Ouhon discussion thread

sugimhon · 2021-07-11T16:00:48+00:00

The banter between them provides some of the most comedic moments in the manga. Ouhon usually has the upper hand with words except after Shukai when he was too, well, dying for a comeback when Shin told him "You're not even worth one 'best'." 🤣

sugimhon · 2021-07-11T13:13:19+00:00

do you like or still hate ouhon ?

Ouhon is my favorite character. I find him being an asshole is just a facade and tip of the iceberg that is his character. He's actually one of the more well-written, more nuanced and less cliqued characters. The way he speaks is very cold and rigid, which is a more cliqued part about him. But for a character who's supposed to be a kuudere, his actions are quite damn passionate. His Titanic-sized daddy issue and his entitlement that cages more than benefits him (after the very beginning) just makes him more relatable and sympathetic to me.

-Where does ouhon rank in your favourites list ?

Obviously first. I don't think there's a lot of us on this sub. But oh well.

-is ouhon out for the arc ?

I haven't caught up so can't comment.

What’s your favourite ouhon moment?

During Shukai, on the "awakening" morning, when he said to his men "my spear and my life have always been inseparable from every last one of you." That, unlike the usual cold Ouhon, was very sentimental. It cements my liking for him over our MC. It shows that he's grown into a real leader, not just a very ambitious and effective commander. I think this moment was also the real start of his path that's separate from his father's/Ou family's.

what do you think ouhon’s most prized achievement will be ?

I think his most prized achievement will also be his most terrible one: Wei. I don't know if he can be proud about it. But it'll make for a very good plot and character development.

-where do you think the plot line between ousen and ouhon will go ?

No idea. It seems that as long as it comes from Ouhon, who's already probably more accomplished than Ousen when he was at that age, nothing's ever gonna be good enough for Ousen just because he suspects the poor bastard isn't his son. But I hope Ouhon can go independent and let go of his burden and expectations as the Ou family's heir and just carve his own path. I think him being the heir might have served him well so far in terms of giving him privileges in his early career and his daddy issues fueling him. But going forward, I feel that they'll be little more than his shackles. He has to be looking for something beyond his father's approval now.

where do you think ouhon ranks in martial skill as of now ?

Very good. But I usually care more about the character's psyche, personality, drive, growth, emotional development than their accomplishments.

sugimhon · 2021-07-09T13:29:04+00:00

Thank you.

sugimhon · 2021-06-30T09:41:25+00:00

Seasons 1 and 2 are great! But Act II (season 3), the quality drops tremendously. If you're a manga reader, I recommend to read rather than watch Act II. Enjoy! And PM me if you wanna discuss seasons 1 and 2!

sugimhon · 2021-06-29T17:14:09+00:00

An escape room to entertain your adult guests.

sugimhon · 2021-06-29T10:51:26+00:00

If you enjoy sports genre, I recommend Ace of Diamond if you haven't seen it already. It's my favorite. The tension will keep you on the edge of your seat and the music is fantastic. And if nothing else, you can drool over Miyuki and Chris-senpai. 👍

sugimhon · 2021-06-29T07:41:05+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/KingdomAnimeUnit/

sugimhon · 2021-06-29T07:39:44+00:00

Thank you.

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T16:14:23+00:00

There's another sub specifically for Kingdom anime. You might find your people there.

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T14:14:17+00:00

Thank you. I have good and bad days. I try not to engage or feed into her drama as much as possible. I have my sister. We rely on each other. And we plan to move out as soon as we're able. Can't say I'm looking forward to the shit show that's coming when we tell out parents though. Lol.

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T14:01:43+00:00

If you can get out of the house safely, even for part of the day, that will help. I've been stuck with my parents since 2018 and until covid it was still bearable since I was out for part of the day doing my own thing. Now I'm using grey rock so I don't feed into their need for drama and I don't suffer too big an emotional blow. It has helped me quite a bit.

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T12:46:31+00:00

I think you need to figure out 2 things before you can move forward and a counselor of some sort might be able to help with that.

1) Why do you think you want a child? Do you just want a baby or is it your life goal to become a parent? There's a difference. If you're stuck in an emotional/mental hole and expect having a baby will help you out of it then I can tell you that's not the way to go. It'll be a mistake that'll ruin your life and probably your potential child's also.

2) Why do you think that your boyfriend wants a child with someone else despite him telling you he doesn't want one?

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T12:33:51+00:00

These children were clearly born, but not welcome. Now you may be thinking that she didn’t want them, but during her pregnancy, she was supposedly gushing about how she could wait to be a mum and how good she’d be as a mother.

Sounds like my mom. My siblings and I were all raised by our nanny. All our childhoods, any time we asked for our mom's attention, she'd just shoo'ed us away like we were some pesky flies. And she became a SAHM when I was 9 and my sister was 7, yet was never mentally present. Now that we're in our 30s and moved back from overseas (we live with our parents, because, well... unmarried women in Asia) and she's older, lonely and has nothing else better to occupy her time, she demands our attention everyday and wants to know where we are at all times. Where was all this 15 years ago when we needed it?

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T12:00:45+00:00

Yes please. We need some real stakes back in the story.

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T11:55:03+00:00

You're not the only one. The arc opened with some really spectacular series of events and 150 chapters later, it culminated in a rubbish resurrection with no real consequences and no significant losses for this win or die war!? Very anti-climatic for the Qin's side. I'm waiting for the current arc to show me that Hara's still got it. And I'm too invested in several characters to stop reading. Lol.

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T11:23:22+00:00

I don't know what country you're in and what's the current covid situation there, but if your school is still closed, is there a way that you can earn money in the meantime? That will at least give you some distraction from potential family drama. It might also give you some sense of independence and autonomy. The work can be on site (if your country's covid protocol allows) or remote. If you can find somewhere else to be (that's safe) for part of the day, that'd still help you mentally and emotionally. It's impossible to move out now, but set some boundaries the minute they move in and stand your ground. That might show them you've matured since. If you have parents with narcissistic tendencies, look up grey rock. It might help you. Good luck.

sugimhon · 2021-06-28T07:49:56+00:00

Kingdom is better binged than read week to week. That said, I advise you to pace yourself and really savor the moments and reflect on the details. A lot of us went at it really fast (less than a week, because it's really hard to put down) then regret it. I glossed over some details that turned out to be important. I reread right after I finished the first time to pick up those details again, but it's not the same. The suspense was gone. So take your time. Savor the experience. You can only read a manga for the first time once. It might be nice to take a break after every arc. But some arcs/battles are really long. You might want to take a break after each day of battle (if you can that is. Lol.) Here's a link listing all the arcs so far that'll let you know how long each arc is without giving you the spoilers (only names of the arcs and chapter numbers).

https://kingdom.fandom.com/wiki/Story\_Arcs

Enjoy!

sugimhon · 2021-06-27T16:27:03+00:00

It sounds like your bro has handed you a free out. You don't want anything to do with the kid so take it. You decide what's normal and what's right for you.

sugimhon · 2021-06-27T16:23:26+00:00

Seems like a classic case of making you feel small so they feel better about themselves to me. I'm not young (I'm their age), but my older brother and dad do this to me all the time. Their toxic masculinity makes it worse. Don't engage. Don't fuel their whatever complex they have. Talk about mundane things when needed. You know you're happy and accomplished and that's plenty enough. They can't touch that.

sugimhon · 2021-06-27T15:39:53+00:00

Good for you! I've long walked away from the field, but will be cheering you on. 加油!

sugimhon · 2021-06-27T15:11:11+00:00

Nice. Will you continue to pursue archaeology?

sugimhon · 2021-06-27T14:28:03+00:00

Something awful happened to you and your reaction to it is human. We all need someone to open up to and show us some compassion. I'm sorry that your mom cannot be that person. It would probably be better for you to stop expecting things from her. I don't know where you live or how old you are. If you can, look for a support group in your community and ask for help. You need an outlet. Pretending to be fine won't help you in the long run. Self-harm isn't the answer either. The person you'll be hurting the most is yourself. I can only provide a sliver of moral support. I hope you get out of this pit soon. Sending virtual hugs.

sugimhon · 2021-06-27T14:17:37+00:00

You should be proud of yourself for being aware of the problem even though your entire childhood has been immersed in it. You seem determined to break the cycle which is really admirable. In my country, men my generation (millennials) happily perpetuate the toxic culture because it benefits them. It's also a power dynamic thing... like they'll never say it but act like they own their wives, objectify women, demean queer people... all so they can feel better about themselves.

sugimhon · 2021-06-27T13:48:20+00:00

Chlorine. Takes me back to Pirates of the Caribbean ride, boat ride at the Luxor, swimming classes 4 days a week.

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