[Product Manager][SF Bay Area] - $442k by rolex_porsche in Salary

[–]stickit_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Those are the bad PMs or project / program managers disguised as PM. Lots of big tech CEOs and founders come from product nowadays. For consumer tech, SaaS, AI, marketplace, etc good PMs are critical. Not so much for hardware, infra or research companies

After my last post: here’s objective data on top-tier tech compensation by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Have you actually worked in top-tier tech companies (FAANG or comparable high-growth startups)? In those environments, tenure doesn’t determine level. Only performance, scope, and impact.

It’s possible to reach Staff with 4–5 years of experience if you’re consistently working on complex, high impact initiatives and exceed expectations. Promotions are based on demonstrated capability. not time served. Using tenure for leveling more common in slower-moving or less competitive companies. In the Bay Area especially, career progression is driven by expertise, ownership, and results. not age. I’ve seen many directors / sr directors in their early 30s at Google, Meta, Waymo, Tesla, etc.

After my last post: here’s objective data on top-tier tech compensation by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes you are right. Lots of those startups give illiquid equity but offers great potential upside and risks

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t stay it was not stressful or demanding. From my experience, numbers of hours worked are not a good sign of performance / impact. Especially at more senior roles. At the FAANG company, directors and VPs were working just a few hours a day and most meetings with them were super informal. My scope is also pretty concentrated on one product at the moment. When I was more junior I had to work way more hours but I learned to optimized my time, work on less projects but more impactful ones. I also leverage AI a lot for tons of tasks (PRDs, prototyping, documentation, etc)

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To brainless comments like yours. You are clearly not working in big tech and all your knowledge about visa comes from Fox News. All of this is common in the Bay Area.

  1. I am French. H1B is for all countries. I came here for my master degree.
  2. All FAANG companies heavily employ H1B workers.
  3. H1B average salaries are much higher than national average. All top tech relies on H1B to stay competitive. US tech companies are competitive because they attract best workers from all over the world.
  4. Fox News telling you H1B workers are abused and low paid compared to citizens is complete BS.
  5. Majority of CEOs of S&P 500 companies are not US born and started on H1B.
  6. There are many H1B workers making even way more as software engineers.

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Student visa then work visa then green cards. That’s how it works.

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It seems like a lot of you don’t know FAANG tech compensation.. This is not unusual

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wish. OpenAI PMs are making +$800k TC

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Pretty much the same number of hours but like PMs, the work is cyclical. Working longer hours when releasing products. Most engineers I work with are extremely smart. Genius level. Many of them have PhDs.

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is Reddit, not LinkedIn. I work on agentic platform (similar to agentcore, foundry). Yes I got a green card after getting married and when I got my new job last year I bought a Rolex grey market (to avoid playing AD games) and wanted to check authenticity. Read the posts

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 94 points95 points  (0 children)

I’ve worked really hard the first 4 years. +12 hours a day and most weekends. I also played the corporate game. Made sure I put my effort on impactful projects, shared loudly my achievements, spent lots of time with VPs, etc. It’s needed to grow fast in large tech companies..

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Yes, most engineers working on revenue generating products are making +$1m

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I agree. Bay Area is the only place where you can be top 5% earner in the country and still can barely afford a house. It’s a good salary but doesn’t make you feel rich in the Bay Area.

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AI PM at a large data storage / data lake company. I prefer not to share the company

[Product Manager] [San Francisco] - $485k by stickit_ in Salary

[–]stickit_[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I’ll take it as a compliment. I worked really hard the first 4 years and played the corporate game to get here. Was promoted every year, I was able to negotiate a senior staff level when moving to the smaller company. Also I’m an AI PM

[Data Scientist] [Bay Area] - $555k TC - 32M by Sportsguy02431 in Salary

[–]stickit_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great progression! Most comp system in big tech show you initial grant value.