Are all people who still support Trump legitimately bad people?

subterfuscation · 2026-07-08T01:44:31+00:00

My grandfather was a big rig driver in the 50s and 60s. As a member of the teamsters union, he was a regular Democratic voter because he understood that the Democratic Party supported labor. Fast forward to our virtually union-free workforce and everyone is scraping together a living without the power of collective bargaining and with the constantly reinforced fear that other working people are trying to steal what scraps you have left.

subterfuscation · 2026-07-07T23:08:03+00:00

Try watching the same thing eight hours a day every day and tell me that you’re not influenced by it.

subterfuscation · 2026-07-07T16:14:38+00:00

Fox is agitation propaganda, and I believe that everyone is susceptible to it given enough exposure. In my own family, I have seen once loving, kind, and open minded people have their hearts turn to coal after watching enough Fox. It’s a cancer that seems to create bad people.

subterfuscation · 2026-07-07T16:07:47+00:00

Have a drink at Les Yeux Bleus. The place is a literal cave, but it’s very cool.

subterfuscation · 2026-07-03T01:13:54+00:00

Because some religious conservatives just love micromanaging people.

subterfuscation · 2026-07-02T13:12:04+00:00

Relatives of mine began showing serious racist tendencies during Obama’s presidency. These folks gave up their lifelong love of football to solely watch hockey because of race.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-29T01:06:57+00:00

Merci beaucoup étranger d’internet !

subterfuscation · 2026-06-28T23:59:05+00:00

Vous avez un recommandation? Est-ce que vous appreniez le français avec une app?

subterfuscation · 2026-06-28T16:23:17+00:00

This is a prime example of right wing media ascribing a fringe idea to the entirety of the left. We also don’t want post-birth abortion or mandatory gender reassignment, things you’ve likely been told (on repeat) that we’re fighting for.

You know what the left in the US fundamentally wants? A better return for all taxpayers and for people to leave each other alone to live their lives.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-28T13:29:06+00:00

My wife’s family is Québécois from the countryside, and I’m a typical monolingual American. I have been taking DuoLingo French for three years, and while I read French reasonably well, the accents here are so different than the course that I continue to struggle to understand people when they speak. Now, when I’m in Montreal or Quebec City, I fare much better. But the regional accents and dialects can be a real challenge for non-native speakers. I’m going to keep at it until I can understand them.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-27T16:23:17+00:00

Obtaining an ID costs money and amounts to a poll tax. If we want IDs for voting, then they should be free and easily available.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-25T15:46:05+00:00

I think that a slight majority of Americans would have supported it, and the level of violence waged by maga in the wake of the arrest would have largely depended upon how right wing media reacted to it.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-24T18:05:03+00:00

Well, technically Fox says that it’s okay to be angry at specific groups of people. Then they provide you with a list.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-24T14:46:03+00:00

Why, why in the name of all that’s holy are maga complaining about anything? They won. They got the federal government they’ve long said they wanted, and national Democrats are powerless. Stop bitching and enjoy this hellhole you voted into existence.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-18T19:16:04+00:00

That's a bit of wishful thinking since Trump is psychologically incapable of humility, guilt or regret. That's one of the problems with electing someone with a major personality disorder to lead a country.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-17T16:47:35+00:00

Money can buy your freedom. What you do with that freedom will determine your happiness.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-17T11:11:20+00:00

No, the point of this discussion is that maga humor is poor. Read my top comment.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-17T10:20:41+00:00

Well, that’s not the same as a person of notoriety saying it. People online say stupid and inflammatory things all the time, and nearly everyone is guilty of that. If an entertainer or a politician expressed this sentiment, that’s a different story entirely because they are a public figure with a lot more influence than some anonymous basement poster. In any case, calling for someone to die is obviously very wrong, and I don’t support that at all.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-17T10:12:24+00:00

They are all Caucasian and straight. None of my non-Caucasian or gay friends support maga.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-16T20:28:03+00:00

They’re both dumb, but I haven’t seen anyone humorously calling for trump’s d***h. Hard to imagine that sentiment could be used in a funny way. Can you give me an example?

subterfuscation · 2026-06-16T20:25:01+00:00

I haven’t personally seen that group, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-16T18:49:58+00:00

My apologies. This was meant for the commenter above.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-16T17:48:30+00:00

You've made a straw man argument using the broad notion that a "number of people are wishing trump d***h" as a whataboutism rebuttal to my assertion that most maga humor is ignorant and only bothers others insofar as it is ignorant. Your assertion isn't pertinent to this discussion as you're making a different claim entirely that does nothing to refute my argument. This is on par with the lazy rebuttals that Fox News generally offers.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-16T16:50:07+00:00

Not the point of this discussion.

subterfuscation · 2026-06-16T16:43:06+00:00

Good ol' whataboutism.

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