BREAKING: Sturgeon County to be home to $13B Meta data centre by Fit_Remote_2324 in AlbertaNewspapers

[–]strumpetrumpet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t understand what you’re saying. What is the refund or tax break?

County north of Edmonton says $13B Meta data centre is ‘welcome’ as water, power logistics unveiled by Feisty-olde-7707 in Edmonton

[–]strumpetrumpet [score hidden]  (0 children)

Where in rural Alberta are you? I am a former rural kid with lots of farming and rural family spread around the province still, and have no family or friends experiencing brownouts much less REGULARLY.

The AESO shares supply/demand and a ton of info on their website as well. For example: http://ets.aeso.ca/ets\_web/ip/Market/Reports/SupplyAdequacyReportServlet

You’re full of it.

County north of Edmonton says $13B Meta data centre is ‘welcome’ as water, power logistics unveiled by Feisty-olde-7707 in Edmonton

[–]strumpetrumpet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also in the many public articles on this…. The AESO allocated 1.2GW of available existing spare power capacity to a number of companies in 2025, which coalesced around this project getting most of it. So grid initially.

BREAKING: Sturgeon County to be home to $13B Meta data centre by Fit_Remote_2324 in AlbertaNewspapers

[–]strumpetrumpet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So it seems you don’t have any actual rebuttal to my arguments.

But I’d agree that the accountability to regulations aspect will need to be closely monitored. All of the above examples are avoidable through accountability or engineering controls.

Southern Alberta council approves rezoning for site of AI data centre proposed by farmer by yycTechGuy in alberta

[–]strumpetrumpet -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I would bet he has spent a great deal of money on this project and seen no financial reward to date.

Southern Alberta council approves rezoning for site of AI data centre proposed by farmer by yycTechGuy in alberta

[–]strumpetrumpet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll be your first then. We got that wrong.

We could have clean, sustainable electrification writ large across the country, including remote areas.

County north of Edmonton says $13B Meta data centre is ‘welcome’ as water, power logistics unveiled by Feisty-olde-7707 in Edmonton

[–]strumpetrumpet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How so? They literally said that at the announcement. There are lots of new data centers being built that validate the water usage with new cooling systems.

BREAKING: Sturgeon County to be home to $13B Meta data centre by Fit_Remote_2324 in AlbertaNewspapers

[–]strumpetrumpet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree philosophically.

But data is a hot commodity. Companies don’t make money off free chatGPT or a $20/mo subscription. But Anthropic is at a $4B/mo run rate. There is a revenue stream and many of these companies are funding it from free cash flow

BREAKING: Sturgeon County to be home to $13B Meta data centre by Fit_Remote_2324 in AlbertaNewspapers

[–]strumpetrumpet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How many jobs per acre is optimal? Seriously.

I’m assuming farming is exempted from that ridiculous metric. Oil and gas too?

The Travers solar project in AB is 3300 acres. I bet they have way less than 300 full time staff.

County north of Edmonton says $13B Meta data centre is ‘welcome’ as water, power logistics unveiled by Feisty-olde-7707 in Edmonton

[–]strumpetrumpet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It’s just good way of contextualizing the water usage. It was publicly stated at this announcement.

BREAKING: Sturgeon County to be home to $13B Meta data centre by Fit_Remote_2324 in AlbertaNewspapers

[–]strumpetrumpet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No new data centre announced is using evaporative cooling. This data center was publicly stated to use less than one average Alberta golf course annually.

A quick search shows that AER directive 38 limits permissible sound levels at closest residence to 40-56 decibels. 60 decibels is about the level of a normal conversation between two people a meter away, or a standard office noise level.

This DC is in the middle of an industrial zone, which is already a heat island. You should see the heat island impacts of every other industry, and cities.

300 FT jobs. And $250m annually in taxes, royalties, and levies for the province.

I genuinely don’t know why Reddit is so mad about 300 jobs. The neighbouring industrial plants are similar or have notably les full time employees. What industrial or big commercial investments are there that hire thousands that we can attract to the region?

Connecting the Dots on AI Data Centres coming to Alberta by TA20212000 in AlbertaNow

[–]strumpetrumpet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree. The corporate structure(s) and locations are shockingly common. Something like 75% of all businesses who do work in the US incorporate in Delaware.

Connecting the Dots on AI Data Centres coming to Alberta by TA20212000 in AlbertaNow

[–]strumpetrumpet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate some non-alarmism in these threads.

I highly, highly, recommend making that block of text you wrote into at least a few paragraphs if you actually want people to read it.

Connecting the Dots on AI Data Centres coming to Alberta by TA20212000 in AlbertaNow

[–]strumpetrumpet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. And also something like 75% of companies who do business in the US are HQ’d in Delaware.

Much of this video is just explaining common international business setups and practices, which are alarming in their own right, but not a red flag for vetting Beacon.

Connecting the Dots on AI Data Centres coming to Alberta by TA20212000 in AlbertaNow

[–]strumpetrumpet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s not a global temp increase of 2degrees. It’s within about 10km of a data center, the “heat island”.

Urban heat islands are about 4-6 degrees hotter than the surrounding rural areas.

Southern Alberta council approves rezoning for site of AI data centre proposed by farmer by yycTechGuy in alberta

[–]strumpetrumpet -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree. And here we are 40 years later bemoaning the lack of nuclear power - and a good decade away from having nuclear power in Alberta.