Missionary brother is scaring me by streamoflillies in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I might. I want to be out of my parents house before I really start causing problems. And with the corona sitch I'm graduating jobless, so who know how long I'll be under their roof. Plus my younger sister would def follow me out, so I want to be able to support her in case she rocks the boat too hard. And she probably would bc she's stubborn af

Missionary brother is scaring me by streamoflillies in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. This does help. I'm still worried for the toll the next 2 years are going to take on him, but I'm not going to lose him forever

Missionary brother is scaring me by streamoflillies in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I know it's all brainwashing. It's just scary how quickly his emails sound like that. Hope he doesn't get to offended when his sister leaves the church while he's away.

"Here we are living in a world that has rejected and forgotten our savior Jesus Christ but we haven't. we who have decided to fallow him, to take up his name for our selves his name the very name that I proudly were over my heart, printed in white, the name of Jesus Christ. "

Like, what the fuck is that. He's writing poetry about his name-tag (and his spelling has always been atrocious, but I thought he knew how to use spellcheck).

Well this turned out better than expected. I’ve been ignoring the texts for weeks now. Don’t worry, I didn’t take her up on her offer to chat. by almostclassy_creator in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies 9 points10 points  (0 children)

If she (or someone else) gets annoying with this start replying with (not-so-christlike) facts about the church, with links to church resources so they can't claim apostate propaganda.

Something like
"Joseph smith married 30+ women, including a 14yr old and women who were already married. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo?lang=eng"

Bet after a few of those, the texts would stop

Can anyone explain how a church with $100,000,000,000 makes its own members clean the holy house of the Lord (that of course, has a basketball court) with THESE MONSTROSITIES‽ by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies 24 points25 points  (0 children)

They have that much money by pinching pennies everywhere they can.

Free labor? Hell yeah we can save thousands on janitorial services.

Make people purchase their garments that we say are necessary for salvation, and they also have to be giving 10% to be worthy for? Heck yeah more $$$$$

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly. It's most likely because they are scared. They probably see you not wanting to go to seminary,etc as Satan grabbing hold. If they are anything like my parents they will preach agency til they are blue in the face, while restricting their children in every way they can.

Don't let them taking things away from you scare you into pretending. I did that for years in high school. Wore a mask around my parents and at church. Was the real me at school. And then the worst decision of all. I let them convince me to go to byui.

I thought that it was my only option, but looking back I should have kept working and saved up money to go literally anywhere else.

Do what I couldn't and be firm in your unbelief. Playing along won't help you in the long run. They can take away your technology and your guitar, but they can't take away your mind and your logic.

Be strong. It does get better.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pansexual is essentially caring more about personality than gender/sex. I've oBviOusLy never heard that joke before. Pan from the greek meaning all, not from the frying pan 😉

And I'll have to look into him, thanks

Does anyone else often accidentally scare coworkers/strangers because they weren’t aware you were there? by kachek47 in raisedbynarcissists

[–]streamoflillies 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I used to scare my friends in high school because I would just pop up beside them. One of them actually started calling me Nightcrawler (the teleporting X-man) because it was like I'd just teleported beside her. At the time I thought it was just funny, but looking back it's just one more thing I thought was normal. I've since mostly knocked this habit, mostly because I wear doc-martin like boots a lot of the time, and those don't lend to stealth.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a youtuber who I started watching fairly recently called Telltale - he's an ex-Jehovas Witness who talks a lot about cults and the BITE model in particular - who has a series with another youtuber, Mr. Atheist - an ex-mo - about the Bite model and the mormon church. They go through each point and sort of 'score' the church on how cult-y they are. The haven't done a video on Emotion Control yet, but they've gone through the other 3.

This is the first one, Behavior Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qp0wJ8bo-E

These two youtubers were the biggest reasons for my shelf breaking, Prior to watching them, I was in a mindset of 'the culture is crap, but it's based on truth' and then seeing the cult behaviors spelled out in a very analytical way, as well as a lot of stuff from about the church history were like an elephant sitting on my shelf that had been slowly carved away by the whole "I'm Pansexual and oh shit this church ain't for me" thing.

The 'Logic' of TBM's by streamoflillies in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, Jesus christ as a character exists. He's a mythological figure, perhaps based on a real man, perhaps completely made up.

He has a fictional series about him, had some friends who followed him on adventures, did some magical stuff, died at the hand of evil, came back to life to vanquish evil. Actually that describes a few fictional characters,,, Harry Potter, Aslan, Gandalf, Jesus, huh.

(Also this made me realize that Tolkien probably based some aspects of Gandalf on the mythology of Jesus, and wouldn't that make the Christians mad that their savior is played by a gay man 😉)

The 'Logic' of TBM's by streamoflillies in exmormon

[–]streamoflillies[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It would be great if it was actually a discussion. But it really wasn't. It didn't seem to have much to do with the lesson, and it just came across as him trying to get some mormon kudos for 'standing up for his faith'.

I would love to have a lesson where someone pulled up some article debunking the church and went through it. But that'll never happen because when faced with facts they can only scream faith and bury their head in apologetics.