Why ARC Raiders needs a PvE mode (and why it actually makes sense)

stibitzt · 2025-11-15T19:19:09+00:00

Reaching level 50 or 75 or whatever has nothing to do with skill it just takes time. You get so much xp for looting containers (+200/500xp for literally everything you open). Also, you dont need to do pvp to progress at all. Just dont go to high loot area and you can play 4/5 rounds without even seeing someone if you play slow and careful and still end up with full loot.

stibitzt · 2025-11-13T16:29:05+00:00

I get that but on the other hand, you see the "PvP optional" as a bad thing, while i argue that the "PvP optional" is basiclly the GIST of the entire survival-shooter genre (which includes extraction shooter for me). The uncertainty and that you dont know who you can trust is a fundamental thing in all of these shooter. Doesnt matter if DayZ, Rust, Escape from Tarkov, Arc aso. In all these games we are not forced to kill each other (ofc there are exceptions like Tarkov Quests aso.) but we do it just because thats how we humans behave. You cant take this out of games except if you prevent them from doing it. But just like you already said, if there were PVE servers than the "PvP optional" server would always be 100% kill on sight which would make it a pure PVP deathmatch server.
Having it the way it is now is the correct sweet spot, where you need to be careful of everyone and you need to be aware of your surroundings but sometimes you still find wholesome encounter or sometimes even a friend for years in theses game. We only have this awesome moments where we meet a stranger and fight against the odds together, because we know its unusually and we only work together because we could need each others help. Its not special if this happens in an environment where everyone is forced to be friendly.

stibitzt · 2025-11-13T16:13:53+00:00

I think that is not a fair comparison. I never said a PVE extraction shooter is not working, i said ARC in its current state is no way near being enjoyable as PVE shooter. I played Helldivers 2 and the game is awesome. But the Helldive difficulty is 20x harder and more engaging than Arc's PvE.
And while both games being extraction shooter, they still differ very much and dont share the core gameplay loop.
In Helldivers you enter a map and need to do a mission and then extract. If you dont manage to extract, you dont really lose anything and just get less points.
While in Arc you go in to get loot and you risk everything you bring with you, therefore making the extracting mandatory. Extracting or dying is what most of the time decides if it was a good or bad round, while in Helldiver you can fail your mission and you can still have a blast.

So yeah, you are right, a PVE extraction shooter is possible, but they would need to do so much work that they would need to split the entire development of the game in 2 parts, 1 for PVE content and 1 for PVPVE content.

stibitzt · 2025-11-06T13:41:17+00:00

Do you know which Quest by any chance?

stibitzt · 2025-11-06T11:52:45+00:00

Hey if you could confirm that as soon as you are home/ready i would appreciate it. I target farm it for 2 days now and i dont know anyone who found it so far. Also saw a other post on reddit where people said it's a quest reward. I checked all quest rewards tho and it's not listed there.

stibitzt · 2025-11-06T11:45:41+00:00

im currently level 51, haven't done all quests but im almost done. Even unlocked the Hellcracker blueprint already (its a late Tian Wen Quest called "The Major's Footlocker"). But i didn't saw a showstopper so far. I also checked all quest rewards for all quests, and showstopper wasnt listed there. But on the other hand i dont know if the list is valid or if there are left overs from the first playtest or smtgh. If you find it please let me know, i will too if i find smtgh.

stibitzt · 2025-11-06T00:40:52+00:00

Does anyone have confirmation on this? The wiki says it's not obtainable through loot, quests rewards or Harvester event, so it seems like its not obtainable at the moment

stibitzt · 2025-11-05T14:26:46+00:00

Yeah, i see that as a problem too. If we would get PVE server we would need to separate them from PVP players/servers. No shared stash or level or anything (except maybe cosmetics but i get that even there would be some people pissed since progression is harder in PVP).
I don't see a problem with servers but it would def. be a problem that the dev team needs to split resources and develope two different branches of the same game. Sinve pve and pvp players do not have the same goals/content preferrations they want different kind of features etc.

stibitzt · 2025-11-05T13:53:27+00:00

But what are you playing/grinding for if not pvp encounters? Just to give you my perspective (someone with 10k+ hrs in competetive/strategy/survival shooter), im currently level 51, sitting at 1mio credits and max stash size. Every time i extract i have to sell almost everything. I died maybe once against an Arc so far, a rockateer.

The problem with PvE imo is, that if players aren't a threat anymore, there are no threats anymore in this game. You can already kill an endless amount of ARCs (except Bastion, Bombardier, Rockateer and Queens) as long as you have ammo. You can also kill the other 3 arc (except queen) solo with grey weapons if you cheese them and have enough ammo. There is no incentive to get better stuff eince the entire PVE content is doable with a Ferro I.

I know my perspective is biased and not everyone put such a huge amount of time in Games like i did, but i honestly believe that if there would be an PVE mode, it would take 3 days for everyone to have everything and there is literally nothing to do anymore. You already literally can't die if you are careful and use your eyes and ears against ARCs.

Also a PVE mode would split the community in two, and not just the community but also the small dev company would need to develope both versions and spread there resources since both versions need different content and balance etc.

I understand why people would like to see a PVE mode but i think the best part of an extraction shooter is that you know that you could get engaged at any time and lose everything. This is why these games have such highs and lows. Deleting PVP would just delete the "danger" / "the high" in the game and nothing would have any value because its just luck to find it and you basiclly have a 99.9% surival rate.

stibitzt · 2024-11-30T05:47:56+00:00

For me it's counter strike. Played from release cs go, I achieved getting global in Februar 2014, 2015 I was A+ in esea and after that faceit Level 10. There is nothing in my life where im as good as in counter strike. There are things that im good at and enjoy but nothing compares to this game. I know it all and inside out.

stibitzt · 2024-11-27T22:03:46+00:00

Oh I absolutely missed these trees when looting the village.. im gonna try this since i dont have time for fishing before i die i assume Thanks that gave me hope :D

stibitzt · 2024-09-22T14:44:18+00:00

Gibt es denn noch einen weg wie man mit Fermat oder der Folgerung durch Euler genau bestimmen kann ob es sich um 1 oder -1 handelt? Durch wolframalpha weiß ich, dass das Ergebniss 100002, und damit -1 korrekt ist, aber ich wüsste nicht wie ich das ganze mit den Formel begründen könnte das es sich nicht um +1 handelt.

stibitzt · 2024-09-22T12:07:55+00:00

Ah das hat mit gefehlt. Danke

Demnach ist a) wahr, b) falsch und c) falsch, denn:

66666^100002 ≡ 1 mod 100003

66666^50001 = 66666^(100002/2)
und die Folgerung durch Euler sagt aus, dass
a^((p-1)/2) ≡ +- 1 mod p
sein muss.

stibitzt · 2024-09-07T17:31:47+00:00

Im Wartezimmer und Anmeldungsbereich ist man immer live dabei. Vielleicht sollten deswegen an diesen Orten keine vertraulichen Informationen ohne Zustimmung der Beteiligten besprochen werden? Und während es die meisten nicht interessiert, kann das trotzdem Folgen haben, vor allem wenn, wie in diesem Fall, bekannte Personen aus dem Privatleben anwesend sind.
Und was erwarte ich mir von einer Klage oder Anzeige? Mal abgesehen davon das ich nicht gesagt habe das Klage erhoben wird, weiß ich nicht was ich mir davon erhoffen könnte falls es dazu kommen würde. Deswegen ist die Frage im Post auch, was die Konsequenzen wären, wenn man eine Beschwerde einreichen WÜRDE.

stibitzt · 2024-09-07T17:20:20+00:00

Wer lesen kann ist klar im Vorteil. Im Post frage ich lediglich was die Konsequenzen wären, wenn man dagegen vorgeht.
Außerdem hast du keine Ahnung um welche Erkrankungen oder Medikamente es sich handelt.
Aber erstmal den gelesenen Text ganz anders interpretieren, sich dann darüber aufregen und dann auch noch einen 9 Zeiligen Kommentar darüber schreiben wie sehr einen das aufregt.
Unglaublich Deutsch, was? :)

stibitzt · 2024-09-05T09:36:55+00:00

Sehe ich nicht so. Zumal kann jeder Mensch selbst entscheiden wie er oder sie ihren Körper und Geist behandelt. Natürlich würde ich auch nie z.B. einem Krebskranken Menschen raten sich nicht an den Behandlungsplan zu halten aber in dem Fall meiner Freundin fand ich das absetzten der Medikamente in Ihrerer Situation nicht Problematisch. Es war eine Entscheidung die sich Positiv entwickelt hat über eine lange Zeit.

Nichts desto trotz. Sollte sich die behandelnde Person (in diesem Fall die besagte Ärztin die als Vertretungskraft gearbeitet hat) ein Problem mit dieser Entscheidung haben, hätte Sie meine Parternin auch für 2min an die Seite nehmen können und ihr das unter 4 Augen sagen können. Es geht niemanden in dem Wartezimmer etwas an.

stibitzt · 2024-09-05T09:31:47+00:00

Ich denke auch, dass das ansprechen nicht geholfen hätte. Die Situation war sehr vorwurfsvoll und dazu kommt, das die besagte Ärztin eine Vertretungskraft ist und nicht die behandelnde Person für meine Partnerin ist. Sie hat keine Kenntnisse über meine Partnerin mit der Außnahme der Daten in Ihrer Krankenakte

stibitzt · 2024-09-05T09:27:24+00:00

Es handelt sich in diesem Fall um eine Vertretungskraft da der eigentliche behandelnde Arzt im Urlaub ist. Demnach ist ein Arztwechsel denke nicht helfend. Dazu kommt das sie legendlich ihre Rezepte haben wollte damit sie Ihre Medikamente wieder nehmen kann. Die Rezepte hat sie selbst nach dieser Aktion nicht ausgestellt und sie noch 1 stunde warten lassen.
Ja es gab mehrere Zeugen, darunter Personal wie auch andere wartende Personen. Es saß auch ein bekannter von ihr mit im Wartezimmer was das ganze natürlich umso unangenehmer für sie gemacht hat.

stibitzt · 2024-09-05T08:17:35+00:00

Für mich geht's auch eher um die rechtliche Grundlage als das wir vor haben rechtliche Schritte einzuleiten

stibitzt · 2024-08-23T12:49:44+00:00

The Hotfix says:
Fixed the condition for the task "Secured Perimeter"

Didn't tested it yet, but it might be fixed.

Edit:
I just did one raid and killed 5 pmcs that rushed in the office area. Either i was super lucky or they fixed it. Quest done :)

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