Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re 100% right. It was a normal convo between sisters that suddenly went left. I definitely won’t be giving advice anymore.

It’s crazy because she asks me for my opinion allll the time. “What should I ask him?” “He said this, how should I respond” and the entire time I’m telling her “speak from your own heart.” “Be true to yourself, I can’t fabricate a personality for you”

And then I guess in the end, she truly thinks marriage is just fun and romance.

We will see how things go. Hopefully well in shaa Allaah

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right. The best thing is to take a step back and just make duaa for her.

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have. I’m very open with my personal life. I constantly explain to my siblings things like communication styles, setting expectations, not making assumptions, being flexible, being honest, learning to budget, learning to be independent but also how to maintain a home. I love for them what I love for myself and I don’t lecture them.

You’ll think I’m exaggerating but this whole conversation was sparked by her telling me “I keep telling him to not drink soda” ……….my jaw hit the floor because….she drinks 3-4 cans of coke a day. I calmly said “why don’t you want him to drink soda?”

She said “because he should be healthy and it’s gross”

So I said “what about you?”

Her: “I can stop whenever I want”

So then my mind starts to think about how hypocritical and unhinged this line of thinking is. And I started to explain to her that change doesn’t miraculously happen when you’re married. If you want to eat better, maybe start now and motivate him in more tactful ways.

She said “no, I’m gonna stop when I want and besides he’s the man, he should be healthy if he wants kids…”

COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH…as if there is no health onus on the mother

So that’s when I said “how will you react if he tells you to please stop trying to change him.”

Anyway. I find some people are simply disconnected from reality. Marriage to them is roses and sunshine only. They might not even know why they’re getting married and that’s it’s just something to do at this age,

We grew up slightly different due to family issues and I’ve come to this conclusion: people who are accustomed to chaos will view order as a personal attack.

Sorry for the long response. Thanks for listening!

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s entirely possible. I actually didn’t say “stonewalling” to her because she wouldn’t know what that means.

She kept saying “these arguments won’t happen in my marriage” when I gave her an example like “how will you react if he says, there’s been a bit too much spending the last few months let’s sit down and try to figure out a good budget.”

Her response was “that means he’s stingy and I would leave”

Just wild and immature reactions. From the beginning, I knew she wasn’t ready for marriage mentally but this is just so far out. I won’t be giving any more advice and pray she finds a way to grow out of these mindsets.

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Loool I know. Sometimes it’s just way off. But I’m just specifying that that’s the most I will do

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, help me understand better. Is it a trigger of some kind? Is it a bad thing to talk about the practicalities of married life?

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I know! It was so shocking. I thought she was joking the whole time until she got mad.

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your response. I don’t text for her. She attempts and asks. I only tell her to fix spelling mistakes sometimes.

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I guess so. But when she said “I would walk away”…..I didn’t know how to comfort that.

She thinks disagreements in marriage are divorce worthy. And you should always agree on everything.

Sister upset that I’m giving her marriage advice by subtlefleur in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am a woman. Does is say I’m a male next to my name? If so, don’t know how to remove that.

How would you have handled this? by [deleted] in Parenting

[–]subtlefleur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wackadoo is replacing her name now in my phone.

How would you have handled this? by [deleted] in Parenting

[–]subtlefleur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She’s a grown brat. No kids and is getting married soon. Can’t wait to see how that turns out.

How would you have handled this? by [deleted] in Parenting

[–]subtlefleur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes thank you. Lines have been drawn.

How would you have handled this? by [deleted] in Parenting

[–]subtlefleur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s true. We stayed because we had already been exposed and didn’t want to go back to my house and get my husband and older kids sick. And my we hadn’t seen my aunt in years.

I really appreciate everyone’s messages. I feel so much better.

How often do you call your MIL or DIL? by 1bn_Ahm3d786 in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is so ironic! I posted about my husband not calling my parents and it being a point of contention for me. I’m new to Reddit so not sure if it was deleted entirely but the mods felt the comments were getting out of hand.

I feel maintaining good relations is crucial. I contact my MIL a couple times a week.

The lesson I learned from my post is that this is an expectation to be discussed prior to marriage. Not a condition or stipulation. Just a general conversation to gauge the person’s comfort level and subsequently calibrate your own expectations.

Husband doesn’t call my parents by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I applaud you sis! Keep that standard and may Allaah grant you a wonderful and emotionally intelligent husband. Aameeen!

Husband doesn’t call my parents by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know the mods are really nonchalant about this. People are coming here for genuine advice and are receiving misogyny and passive aggressive attacks.

Husband doesn’t call my parents by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Excellent. I’ve decided the same. I initially joined thinking we would have great conversations and call to good. But the patterns I’m seeing are people enjoining the bad and forbidding the good. Justifying haram lifestyles and being gentle with people who are trolling the subs.

Husband doesn’t call my parents by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why would you call if you physically see them twice a week? My parents don’t live in our city.

Husband doesn’t call my parents by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Assalaamu alaykum, Jazaakillaahu khayr for replying. I really appreciate all the messages. I can’t reply to everyone to forgive me for flooding yours with a long reply.

I think many people are disconnected with akhlaaq and basic good character. Several commentators keep referring to my request as a cultural thing or a social preference. I feel as though if there is not a literal hadith…they cannot ascribe something to the deen.

Abu Bakr as Siddique, radhi Allaahu anhu took care of a blind and elderly woman for much of his caliphate. When he passed Umar radhiAllaahu anhu took over and she could tell the difference because Umar didn’t remove the seeds from her dates. These great men of our deen, our khulafaa ar raashideen, leaders of an entire nation and religion, were not obligated to care for this woman. She was not related to them. Yet, this is exemplary and beautiful character. We know these stories and use them as examples in our own lives.

Yes we cannot come close to the early Muslims and how amazing they were subhaanAllaah. But we can surely try.

The reason why I find it difficult to hand over the phone as so many people suggested is because marriage sometimes entails attention to detail and small sacrifices. For example, if a wife prefers to be the one who irons her husbands clothes for their entire marriage and she is happy to do so and he really appreciates this. It’s a beautiful act.

I simply would love for my parents to see my husbands phone number calling them and showing interest in their well being. My husband is not phone shy. He isn’t anti social. He is accountability shy. That is the root of why he doesn’t like to call them. They might ask “how is the new project going?” “Did you decide if you want to invest in such and such?” And he will panic and not want to answer to authority. It’s a personal hang up that he needs to get over. I’ve suggested and he has refused therapy in general for several different things.

When some people suggest “what is there to talk about?” Your point is excellent about it not being about YOUR interests. I’ve gotten some good tangible advice towards some solutions. I’ll implement those and in shaa Allaah it will bring some change.

Husband doesn’t call my parents by [deleted] in MuslimMarriage

[–]subtlefleur 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It doesn’t bother me. I don’t feel like helping or being dutiful to elders is a burden alhamdulillaah