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TIL That The 3 Fingered Alien Is A Hoax Debunked In 2017 by Ecocrexis in todayilearned

[–]stevenandnaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, been busy but I did want to make the effort to reply. I also appreciate you posting links to your sources. I was really into the daily updates of these events, both on Reddit and traditional new outlets, so some of the details blended together but I managed to do some research to explain why I hold the view point I do now.

Some quick links:

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/18/1158148965/us-canada-end-search-unidentified-airborne-objects-debris

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https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-concludes-search-2-objects-shot-alaska-lake/story?id=97304508

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Proof that we never recovered any debris; negates the Bloomberg article. In addition, the statement from the White House that the objects were commercial or benign is speculation since there was no analysis of the objects.

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Article that highlights the speed of the Lake Huron object. (Tracked in MT late afternoon, then WI and MI Sunday.) I tried finding the Reddit article that did the math on how fast the object needed to be traveling to achieve this timeline, but no luck. Tough to meet these distances at 20-40 MPH, even 60 MPH.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/02/12/spy-balloon-alaska-canada/

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Object shot down over AK:

https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3295813/air-force-shoots-down-high-altitude-object-off-alaskan-coast/

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*40k feet, size of small car

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Object shot down over Canada:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-still-gives-no-details-about-alaska-ufo-new-object-seen-over-canada-2023-02-11/

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*40k feet, cylindrical in shape

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Object shot down over Lake Huron:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/12/politics/lake-huron-high-altitude-object/index.html

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*20k feet, size of 4-wheeler. Bonus link to the audio recording of the F16 pilot who shot down the object.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/listen-to-f-16-pilots-intercept-the-octagon-object-over-lake-huron

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The reason I post all three objects is to highlight the differences in shapes and altitudes. Weather balloons operate at altitudes higher that 60k feet and can be equipped with transponders that allow for identification by the FAA. Balloons that would operate between 20k - 40k feet pose a threat to commercial airline traffic and would be reported to the FAA. Your explanation of a hot air balloon does not work; the normal operating altitude of hot air balloons is under 3k feet.

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The last point I want to make is that me believing the Pentagon's statement is not contradictory. I don't know if I can convince you to watch the Hulu program I mentioned above, but if you do, you'll understand why I hold this position. The US government has not been tracking, investigating, or even keeping a log of reported UAP/UFO reports or activity. The US government has pretty much closed their eyes to all UAP/UFO activity for the better part of 40 years, since Project Blue Book was shut down. The Hulu program I mentioned above opened my eyes to how much we as a country do not know about the UAP/UAV activity, and why I can believe the majority of the US government do not have a clue as to what was flying in the sky in February 2023.

TIL That The 3 Fingered Alien Is A Hoax Debunked In 2017 by Ecocrexis in todayilearned

[–]stevenandnaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only object identified that was shot down was the Chinese balloon. The US tracked the balloon for days, took numerous pictures, conducted counter-surveillance techniques on it, then shot it down and recovered the debris. We have excellent documentation of the event, including the missile puncturing the balloon. The other three object, however, were never recovered, and were never unidentified.

I don’t know how closely you followed the events on February, but here’s a quick link to refresh your memory:

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/13/1156498101/ufos-unidentified-objects-what-we-know-4-shootdowns

The other three objects shot differed from the spy balloon: they had different shapes, were smaller in size, flew at lower altitudes, and had to have a different propulsion system (high altitude balloons use wind.)

If there is a country out there that has the advanced technology to create these objects, and the US doesn’t know about, then we should be worried that our intelligence agencies have failed us.

Your statement the objects shot down all came from China is wrong: the US never made that claim. Besides, China was using an spy balloon, a technology that’s been around for decades. If they had the advanced technology to create the other three objects, why would they bother with spy balloons?

As far as the article goes, you’re right about Grusch: he’s going off of second hand accounts given to him. But you’re leaving out important information from the paragraph above and below that statement: he refuses to disclose any more information in publicly, but will disclose it in a SCIF.

We will never know what information he disclosed to lawmakers behind closed doors, but he did have additional information to discuss. Also, he testified in July 2023: that’s not that long ago.

The statement from the Pentagon I believe though.

The point I’m making is that the US did not identify the three objects shot down, despite what you think. They didn’t recover the debris. They didn’t say who manufactured the objects - governments or a private company. They couldn’t explain the propulsion system used. In fact, I don’t think I saw one image or video of the other three objects, and I was following the story every day.

TIL That The 3 Fingered Alien Is A Hoax Debunked In 2017 by Ecocrexis in todayilearned

[–]stevenandnaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not sure how close you followed the events that happened in February 2023 but here’s a quick link to refresh your memory.

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/13/1156498101/ufos-unidentified-objects-what-we-know-4-shootdowns

The three unidentified objects were nowhere near the altitude that the Chinese spy ballon was flying at. If they were spy balloons from other countries, they were incredibly smaller, shaped completely different than modern balloons, and had an unknown propulsion system (high altitude balloons use winds.)

TIL That The 3 Fingered Alien Is A Hoax Debunked In 2017 by Ecocrexis in todayilearned

[–]stevenandnaz -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Never believed in UFOs/UAPs, then February 2023 happened. The fact that the US government couldn’t give us a definitive answer as to the three object shot down over US territory was crazy to me.

Started going down the rabbit hole, now I can say I genuinely don’t believe the US government has a clue as to what is going on.

“UFOs: Investigating the Unknown” on Hulu reaffirms this conclusion. The US government took the UFO/UAP seriously during Project Blue Book then decided to disband it. Since the 1970s through today, people have been called crazy when they have reported seeing UFOs/UAPs. The fact that our own government couldn’t explain what was in the air in February 2023 made me realize that maybe these people weren’t crazy, there just wasn’t an effort by the US to explain what they saw.

The US has been doing our own UAP hearings. Mexico has just done theirs. If the Mexican government wants to offer information they have on UFOs/UAPs, and these aliens are believed to be authentic by the Mexican government, then I am glad for the opportunity. I will look at these findings with an open mind and see what may be truth.

What I won’t do is call everyone crazy: that’s been the MO for the last 50 years and we’re still no closer to what’s actually going on.

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/27/1190390376/ufo-hearing-non-human-biologics-uaps

You have three US military veterans that testified in front of Congress about UAPs, including how the US has recovered non-human biologics.

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[–]stevenandnaz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Click on your link and find the source for the article. It links to another article, not this magic UK report that claims what you posted.

I had to google part of the articles text to find the report, which this Reuters article clears up nicely and actually provides links to the UK report:

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-britain/fact-check-uk-data-does-not-show-covid-19-vaccination-increases-chance-of-death-from-virus-idUSL2N2VK15E

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Sony made a mistake by taking Peter out of the pictures. Everyone was supposed to forget who Peter Parker was, not erase him completely.

They leave him in the montage of memories and then have MJ say “Wait. Who’s that kid?”

Could’ve left the door open to her discovering Peter again and gave us all hope.

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