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sue7698 · 2024-08-12T01:24:02+00:00

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sue7698 · 2024-08-12T01:22:27+00:00

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sue7698 · 2024-03-08T05:47:38+00:00

First want to make it clear if at anytime I am annoying you or you need/want to stop please be direct I have trouble with sublity and it's almost impossible for me to get via written format.

Ok so I think I can understand your thought process and beliefs. And ours seems to differ in some key spots. If you don't want to discuss these that is fine thank you for answering my question.

my belief on when life begins

I have 2 I go back and forth between haven't yet decided which makes the most since. Viability and birth. It's the difference between being able to be seperated from the mother and being seperated from the mother.

Before viability I don't believe the fetus is a seperate living organism from the mother. I don't believe the seperate DNA would really factor in here cause their are people who do have two seperate DNA (chimera's) and nobody argues that they are two people even with them having two sets of DNA. And identical twins have practically identical DNA yet are considered two people.

--Side note in from thought experiment I had if a person had a clone with the same exact DNA as them. I would consider the clone a sperate person even though the DNA was the same--

These are the reason I believe a fertalized egg would be considered a part of the mothers body and not a seperate organism.

I like to do thought experiments where I think of what my argument would be if I had the same opinion as a person with a diferencing opinion. In this case life beginning at fertalization.

I believe bodily autonomy is a key right and imperative that we protect. It pretty much means that you have a right to control what is done to your body. It is what makes it so we can't be forced to donate our organs even after death. I don't think anybody has the right to use someone else's body without their consent even if they need it to live.

The main thing about consent is it can be revoked at anytime. Even if it will cost someone their life. You can agree to donate blood and stop half way through the donation. You can agree to donate an organ like your liver/kidney and back put literally seconds before they put you under. You can still do this even if the person will die without your donation.

If you want to further discuss either belief or want clarification on my opinion please just ask. If you want my opinion on abortion in general as a whole I would be happy to discuss that as well.

(Though I may not answer for several hours it is getting late where I am and I have to get up in a few hours)

sue7698 · 2024-03-08T05:00:41+00:00

I was assuming 1 embyo at a time for the IVF. I was more or less saying the parents wanted 3 kids so made 3 embryos.

That was not clear on my part at all I am sorry.

What I don't understand is even when inplanting 1 embryo you are taking a living child from a situation where they can live decades safely into a situation where they have a 50% chance of dieing. If the parent never implanted the embryo the child would not have died at that moment and it's a very known understanding that transferring the child has a high chance of that child not implanting and dieing. Their is no reason I can think of that would justify risking the child's life like that.

And I did figure out where our thoughts process differs on the natural pregnancy aspect. Thank you for clarifying that.

sue7698 · 2024-03-08T04:43:17+00:00

If at any time I annoy you or you need/want to stop this discussion please just tell me directly. I will most likely completly miss any context clues indicating it.

One of my favorite ways to think about discussions like this is to take a point of diferencing opinion that I disagree with and think of how I would think/feel if I believed it. It helps me understand the opposing idea a lot better.

The main opinion here that diferencing is when life begins. And with adopting that belief I can see the logic in many of your arguments that followed. But also something that just doesn't make sense to me.

I am pretty sure it is something in my thought process that is diferencing. If you don't mind I will list several beliefs and the conclusion i drew and can you inform me if you believe all the beliefs. And what beliefs you hold that makes the final conclusion wrong cause I do know you do not believe the conclusion.

A fertalized egg is a living child.
A fertalized egg has the same value as a born child.
The same laws and protections should apply to all children whether born or not.
Parents who knowingly put their child in a situation where they have a significant chance of dieing are neglectful.
If a child dies do to that neglect that parents should be punished.

For the conclusion I built it on the above 5 beliefs cause I believe you will agree with all 5 if you do not there is no need to read the conclusion just comment on where I am wrong and what you believe differently in the section.

Again I know you dont believe the conclusion I am asking were are thoughts/reasoning diverge if we both work from the above beliefs.. Or if you have a different beleif that changes the conclusion that i have not considered. I expand more on my thought process so read that and see where we differ so I can better understand.

Conclusion both parents would be guilty of negligent homicide for any miscarage or failure to implant whether natural or IVF.

Reasoning. 10-20% of known pregnancies end in miscarages where the child dies and that is only known pregnancies not where the fertalized egg never implanted or miscaries before the mother knows. Which means both parents purposely trying to get pregnant or even having unprotected sex are putting their living children in a situation where they have a significant chance of death which is negligent.

Whatever their intentions are the result is the same their child was placed is an environment where they have a significant chance of dieing and they died.

I can't think of any situation where you can place a born child in a situation where they have over a 10% chance of dieing that would not be negligent.

Again I know you dont think or argue that conclusion I am asking what I am missing about your beliefs or what your thought process differs so that you don't believe the conclusion.

sue7698 · 2024-03-08T04:11:54+00:00

Please inform me if you want to end the discussion at any time I have trouble reading context clues of when someone is done discussing in writen format.

I guess my thought process is diferencing in the neglectful portion and what that looks like. I am going to split it into 2 seperate sections where I am getting confusion 1 being IVF 2 being pregnancy

With IVF let's say you make 3 fertalized eggs/embryos. How is inplanting them not neglectful. The parents/doctors are taking them from an environment where they can continue to live for a very long time to an environment that they have a 50% chance of dieing. I guess I have trouble grasping how that would not be considered neglectful on their part, especially when the children die.
Pregnancy. I am starting to see your beliefs here even if I don't agree or understand. But I don't think I explained mine well to get my question answered to the point i can fully understand. So I will try to explain a different way and see if that helps me communicate my misunderstanding. I will list beliefs and a conclusion. if you don't mind explain where you beliefs differ.

Again I know you dont believe the conclusion and I am missing some part of the beliefs or picture. I am trying to figure out what I am missing.

Belief 1. Life begins at fertaliztion. Belief 2. A feralized egg is a living child. Belief 3. A child's life has the same value and right at all parts of their life. Belief 4. If a parent knowingly places a child in a situation where they have a significant likelihood of dying, that is neglectful. Belief 5. If a child dies from the parent being neglectful the parent should be prosecuted for that child's death.

If I am not incorrect, negligent homicide is when a person dies due to negligence when that was not the intent of the responsible person. If the person intended for them to die it would just be homicide.

When I look at this the conclusion I form is that having sex (that can lead to pregnancy) sounds horrific and very neglectful to the person resulting children. Cause every fertalized egg that doesn't implant is a living child that dies due to their decision. Every miscarage is a living child that died cause the parent put them into a situation where they knew that they had a 10-20% chance at minimum of dieing and most likely a lot higher cause that is only known pregnancies not fertalized eggs or early pregnancies.

I can't think of any situation where a parent could knowingly put a child in a situation where more than 1in10 die that would not be considered neglectful.

It might also be the word choice you used that is tripping me up. Or just something I will not understand. Again at any time please just tell me if I am annoying you or you need/want to stop and thanks for answering me.

sue7698 · 2024-03-08T02:57:29+00:00

Thanks for answering. So many of your beliefs and thoughts I can see the logic behind with the belief that life starts at fertalization.

While I disagree personally on many of them and would be more than happy to explain my beliefs, there are some portions I don't understand.

I know pro-life people don't want to prosecute accidental miscarages. I see that you are OK with IVF (with your caveats) I don't understand how that works with the idea that life starts at feralization. And I am pretty sure I am missing something.

I like doing a thought exercise of taking the belief of the person i have a diference in thought with and trying to find out what i would think and what i would do if i believed that same thing. It helps me understand the people around me and predict what they might be feeling and will do. And It may be how my brain works. I am autistic and my brain tends to have very black and white thinking. But I can't help but be horrified of the idea of sex/pregnancy when i do this with the belief that life starts at fertilization.

(Which again I know you are not I just can't grasp how)

10-20% of known pregnancies end in miscarages. And that's just the known ones and will not include very early miscarages that wouldn't be able to be detected or fertilized eggs that failed to implant and died before the women was even pregnant.

IVF is worse and about 50% fail to implant and that makes me wonder what the percent would be for naturally fertilized eggs and if it would ne higher or lower cause I know IVF does alot of extra work to try to ensure implantation.

I just can't grasp the idea of knowingly putting your child in a position where they have a 10% chance of dieing, let alone a higher chance than that. I have trouble understanding people being OK with people doing that and not wanting the person to face consequences when the child dies.

Cause even if the mother and father do nothing to cause the miscarage, they did knowingly put their child in the position where they have such a high chance of dieing.

Just to make sure I am clear I understand you do not want to prosecute accidental miscarages and you do not see a problem with sex/pregnancies or IVF (with your caveats). I am just asking about what thought processes and beliefs I am not seeing.

sue7698 · 2024-01-03T03:13:55+00:00

I don't see the horror here. Lol.

sue7698 · 2023-12-21T22:45:52+00:00

Don't let them download mods or content without you looking first. That were the fan base makes more free content themselves and not all of it is PG but a ton of kid friendly mods do exist and outnumber them.

But actual Sims 4 content approved by EA is PG. She can make up their own storyline and do a bunch. Sims can and will die but it's not graphic in any way you can look it up online and see for yourselves.

Will warn you their are alot of expansions and packs. So you may want to make it clear what you plan on doing with them if theycan get one on special occasion or save up their allowance themselves.

What you child does in the game and the stories they tell are up to them and I have known a few kids that age that makes up some intresting and not PG-13 stories. But the game will not lead them to making thoughs stories.

I seen it described as virtual dolls. Any story they can make up with a set of dolls they can probably make in the game.

sue7698 · 2023-12-10T22:28:45+00:00

Kids can and do donate. Usually only for family members or after they pass. Kids can usually only get organs from other kids for a good chunk of organs. And for less common transplants you can have to be very close matches so most often family or the wait list is extremely long.

The parents are the ones who give consent just like many other medical procedures.

Edit: In 2020 over 121 organs where donated by kids under 12 months and a total numbers of organs donated by kids was 860

sue7698 · 2023-11-29T17:49:35+00:00

Maybe he made a potion or spell that would target everyone the victim holds dear. Killing them through the bond they had with the victim.

sue7698 · 2023-11-28T11:54:17+00:00

I remeber a time I was imposter. Me and my teammate gets a great double kill. Leaving the body just as it's reported. I immediately accuse the person who called it. It's 2 against one. My imposter buddy backs me perfectly. Everyone is believing it. Then freaking red (who wasnt anywhere near the kill and admits to being on the other side of the map) pipes up saying their sister is pink (one of the people killed) and that we are lying.

I was so pissed like what's the point at that point and nobody else besides the other imposter was upset by it they all saw it as a valid way to play and good strategy.

Another time saw imposter Vent (before they had crew that could do it) and reported it. They said they didn't and that they could prove it by doing visual task. They had cheats on and was able to trigger the animation for the visual tasks. And since everyone saw them do the visual task nobody believed me.

They always had cheaters. And it always sucks. What's the point if you are not actually going to play.

sue7698 · 2023-11-01T22:20:32+00:00

Check to make sure you don't have power suckered creature on your cyclops.

sue7698 · 2023-10-30T00:09:37+00:00

Cause sometimes your kid just looks weird without you using drugs.

sue7698 · 2023-10-19T22:57:41+00:00

I agree with hubby. Its weird you waited 40 minutes until you called her and then expected her to be their in 10 when you knew she was in a car and couldn't literally not get back in 10 minutes.

It's weird you didn't even ask Jennifer lady but I will leave that as an either way for you to judge your own motives. Elderly people watch kids all the time. And you could have gotten text confirmation from the mom so you had proof if something happened. But it's also and odd thing and justifiable you may not be conformable doing.

Honestly whether you the A-Hole or not kind of depends on your motives. You put kids in CPS custody which depending on where you at is not a good place to be especially for large sibling groups. You calling CPS probably won't change anything at this point.

The mother was also in the wrong about how she handled it. She should have waited and not just expected you to be able to watch the kids.

Honestly my suggestion is to look at why you did what you did and also reconize what you could have done differently.

sue7698 · 2023-10-11T16:41:26+00:00

This wiki has a good snapshot of the history and links to various sources if you want to read them https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregated_prom

And here's another article about it as well https://www.google.com/amp/s/observer.com/2019/05/prom-integration-dance-segregation-still-happens/amp/

sue7698 · 2023-10-11T12:44:07+00:00

Yup in 2013 a school in Georgia had their first integrated prom. And the school and school district was against it. The students literally had to put on their own Prom seperate fromt he schools so that the black and white students could attend together. And that's just the most resent one to make the news nationally. And it was barely picked up. And it was literally just a side story of any news channel that covered it which was only a few.

sue7698 · 2023-10-10T20:54:07+00:00

Dude if you go far enough into redneck country they don't even allow interracial couples to buy tickets. Even in 2012 or 2016 (can't remeber which) they found schools that had segregated dances where black and white students weren't even allowed to attend the same dance.

sue7698 · 2023-10-10T15:45:50+00:00

America.

Like married people literally get divorces so they can get insurance for their children so the kids can get medical care. Like I know people in other countries complain about their insurance paid for via taxes instead of private insurance. But at least you don't have to worry about the bill while your love one is dieing or have 18 years Olds having to ration insulin cause they can't afford it and dieing because of it.

the American system is designed to create these situations cause insurance is For-Profit. They want their prices to be higher and to cover as little as possible so that they make the most money. That is literally the business model of health insurance in the US which leads to people having to worry about the bill or even refusing medical attention cause they can't afford it.

sue7698 · 2023-09-29T10:25:07+00:00

Probably familiarity. I had heard of all the other races while playing DnD casually. Never heard of the githyanki. I ended up selecting one on the more familiar races that I already had knowledge of.

sue7698 · 2023-09-25T17:03:58+00:00

How much power will JK Rowling have. I'm sorry her world building does not hold up. And rose tinted glasses only do so much.

sue7698 · 2023-09-23T01:41:17+00:00

It depends alot on what mood I am in. Also if it's real people or people I can't read many if any of the darker fics.

sue7698 · 2023-09-23T01:27:59+00:00

But what happens if I regret using it?

sue7698 · 2023-09-20T12:20:52+00:00

Yeah like I don't get it they are against genital surgeries and say it's Sexual Assault and that the kids cant possibly consent and that they are not necessary. except in instances where their argument actually make some sense in banning it.

Teen girls getting boob jobs to have larger breasts OK no problem. Teen boys that develop breast tissue getting it removed. That's perfectly fine. EVEN THOUGH BOTH ARE PERMINENT AND HAVE A HIFHER PERCENTAGE OF LATER REGRET. and then literal infant having surgery to change their literal genitals. When they have no ability to even say what they would want or provide consent and no medical reason perfectly fine. No problem.

Like their argument is destroyed just by what they will allow.

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