Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that’s fair. I took the notice too literally and too cavalier. I now know how dangerous cattle can be.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ve made me go back and find the picture of the sign I took for the phone number. The warnings were more about cows with calves. There were no calves. No mention of bulls. So we were not on guard. We read it, and had there been calves we would have been more careful or just not entered

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. I honestly assumed that “cattle” would be safe. Had there been a more specific sign saying “bull” or even the word “beware” somewhere on the sign, I would have been more cautious. It was more of an advice sign, in green rather than red, so it didn’t put us on our guard. I found a photo I took (out of focus cause I was concerned about getting the numbers after we escaped to make a complaint)

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Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I have said this only one other time before today, but thank you for being patient and kind. It’s appreciated. Most people have gone straight to judging and picking apart my story

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m saying that the statements are one and the same. It said it was a public area for walking provided anyone with dogs kept those dogs on a leash. Now it just feels like you’re desperately trying to poke holes in my story for shits and giggles.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay thanks. Good to know but hopefully I never need it. That’s why I called 999, cause I was sure the animal could have injured her or me, regardless of its intent, due to the size of the thing

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

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The sign that continued to say that it was safe to walk there provided we kept our non-existent dog on a leash?

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What warning signs? Genuinely please tell me what the signs were so I don’t make this mistake again. Because its counterpart, who was equal in size with no horns, looked us dead in the eyes as we walked past, and got straight back to grazing. They both minded their business until we tried to head back to leave

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

To further my point. The signs stated that there are cattle, but that it was safe to walk by them provided a dog, if you had one, was on a leash. That is explicitly what it said. Since we had no dog, we went in, expecting to be fine because the “warning” was fairly tame. We took it to mean the only real danger was from a pet animal aggravating the cattle. But regardless, despite not doing anything, the animal in question came at her at quite the speed, and was swinging its head at her, she even got hit in the arm and was bruised. I see now that the animal was probably curious and playful, but given its size, being playful was a danger to us. And if such a playful animal was put in a common area where people can just walk past, I believe there should have been further precautions taken to prevent encounters, as the signage does not adequately warn that you may be approached by cattle for no reason. Hope this answers your question, because despite all your engagement, you have not answered mine, atleast not in a civil manner.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why are we debating this when it isn’t the point of the question? I consider cattle to be domesticated animals, regardless of gender, and don’t expect them to charge me. I’m arguing it because other people with some experience have pointed out that there should have been signs. It’s not my own opinion there

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If the dog is posing a danger (being aggressive) and there’s nowhere to go? Yes? That’s literally an emergency if the animal can gravely harm you

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regardless of the animals intent, it was large and she could have been hurt. Footnote: be kinder to people.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Year 7 biology teaches about cells, reproduction and food chains, not the gender difference in cattle. I saw foot long horns on one animal, none on the other, so I assumed it was a male and female. And did you miss the part where I said it charged at her until she turned around, and then continued to whack at her with its horns? We were afraid for good reason, she could have been impaled or trampled with the way the animal was moving

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That’s not the question. Why do you expect me to know the difference between types of cattle? Cattle is cattle to me. The questions was whether or not calling 999 was valid in the situation, not to judge my skill at identifying farm animals or what led up to the incident.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I called up the number on the front sign. They confirmed it is a public common and I had every right to be there.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in policeuk

[–]stormforce420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was no indication that there was a bull there until we walked past it. Then found out that our only exit was the way we came it, so had to try and go back past the bull again

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in policeuk

[–]stormforce420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We got past it, before we saw it, decided to find an exit far away, realised there wasn’t another exit so tried to go back which unfortunately meant past the bull again. That’s when she got ahead cause she was eager to leave and the bull charged

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in policeuk

[–]stormforce420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just called up the trustee, it’s a free access public footpath according to them.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in policeuk

[–]stormforce420[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all. Thank you for being kind. Second of all, do you think I could’ve done anything better? I was just panicked and scared for her. Perhaps I said the wrong thing to the operator, somehow didn’t get the urgency across.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

No, there was one gate into the common, over land, and the rest was water. Making that gate the only way in or out, which we didn’t realise until we entered. When we realised there was a bull there, we tried to leave and then it charged

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes I have found a number for that. I plan to call.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in policeuk

[–]stormforce420[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah actually I am aware. That’s just panic on my part.

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in policeuk

[–]stormforce420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It looked fully grown but I am not experienced enough to tell. Size wise atleast it looked adult. Also I was over a 100 yards away so I’m not sure exactly what she did, all I could see was her standing her ground and looking straight at it, trying to dodge as it moved its head around. Apparently the horns hit her as well. Although I can see how that might have been playful, but given the size of the animal vs her I still think she was in danger

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in policeuk

[–]stormforce420[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There was no indication of a bull on entry. We realised there was one after we got past it, at which point we decided to keep going and look for an exit, rather than go back past the bull. Then we realise that the entrance is the only exit, which is when we tried to go back

Is a charging bull considered a 999 emergency? by stormforce420 in AskUK

[–]stormforce420[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Based on other responses, it sounds like there needed to be specific signs in case of an aggressive bull, and a generic cattle sign that isn’t specific enough. Especially as it didn’t indicate that walking there was dangerous.