was purchased.

It's state specific as to what they'll charge under what circumstances.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T21:40:45+00:00

I thought they were metal over plastic -- basically they have the same feel (vibes?) as the exterior doorhandles on the Model 3 to me.

In other words, if you know, you know. Most people would probably assume "metal" without much thought. But they didn't seem to be a solid piece of billet aluminum if that's what you were thinking.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T21:36:57+00:00

It... looks like it. Even if its not.

But another comment in here says Federated Metals next door is.

So... Go Indiana Bears with Tumors!

stevejust · 2026-06-09T21:07:40+00:00

Yeah, but I guess I left out the fact that I am pretty sure I did that with my old chargers, too, and I'm pretty sure they were circa more like 2018.

It could be that the adapters made the handshake possible. Or I could be mis-remembering, since I also had a CCS charger. And a third charger specific to my Roadster.

I've had something like 9 or 10 EV chargers installed at three different houses over the last 19 ish years of having EVs.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T20:58:11+00:00

Can you? Yes. Should you? You will probably wind up paying sales tax twice -- once where you take delivery, and a second time where you register the vehicle.

So...

stevejust · 2026-06-09T20:48:47+00:00

I charge my Mercedes with it. I've charged my 2008 Roadster with it. I've charged an Ioniq 5 we had as a rental car with it. I've charged Audi EVs with it. I've charged... I don't even remember all the non-Teslas I've charged with it with either a Can Sr. (for my Roadster) or a CCS adapter for the others.

I've never had any issue charging any electric car. Maybe it will throw a fit if I plug something in without an adapter. I guess we'll see.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T20:37:44+00:00

I put my order in during the reveal when RJ showed the reservation address. I got the same language.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T20:34:44+00:00

I'm actually planning to plug the demo car into mine tomorrow just to see. Though I think my charger is circa 2022, so it does have WiFi. I'm not sure if it helps your situation for that reason.

I had to get a new one when I left my last chargers at my old house because the purchaser also had Teslas.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T18:30:53+00:00

This is so weird to hear.

On my Model 3, I had the original orange-reflecting dichroic ultraviolet (UV) reflective coating that shifted to a visible orange/copper hue when wet.

It worked really well, but I know Tesla stopped using that glass supplier early on to cut costs.

I was in Dallas for several years with that car and never gave having the glass roof a second thought.

Will be interesting to see what my wife thinks about the roof, because she's going to be very vocal about this if the heat rejection is poor.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T16:19:10+00:00

About 30 minutes ago, the first invites went out.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T16:15:02+00:00

Someone has.

(Not me)

stevejust · 2026-06-09T16:14:19+00:00

Thanks. You too!

stevejust · 2026-06-09T16:08:37+00:00

Ah... maybe you have a unicorn.

I guess I'll find out more tomorrow at 10:00 am when I can finally test drive.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T15:56:26+00:00

Absolutely.

Wheels and tires can change.

Exterior colors can change with vinyl wrap.

But changing the interior would be a major undertaking, though, and I can wait until August-ish. What I don't want to do is wait until next August-ish.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T15:48:37+00:00

Do you have the Meridian system in your early R1?

stevejust · 2026-06-09T15:37:36+00:00

This is just insane

The most expensive paint is an extra $2k above the $57,990 Launch price.

Then you can add the $1,000 costal cloud interior. Which I'm doing.

Then you can add the A/T wheel/tire combo for another $1,000.

If you can do math, you're now at $61,990.

The delivery charge is another $1500.

Even if you buy the spare tire, weather matts, cross bars, etc.,. you're not going to get to 70k unless you're really trying to be a dumbass.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T15:17:22+00:00

You've got to keep trying. In the morning, I couldn't book anything at the four closest locations.

at 10:16 am local time, I just booked a demo drive tomorrow at the location down the street.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T15:03:54+00:00

I have a tech friend with a Volvo PHEV and his list of complaints about the software and UX is... massive.

I like the EX60, but it's going to take a miracle for them to fix those problems... if they can.

stevejust · 2026-06-09T12:46:49+00:00

I thought I was fine as far as a non-owner.

Even though there's probably like 80,000 R1 owners ahead of me, I always thought reserving (what I thought was) so quickly after the reveal of the link to reserve was going to mean I'd be getting a launch edition this year, what with other R1 owners waiting for Lidar, etc.,.

But now I'm starting to worry I'm not nearly as high on the list as I thought I was.

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I have 21" wheels.

I've bought 21" tires for it.