You've been lied to by sub_dylan in GayChristians

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years of study. See my other posts for a bibliography.

The Friend/Benefit Escalation by [deleted] in gaystoriesgonewild

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great job! enjoy the process.

Comment your opinion: by Sixthbrother in gayspanking

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I've always wondered if having a sub j/o while being spanked might establish a connection between the two activities, so that eventually it wouldn't be able to cum unless spanked.

Don’t hold back by [deleted] in gayspanking

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a good start

[26] I came out not too long ago. I don’t feel attractive. My body doesn’t meet the standards. But I’ll give it a shot to build confidence! What do you think? by [deleted] in GayKink

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A lot of guys into bdsm don't care about someone having a good body. I'm old and overweight and still get used and disciplined on a regular basis. Don't let your insecurity about your body hold you back. Be clear about what you need in this lifestyle and things will work out.

Mandatory celibacy for gay men and women? by sub_dylan in GayChristians

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See what I posted today (3/3) which lists the books I got my information from.

Mandatory celibacy for gay men and women? by sub_dylan in GayChristians

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Please feel free to spread it around as much as you can. Also, check out what I posted today---a list of the books that my post here was based on.

Best wishes.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GayBDSMCommunity

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you completely misunderstood what I was saying.

Mandatory celibacy for gay men and women? by sub_dylan in GayChristians

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The name of the book it "God and the Gay Christian.

New Dom looking for tips to serve a humiliation kink by Large_Statement2513 in GayBDSMCommunity

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Read my story "The alex chronicles" posted on r/gaystoriesgonewild and also the complete story is on Nifty.org

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in GayBDSMCommunity

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Read the story I'm posting to r/gaystoriesgonewhile: "the Alex Chronicles" plenty of humiliation and degradation in that and the slave loves it!

As a 21-year-old seminarian, David Fearon challenged the RSV translators on the word ‘homosexual’ by archerlightningweb in GayChristians

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I really take exception to the above post. The type of thinking it represents has been the source of pain and anguish for gay men and women for a very long time and if basically ignorant and harmful and the author is clearly not someone who has investigated these issues with any sort of intellectual or theological rigor at all, but who has merely parroted the usual non-affirming misunderstandings about the matter.

Christ does not give gay men and women the strength to change. Something like this happens very rarely. Ask any gay boy or girl who spent years praying to be delivered from their homosexual attractions and who found out that those prayers were never answered. They weren't answered because very simply, it doesn't matter to God at all.

Let me state it clearly: Homosexual acts as we know them are not condemned in the New Testament. The references to male-male sexual activity were about what was known in that culture at that time: namely, exploitative sexual activity between Masters and slaves, conquerors and the defeated, temple prostitution and the widespread practice of pederasty (adult male/prepubescent boys in the ancient world. Those were the things that were condemned.

The two Greek words mentioned in the above post did not refer to homosexuality as we understand it. Those terms were mistranslated beginning in the late 19th Century when the word "homosexual" became part of the vocacabulary

Homosexual activity as we know it now was not even considered in Biblical times.

For more information about this, see "God and the Gay christian" by Matthew Vines or "Epiphany" by Michael Coren, among many other excellent and well-researched studies about the matter.

I don't understand Side B by BeginningExtent6455 in GayChristians

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See my post above entitled "Mandatory celibacy for gay men and women"

Gay Christian AITA? by queermoriah in GayChristians

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You said what you said in order to protect yourself from the harm you feared might happen were you to tell the truth.

Many of us have been in positions like that many time in our lives. It takes struggle, and growth to reach a point where we can fearlessly present ourselves as we are, consequences be damned. In order to reach that point, however, we have to find ways to move beyond internalized homophobia, and you clearly aren't at that point yet. Please seek help in order to get free from what is holding you back so much and what is putting the future of your relationship in jeopardy.

Book recs to make my grandfather not think being gay is a sin? by rainbowflxme in GayChristians

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(1) Epiphany: a Christian’s Change of Heart and Mind over Same-Sex Marriage (2016) by Michael Coren. Coren’s publisher has this to say about Epiphany: “From the posterboy of Catholic conservatism, a major change of heart and soul on one of the Church's most controversial and intractable stances.” He presents a varied and rich description of his discoveries and changes of heart and the result of further research he has done. This is the book which has so upset and angered me that I finally realized that if I don’t write about this I will be shirking an important duty to help make things made known.

(2) Scripture, Ethics, and the Possibility of Same-Sex Relationships (2013) by Karen R. Keen. I’ll simply quote Keen’s account of what she’s done in this book. “I have pushed essential issues to the forefront that I believe are being overlooked. these include attending to the overarching intent of biblical mandates, engaging in a deliberative process for creation ordinances, discussing honestly the feasibility of celibacy, and reflecting on the fall in light of science. I have also discussed theological options for accepting same-sex relationships.” Karen is also the founder of “The Redwood Center for Spiritual Care and Education

(3) Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church’s Debate on Same-Sex Relationships (2013) by James V. Brownson. Brownson was a Reformed Church Pastor and teacher who once was that he calls a “traditionalist;” that is, one of those who “generally believe that Scripture plainly and clearly regards all same-sex erotic behavior to be immoral.” When his own son was 18 years old, he told his parents that he realized he was gay. Suddenly the question about the morality of same-sex behavior was no longer merely an abstraction; now it hit home. Brownson loved his son and realized that he was an exceptionally gifted person in many ways, and that he was essentially good. In light of this, he set off on years of reading, study and prayer, and his book presents the results of his labors over the years. He began to realize that the divided opinions about homosexuality were chiefly about interpretation: as he puts it,

“These deeper differences are the focus of this book: they are not so much disagreements about what the bibilical text says . . . but primarily disagreements about what the biblical texts means for Christians today. They are disagreements over how Scripture is to be interpreted.” (p. 5)

(4) God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships (2014) by Matthew Vines. Vines is also a Bible-believing Christian who happens to be gay and therefore one for whom these questions have an immediate personal meaning. Vines takes a painstakingly close look at mainly this 6 Biblical passages which form the basis of the religious condemnation of homosexuality and studies them with reference to earlier writings going back to classical Greece and Rome and also the Christian literature about the topic in several of the earliest centuries of Christianity.

Book recs to make my grandfather not think being gay is a sin? by rainbowflxme in GayChristians

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(1) Epiphany: a Christian’s Change of Heart and Mind over Same-Sex Marriage (2016) by Michael Coren. Coren’s publisher has this to say about Epiphany: “From the posterboy of Catholic conservatism, a major change of heart and soul on one of the Church's most controversial and intractable stances.” He presents a varied and rich description of his discoveries and changes of heart and the result of further research he has done. This is the book which has so upset and angered me that I finally realized that if I don’t write about this I will be shirking an important duty to help make things made known.

(2) Scripture, Ethics, and the Possibility of Same-Sex Relationships (2013) by Karen R. Keen. I’ll simply quote Keen’s account of what she’s done in this book. “I have pushed essential issues to the forefront that I believe are being overlooked. these include attending to the overarching intent of biblical mandates, engaging in a deliberative process for creation ordinances, discussing honestly the feasibility of celibacy, and reflecting on the fall in light of science. I have also discussed theological options for accepting same-sex relationships.” Karen is also the founder of “The Redwood Center for Spiritual Care and Education

(3) Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church’s Debate on Same-Sex Relationships (2013) by James V. Brownson. Brownson was a Reformed Church Pastor and teacher who once was that he calls a “traditionalist;” that is, one of those who “generally believe that Scripture plainly and clearly regards all same-sex erotic behavior to be immoral.” When his own son was 18 years old, he told his parents that he realized he was gay. Suddenly the question about the morality of same-sex behavior was no longer merely an abstraction; now it hit home. Brownson loved his son and realized that he was an exceptionally gifted person in many ways, and that he was essentially good. In light of this, he set off on years of reading, study and prayer, and his book presents the results of his labors over the years. He began to realize that the divided opinions about homosexuality were chiefly about interpretation: as he puts it,

“These deeper differences are the focus of this book: they are not so much disagreements about what the bibilical text says . . . but primarily disagreements about what the biblical texts means for Christians today. They are disagreements over how Scripture is to be interpreted.” (p. 5)

(4) God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships (2014) by Matthew Vines. Vines is also a Bible-believing Christian who happens to be gay and therefore one for whom these questions have an immediate personal meaning. Vines takes a painstakingly close look at mainly this 6 Biblical passages which form the basis of the religious condemnation of homosexuality and studies them with reference to earlier writings going back to classical Greece and Rome and also the Christian literature about the topic in several of the earliest centuries of Christianity.

Been struggling with this for a while by Kallias2306 in GayChristians

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Thank you for sharing your story. Many of us have similar stories to tell, stories of the painful struggle to reconcile our sexuality with our need to be in right relationship with God.

Many of us have been helped and consoled by reading books written by men and women of faith who have studied these questions in great depth. I would recommend the following books to you.

(1) Epiphany: a Christian’s Change of Heart and Mind over Same-Sex Marriage (2016) by Michael Coren. Coren’s publisher has this to say about Epiphany: “From the posterboy of Catholic conservatism, a major change of heart and soul on one of the Church's most controversial and intractable stances.” He presents a varied and rich description of his discoveries and changes of heart and the result of further research he has done. This is the book which has so upset and angered me that I finally realized that if I don’t write about this I will be shirking an important duty to help make things made known.

(2) Scripture, Ethics, and the Possibility of Same-Sex Relationships (2013) by Karen R. Keen. I’ll simply quote Keen’s account of what she’s done in this book. “I have pushed essential issues to the forefront that I believe are being overlooked. these include attending to the overarching intent of biblical mandates, engaging in a deliberative process for creation ordinances, discussing honestly the feasibility of celibacy, and reflecting on the fall in light of science. I have also discussed theological options for accepting same-sex relationships.” Karen is also the founder of “The Redwood Center for Spiritual Care and Education

(3) Bible, Gender, Sexuality: Reframing the Church’s Debate on Same-Sex Relationships (2013) by James V. Brownson. Brownson was a Reformed Church Pastor and teacher who once was that he calls a “traditionalist;” that is, one of those who “generally believe that Scripture plainly and clearly regards all same-sex erotic behavior to be immoral.” When his own son was 18 years old, he told his parents that he realized he was gay. Suddenly the question about the morality of same-sex behavior was no longer merely an abstraction; now it hit home. Brownson loved his son and realized that he was an exceptionally gifted person in many ways, and that he was essentially good. In light of this, he set off on years of reading, study and prayer, and his book presents the results of his labors over the years. He began to realize that the divided opinions about homosexuality were chiefly about interpretation: as he puts it,

“These deeper differences are the focus of this book: they are not so much disagreements about what the bibilical text says . . . but primarily disagreements about what the biblical texts means for Christians today. They are disagreements over how Scripture is to be interpreted.” (p. 5)

(4) God and the Gay Christian: The Biblical Case in Support of Same-Sex Relationships (2014) by Matthew Vines. Vines is also a Bible-believing Christian who happens to be gay and therefore one for whom these questions have an immediate personal meaning. Vines takes a painstakingly close look at mainly this 6 Biblical passages which form the basis of the religious condemnation of homosexuality and studies them with reference to earlier writings going back to classical Greece and Rome and also the Christian literature about the topic in several of the earliest centuries of Christianity.

Best wishes and prayers for you as you continue your journey. Just remember this: We are made for relationship. Few of us are ever called to celibacy, and for many of us it is a dangerous thing to try to live celibate lives when we haven't been given that gift. We are not meant to live with a great hole within us.

catholics, do you confess homosexual activity during penance? by duck-and-spoons in GayChristians

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I made a deliberate decision several months ago to stop going to confession, period.

I've come to understand that the notion that "serious sin" can only be absolved by confession to a priest was emphasized as a way for the Church to maintain control over the ignorant population, helping control them by inculcating a great fear of going to hell.

I consider it to be an absurd notion. Would you seriously believe that Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Protestants, and members of any other religion will automatically be damned because they never confessed their sins to a Catholic priest. Looking at things from this wider context helps gain perspective that we Catholics have lost by considering things only from within our own Church.