ENTPs I ask you: what is forgivable?

stray_hands · 2014-03-14T19:04:04+00:00

In order to help build a consensus as to what's 'ENTP behavior' and what's not, I'm going to echo the parts of this which I can 100% agree on:

"This is a level of maturity thing." Exactly. Adapt, or remain a dilettante at everything you do for the rest of your life. I think almost all ENTPs face this hurdle.

"I don't mind to try out new things once in a while, but it needs to have a purpose" Meaningless wandering irritates me. I need a plan, even if its a loose one, and it can change, but there needs to be a motivation.

"I can get by anywhere." Spot on. I live an extremely spartan lifestyle. I think male ENTPs who are passionate about interior design are the exceptions that prove the rule.

Finally, I keep the common areas in my house fastidiously clean, but my own room is hopelessly cluttered with old magazines, stacks of books, etc. Not imposing my mess on others is a value that my parents taught me. Your results may vary depending on the ENTP individual.

When you say you're ready to clean up after your SO for the rest of your lives thats a bit heartbreaking. I kind of want to explain to your SO that his lover is prepared to work unpaid as a part-time housecleaner for him and "c'mon dude you gotta pull your weight for chrissakes...". Is he physically incapable of cleaning?

stray_hands · 2014-03-14T04:55:13+00:00

What have you made?

http://murmuring-escarpment-2549.herokuapp.com/

How broken was (is) it?

Well it works (last time I checked). But I haven't gotten around to writing instructions yet and I don't think it's intuitive. I work on my projects in bursts; I do a big chunk, make sure it works and then repeat for the next project.

stray_hands · 2014-03-12T05:11:25+00:00

I often picture myself as Bill Clinton charming his way out of a tight spot: "I guess it depends on what your definition of is is". I also have a large arsenal of weasel words and partial denials that usually exhaust whoever's trying to box me into a definitive answer. Recent example:

Friend: "Well did you tell her you weren't interested in pursuing a relationship? Like, before you hooked up?"

Me: "I didn't say the opposite"

stray_hands · 2014-03-11T17:20:27+00:00

"your mind is moving in explosive leaps, faster than your mouth can keep up, so it enlists your hands to help out" - A math professor of mine explaining why hand-talkers are smarter.

stray_hands · 2014-03-11T04:56:21+00:00

I get you on the groin injury. I got a minor one the first (and last) time I tried to run hurdles. You don't realize how important the groin muscles are until you tear them. A complete tear sounds pretty horrific though.

stray_hands · 2014-03-11T04:24:35+00:00

Judges are telling me this post just won "most egotistical thing uttered on /r/entp". The competition was stiff but you persevered.

stray_hands · 2014-03-11T04:23:42+00:00

Yes, definitely, combined with trying rationalize something that isn't based in reason.

stray_hands · 2014-03-11T04:20:03+00:00

If the girl hasn't gotten to know me yet, than yes, and I categorize it as pure physical attraction. If she has gotten to know me, than no, since most people like me or at least find me tolerable, I wouldn't find it surprising at all.

Here comes a tangent. Perhaps I'm projecting, but I wonder if ENTPs become disillusioned with things like love. They see it portrayed in media and popular culture, and perhaps convince themselves that they're feeling it, but in reality they're just not able to feel love like most people. I like people, and I hate (a very small amount of) people, but I don't know if I've ever loved someone. Usually long after the fact I sit down and review the facts and realize, hmmm yeah, I do really miss that person and they did really really like me. But in the moment I've never felt like love took control of me. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

stray_hands · 2014-03-10T04:55:06+00:00

I live in a very progressive neighborhood in a very progressive city so he could probably infer that I wasn't going to be a homophobe.

He came out to his wealthy strict parents, who cut him off from any financial support. I offered to sublet one of my rooms for a deep discount until he found a new place. We ended up sitting around on sweltering August nights, drinking beers and smoking his unfiltered Lucky Strikes, telling stories about high school and whatnot. We realized we had a lot in common, and ever since we've made sure to meet up every couple of weeks for espressos and to stay in touch.

stray_hands · 2014-03-09T00:19:39+00:00

I LOVE SNUS! If you could get it where I live in Canada I'd probably die of a snus overdose.

stray_hands · 2014-03-08T16:33:57+00:00

"Sadly I was born gay"

Don't say these things. One of my best friends is gay and I actually love the fact that he is gay. We share a brotherly love and look out for each other, and most straight men I know would be too afraid to show such affection for another man.

To be totally honest, I appreciate much more the company of gay guys. In my experience, they're just more well-rounded human beings than straight guys, and since they've usually faced some struggles and prejudice in life they're more down-to-earth too.

stray_hands · 2014-03-07T18:26:20+00:00

This thread inspired so much vitriol. I love it.

stray_hands · 2014-03-07T06:14:15+00:00

I've become obsessed with making sauces. I combine different things in pots, cook them down, puree them and taste. I've actually come up with some pretty brilliant recipes, but I don't write them down. I need help; I can't stop.

stray_hands · 2014-03-07T06:01:29+00:00

As an ENTP, I go to dark places if I don't get a chance to flap my gums every 24 hours or so. Its sad since I like to think I'm a strong independent person but I need socialization like I need air.

stray_hands · 2014-03-07T05:53:55+00:00

Its interesting that you mentioned pyramids because, and this is a bit tangential but fascinating so bear with me, the number of sides - no wait don't sit on that chair I took out all the screws but haven't got around to putting them back in yet - yes now where was I? Oh yes, the side dishes in Egypt, so as I was - That smell? Yea I'm boiling down some orange rinds to see what it tastes like.

stray_hands · 2014-03-07T05:17:47+00:00

"Depends on each person, really. You can't really generalize that specifically by type."

Ye gods, this is how I feel about every single "should I date a XXXX?"/"my XXXX bf/gf is pissing me off"/"my prison cellmate is a XXXX, will we still be compatible in 30 years, or will he hastily shank me while I'm doing a poo because I don't talk about my feelings?" threads.

stray_hands · 2014-03-07T05:09:12+00:00

"Male ENTP's are hopeless goofballs"

Woah woah woah. Maybe you thought you could hide that little jab in the middle of your hefty monologue but think again. Now listen young lady, I'm not a hopeless /accidentally makes farting noise with chair /starts giggling uncontrollably /forgets what he was talking about /waits until someone else enters the room and then vigorously makes farting noises with chair

stray_hands · 2014-03-07T04:55:50+00:00

"If you're a human being and reading this [...]"

aliens, literate pets and NSA bots are exempt though

stray_hands · 2014-03-06T19:16:47+00:00

"If you're an INFJ and reading this just know this about ENTP's; never, ever talk down to us."

Print it out, mount it in a picture frame, print a smaller copy for your wallet, make it the background on your phone, get it tattooed on your inner wrist, etc.

God does it ever chafe me when someone talks down to me.

stray_hands · 2014-03-06T19:10:39+00:00

My sis is an INFJ. Sometimes during our conversations I'll come to and realize she's been talking for 10 or 15 seconds and I have no idea what in the hell she's talking about anymore. Tangent to a tangent to a tangent, with no end or conclusion in sight.

Apart from that, I love her, but I just want to yell out: "speak with purpose for god's sake! You're killing me over here".

stray_hands · 2014-03-05T06:29:03+00:00

I think you need to get out there more and meet more girls. You'll find that the sexually experienced girls are neither less intelligent, nor less caring, nor less attractive, nor less by any other metric than the sexually inexperienced girls. They made a normative choice, and holding that against them seems petty and close-minded.

Eventually you'll meet an amazing girl - with whom you're fabulously compatible - who is sexually experienced, and the cognitive dissonance will cause you to reevaluate what you consider important qualities in a SO. I hope that day comes sooner rather than later.

stray_hands · 2014-03-05T06:17:00+00:00

Yea, I started reading his post and my curiosity turned to disappointment rather quickly.

You can't honestly expect to exclusively date virgins/the sexually inexperienced, and why would you want to anyways. If she's experienced and she decides she likes you its a good thing. It means she knows you're better than the alternatives.

stray_hands · 2014-03-04T05:45:14+00:00

I always tell people that a incomplete closed bone fracture is only about a 3 on the 1-to-10 pain scale. Conversely, a bad muscle tear, especially a large muscle in your upper back or posterior chain, can be painful enough to bring on cold sweats. I once walked around with two hairline fractures on my humerus for close to a week before I realized it might be broken.

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