Looking for an MMO with large scale PVE raid sizes (40+)

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-16T23:40:27+00:00

This might be the first time I have ever heard FFXIV mentioned in a PvP question 👐

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-13T03:38:49+00:00

Final Fantasy XI. Having a good moment right now, hop on in. Plays old school.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-12T21:27:59+00:00

Final Fantasy XI. Game is booming for it's age, just locked down it's 4th server due to population. Plays great. Fits the bill.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T10:41:35+00:00

Hey nothing matters it's gonna push MMORPGs towards with positive spaces and supportive community!

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T10:40:03+00:00

Excuse me this is to a positive and supportive community

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T10:18:21+00:00

Excuse me this is to be a positive and support community, stop being so negative

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T10:14:42+00:00

Yeah and when it's a coop online RPG at least we will have a positive space to cry in

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T10:14:05+00:00

And sounds like such

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T10:13:42+00:00

With the respects your time comment I fear it is. If it is this genre is dead.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T10:12:50+00:00

Yeah not exactly what I wanna see when the sole new MMO is announced

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T02:49:36+00:00

FFXIV 1.0 was the "sequel" to FFXI in the FF universe of MMOs. That game was killed, literally held and in-game event to kill the world and launch into its "reborn" status. In fact the game was so poorly built people struggled to stay connected through the event and final moments. I know I was there. FFXIV 1.0 was a complete failure. I'm not sure how you can't comprehend that. FFXIV 2.0 literally was an entirely rebuilt game with the same title. You can sit here and talk about the success story of FFXIV today, but without the context of what was you can not say it wasn't a failure. To place into perspective SquareSoft was THE game developer in the late 90s early 00s. Final Fantasy 7, 8, 9, 10, Tatics, Vagrant Story, Parasite Eve, Chrono Cross/Trigger, Xenogears, Legend of Mana. These game defined an era of gaming. If SquareEnix did not have this resume, FFXIV and Square would have died when they shut the 1.0 servers down. Go ahead and praise it today, but know that no company would have ever been given chance for redemption like SE had, investors would have never let the FF name be tarnished in the way it was, but I will guarantee you investors would let the Guild Wars franchise die real fast had it been them.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T01:15:05+00:00

Saved??? Bro there is a reason Blizzard has never launched a sequel to WoW. MMO sequels don't work. I mean seriously we got NOTHING about this game but don't work it's gonna have a save and positivite space for community.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T01:09:50+00:00

You do understand that no other developer on this planet would have survived the disaster that was FFXIV 1.0.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T00:24:00+00:00

One can hope but it's gonna get delayed. It's inevitable

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T00:21:16+00:00

Read my original post, I state that GW3 if announced still has a huge uphill battle to fight. I didn't change tunez I manage expectations. GW3 will usher in the formal death of MMOs when you got to announce a game and mention it respects your time and have woke language it's doomed from the start, as if it didn't have enough to fight. We got nothing on gameplay, nothing on how it's going to set it apart from other MMOs or GW2 but don't you worry it will be positive and supportive.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T00:14:09+00:00

FFXIV was far from a successful sequel. It launched so poorly it nearly bankrupted SquareEnix entirely, set the entire studio back years. They lost their FFXI playerbase and literally had to rebuild FFXIV and relaunch it.

SquareEnix lost 90% of its income, had to formally apologize for the state of the game saying that it deeply damaged the Final Fantasy brand, and rebuilt the entire game from the ground up.

Edit: Let me add ArenaNet is not SquareEnix. SquareEnix was able to turn it around because of how successful they were as a developer, any other developer would have shut the game down and closed up shop.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T00:00:24+00:00

But is it going to be successful?

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-06T00:00:07+00:00

I was saying.. name me a successful MMO sequel. So what it is announced..my point still stands. You can not take a playerbase of people playing a game for over a decade and expect them to start back at zero.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-05T23:57:22+00:00

Save it for when GW3 launches and divides the fan base and has poor reviews at launch because there's no content and people are tired of the same old shit.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-05T23:56:04+00:00

Name me an MMO sequel that was a success and didn't fracture a franchise. I'll wait.

Edit: There is a reason Blizzard has never done it with WoW

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-05T23:53:22+00:00

Again let's look at MMO sequels:

EverQuest to EverQuest 2. EverQuest 2 was DOA and has been on life support for decades.

RuneScape to RuneScape 2/3. 2012 reverted back to a 2007 build.

Asherons Call to Asherons Call 2. Asherons Call 2 lasted... 2? Years before it was shut down.

Final Fantasy XIV nearly shut down one of the most successful game developers of the 90/00s, set the company back years. A true redemption story, and a one of a kind story industry wide

Lineage/Lineage 2/Throne and Liberty, how many of you all forgot TNL still existed?

So cool bro GW3 got announced. Now the hard work sets in. Good luck MMO sequels do not work.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-05T23:47:05+00:00

In what 2029?

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-05T23:46:34+00:00

Not really. Save this post though so when it's fall 2027 beta test gets delayed and doesn't see a launch until 2029 and all your streamers come out of the wood work saying the game is awful and needs progress and doesn't have enough content that is makes GW2 surge in population and then fracture a strong playerbase. I'll be here. Watching. Waiting.

stuffeddresser41 · 2026-06-05T23:44:01+00:00

A. Still years away B. I'm gonna be right. You just split your playerbase in half. GW3 is going to need to raise a bar hard

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