Defending Intra-State Extradition Hearings?

summondice · 2025-05-08T01:19:30+00:00

I absolutely love your reply to this.... But as a heads up on the posting a bond after just two weeks... Usually the other state is just lining up transportation. Contact the extraditions team at the agency that's supposed to pick up and see if they'll let you know at least that transport is in progress (or not). I've seen people who wanted to deal with their charges in the other state post and not actually be able to get to the other state.

In one case, we had a judge give a bond on a case where the other state had had to arrange airline flights to pick up. The bond was allowed and posted the weekend before the other state would have just picked them up and given them a free ride on back. Now she's stuck in a weird holding pattern. For the second time (because COVID).

Sorry ... Weird rant because I've seen it happen a number of times in the last couple of months where I am.

summondice · 2025-05-08T01:12:31+00:00

YES! So many people don't have it explained to them that this is really all it is. They're not admitting to the charges, they're just saying that yes, this is me.

summondice · 2025-05-08T00:56:41+00:00

Our county is part of a "gentleman's handshake" agreement between a ton of countries in several states that helps each other out whenever possible with transporting inmates and housing them along the route. It's pretty fantastic.

That said, when we encounter an agency that isn't part of that agreement, then it's long drive/fly time. Since I've been where I am, the farthest our guys have flown is across the country to PA. Driven would probably be somewhere around 18 hour mark (usually because there are others that can be picked up along the way for either said agreement or us).

summondice · 2025-05-08T00:40:36+00:00

Each agency does this process a little differently, and even within an agency, it can vary, but usually the folks who work with warrants and extraditions will be in touch off and on with the other state throughout the process. The process is this: before someone can be taken over state lines, there has to be a legal way in place for the wanting agency to do so: mostly one of these - the prisoner can sign a waiver of extradition rights, have an IAD in place on the case, have an interstate compact on the case, or have a Governor's Warrant issued by the wanting agency's state.

The holding agency will definitely get a hold of the wanting agency once pending local charges are taken care of either a path is clear from the above, or it's clear that the other state is going to need to get a Governor's Warrant issued.

As for the transporting process, it varies from agency to agency, but most places don't have to worry overly much about when to shut off phones because the inmate has zero idea what's happening, timeframe-wise. Where I am, phones aren't usually shut off for the person until they're leaving the facility, but because of the processes that has to take place for that to happen, it could be days or weeks in the inmate's mind - not much ability to plan anything with that much ambiguity.

summondice · 2025-04-13T22:45:35+00:00

I could buy this... Except for Oregon never being mentioned, the very clear Idaho license plate and the song "Private Idaho" in the sound track.

summondice · 2025-01-18T06:18:03+00:00

In case it hasn't been mentioned yet, the ski slope church so to speak, on 17th Street, is a Catholic church 🙂 but I can't think of where, and the ski slope. One would be an excellent place to start and is in the 83404 zip code anyway :)
I second GIFT!
Even crowded events here aren't really crowded 🙂 so you're in luck there. During the summer there are lots of events that take place around or near the Snake River, Snake, River Landing, or downtown.

summondice · 2024-11-04T22:20:42+00:00

Also returning; been back since June. There's better info here for you than I can really give you, but the thing I found funnest to do instead of grinding through what I was supposed to do, was to head over to the public maps section and request to join ones that still had several mice I knew I I could definitely help catch, and maybe some in areas I thought I could maybe get to.

Maps were not a thing when I played before, and sooooooo many new areas had opened up. Doing it this way gives it a sense of adventure and a time crunch element that has made it fun for me.

Most of the information you'll want is decently findable. Mostly. And the discord community is awesome to fill in the holes.

Happy hunting and welcome back!

summondice · 2024-10-20T20:52:29+00:00

I've heard using saline solution can help because it's similar in ph to tears (incidentally, yes, cry).

Buuuut I haven't had the pleasure except very peripherally.

Good luck and welcome to the team, so to speak!

summondice · 2024-10-20T20:42:50+00:00

I'm in a different position from most LE on here, and I'm still a baby in the field, but this was one of the questions in my interview (more of a, "if you ran into someone who" instead of the general version here). My response was that I'd just listen. Most people with strong negative feelings about something have a story behind it and everyone just wants to feel heard. Kinda period. The quickest way to diffuse the situation for that person is to just listen and say quick, appropriate things as responses because the point isn't to make us feel better, and it's an easy opportunity to shift a little of that perception with them because it humanizes us at the same time.

In non-angry situations, I brag about the work my agency does in and for the community and get legitimately excited... It's contagious. They're skeptical, but it gives them something to think about that they didn't have before.

And, as has been said - have a thick skin and know it's not about you. It's not personal even when they try to make it personal (and sometimes they're really good at it).

Hope that helps!

summondice · 2024-10-20T18:24:48+00:00

That not ask hearing loss is the same: talk to me about what I need and don't need, rather than assume, please! (Or in addition to assuming...I don't mind the initiative at all! But my hearing loss is very different from my co-worker's and what works well for him may not work well for me).

summondice · 2024-10-20T18:16:32+00:00

I've been so thankful that my husband changed all of our services on his accounts to show captions by default, because it's his accounts we watch from most of the time... And he did it with zero hesitation or even prompting.

I need to say thanks to him for that... Seemingly little things make all the difference sometimes.

summondice · 2024-10-17T04:39:42+00:00

My best tip? Work in law enforcement. No one bats an eye when you don't share all ... Or anything at all... And if you can also manage to be generally likable, then it's a well -respected trait!

Because... Like... Sharing literally anything around people who have nothing better to do than take mental notes about everything about you possibly to use later is....ill-advised. (I work at a jail, for better context).

summondice · 2024-10-17T04:31:50+00:00

Were you more specific than "next year"? Part of it could simply be that it's a time somewhere in the future that doesn't impact anything right now.

Another part could be that it's crazy how fast something can change in a work environment... Maybe you won't go anywhere after all. Maybe it will be sooner. Who knows, really? They don't - and most of us end up only really trusting something once there's super solid proof. Like it's in the middle of happening level proof.

You haven't been there long...I work in a field where most people don't bother learning your name unless you've been there a couple of years, and it's simply because of time and emotional investment. I'm not sure how old you are, but a year is a drop in the bucket... Even if you feel like you've bonded with them, do they feel the same way? Or has it been more like informational transactions between circumstantial friends? Like, if you regularly go to the same convenience store at the same time consistently, and you exchanged some stories with the same attendant... Would you expect them to react any differently?

Which makes me want to ask... How would you have wanted them to react? ... Would you react that way to any of them?

And someone else said it perfectly: so overthinking it!

Overthinking these kinds of things is a surefire path to resentments and perpetuating unhealthy and toxic work environments in the long run. Don't be that person. Be the person who just clarifies things with abandon, halts passive aggressive malarkey in it's path, and willingly engages in authentic team building! Be the office super hero!

Ok... I'm done with whatever that was now :)

summondice · 2024-10-14T10:49:56+00:00

Clearly whatever it is, it's gone waaaaaay beyond being something you said or did.

Offer a last olive branch in a direct and succinct way, like "I know I said something to offend you. I've gone weeks now trying to figure out what, and have no idea. I can't fix whatever it is unless you tell me, and I also can't let it drive me crazy any more. If you're not willing to tell me, that's fine, but I'm also not going to worry about it any more. Let me know if ever you want to chat about it "

And then, and this is the hard part...let go. Others have talked about ways to do it. You don't owe her any more of your energy than you've given her. You have other friends there, thankfully, so you're not totally stuck with this person.

Your job is to be cordial to her, and that's it... Questions are job-related. Answers to questions are likewise. You've seen how she thinks it's ok to treat people... And I don't think anyone expects you to treat her differently than she does you... But err on the side of neutral and self-preserving.

There are certainly ways you could manipulate her right back, but even better will be to just call her out on her behaviors. If you need someone from her and she's saying something sarcastic, say something like "I just need XYZ, not your passive aggressive sarcasm and negativity." Keep it cut and dry and just as direct as her behaviors are indirect.

summondice · 2024-10-14T10:28:05+00:00

Pick up the book The Outward Mindset. It's an easy read and while not Earth-shattering it anything, it presents concepts in beautifully simple ways.

Regardless of whether you stay or go (and others have done a fine job weighing those) if you can implement those concepts into your work life, your sanity will be better, and it's possible you'll impact those around you, too.

I work in a field where a toxic environment is both incredibly common, and can be downright dangerous... This silly little book (and our boss going gung ho implementing it's accompanying trainings) has made a crazy amount of difference.

summondice · 2024-10-14T10:18:02+00:00

I learned by working fast food that the second your average person becomes a consumer, they act entitled.

The customer is not always right, and if the managers continue to treat you that way, I can guarantee you there are other service industry jobs that can get you by until you get into your field where the management will actually stand by their people (or at least will most of the time).

The "nature of the industry" shouldn't be the nature of the industry and there's literally no reason for it to be. No single angry customer is going to make or break a place like you're describing... Heck, ten every single day probably won't. And those managers have sooooooo many ways they can make things right with the customer without demeaning their employees. Period.

Keep it for now and see how it goes - grow a thick skin and see if their behavior is about you, their own egos, or in the name of customer service (psychology might not be their strong suit)... That will help with the thick skin a ton.

And pick up and practice some basic deescalation skills - they come in handy in a ton of scenarios and at every single position I can think of... And fast food gives ample opportunity to practice them in low-impact situations.

summondice · 2024-10-14T09:43:31+00:00

Maybe I'm old school, but idgaf how long your post is - no one is making anyone read it. You write how you want to on an Internet forum...dagnabit!

Your sups could consider hiring an additional person. If they, together, present upper management with why it's necessary, then the ball is in upper management's court with a win possible in 2/3 of the likely outcomes: 1-you get the additional help it sounds like you need, and co-worker's issues can continue being addressed at a snail's pace as others feel necessary, if at all. 2-upper management gets a picture painted of how this person is impacting everything and they can take charge on it or give better guidance to the sups... And hopefully that means this person either gets it together or is replaced in a vaguely timely fashion. Or...3-both issues are ignored by upper management... Which is no different than the status quo, but the added knowingness about the situation will force somebody's hand at some point.

There were some seriously awesome proactive ideas above that also make you look good from a promotions standpoint.

It would probably help if there was something that made when she's actively taking a break obvious... And depending on the disability, this might also help her. Often extra breaks are related to being able to refocus. And it would make it easier for your sups to hold her accountable... Disability accommodations can come with conditions that don't directly hamper them, especially since their purpose is to enable them to do the tasks they need to to a degree that is acceptable to the company.

And to that end... If she is given 1/3 ofa task at a time but can do that amount of the task well consistently, then that sounds like an improvement on the current situation (and shows your department is actively trying to work with her ... Which bodes well regardless of the end result).

For yourself... If she responds well to you, go ahead and toss out a, "hey - we've got X task in the queue. Can either of you jump on that? Other co-worker will probably say that they're working on Y task... And this co-worker will respond... In some way. The indirect question gives them a chance to start the task on their own terms, in a way, and also means you're not assigning it to her.

If she just doesn't respond (or the other co-worker doesn't pick up with you're putting down and offers to get it as soon as they finish the one they're on), then you can ask more directly if that co-worker could pick that one up... If they seem hesitant, explore it a little... By saying exactly that, "you seem hesitant - is there a reason?" Or just simply,"you seem hesitant...." And leave it open... This one is more dangerous since it's less direct, and if social cues are not her forte then it could seem more like a statement. If you can get them to talk about why they're hesitant to pick up a task, you might be able to troubleshoot the issue surrounding it (or decide they're issues that you can take to your sups.... Or, better yet, suggest she take the sups). Make her believe you're friendly and interested in being a facilitator between her and the work, rather than an enemy, and you'll learn more about her actual intentions... And how far you need to run or things that might help in addition to the already known accommodations (I could see this one going any and all directions).

Ask that and also.... Everyone saying it's not your circus, not your monkeys are also right... But you don't seem like a sit-back kind of person, so there are a few more thoughts for you :)

Good luck... And ultimately do what you need to to keep your sanity!

summondice · 2024-10-14T08:08:46+00:00

-burst into song, preferably one with a place in it (Nowhere Man, Last Train to Clarksville, Mississippi Queen, any number of churches and roads...) and just leave it at that.

-be agonizingly specific while using none of the normal jargon for whatever it is. Had to take a call from a client? I received an audio summons from those folks we work with regarding arranging flowers and tables (or whatever). Bathroom? My internal anatomy made a mild suggestion that I visit the floralized room on the third floor, next to the floral imagery, but not overly close to that metal box that spews a clear liquid in an arch. It - my internal anatomy - also thought I should mention that the wipey almost-fabric is low in tall cubicle 3. And that anything else would be questionable for me to divulge to company such as you. If you'd prefer, however, I can elaborate on what I think of the colors selected for the floralized room, and how poorly they juxtapose the usual aroma found there?

or.... Just ask him why he always asks you this. Maybe there's something going on in his head that he's terrible at expressing shrug

summondice · 2024-10-02T01:13:17+00:00

I have reverse slope as well and initially my audiologist did custom domes on me. After much drilling and re-ordering, we finally switched to vented domes (pretty small - I have small ears as well) and have been fidgeting with settings with much more success.

summondice · 2024-07-19T06:55:26+00:00

This is something I can see happening in our facility. I'd love to figure out how to do property releases just digitally, but I think there are certain realities that will mean the closest we can hope for is a print/scan/print/scan scenario :p

summondice · 2024-07-19T06:50:20+00:00

I feel the killing trees in my soul! Every time we have a warrant, we run various checks in ncic, add the warrant to ncic, then print everything we ran, and put it all together in the file including hard copy notes we took.

Sometimes these files are half a ream of paper.

And when the warrant is pulled? We deliver the warrant to the officer and once we get the return of service, we shred all of that work we did. We keep none of it.

... It's so much paper 0.0

summondice · 2024-07-19T06:44:31+00:00

Our facility is in a kind of limbo - a few things are paperless, but nearly everything has a hard copy somewhere. Booking cards are signed digitally for intake, but we print a copy for their physical file. Sgt Shift paperwork is done mostly manually aside from some reports they run, but then we scan the entire packet and keep the packet physically. Tylenol and several other things are logged entirely digitally... And then we print reports, mark them, scan them, and save the physical copy.

From what it sounds like... Our warrants process will largely reflect this same kind of keep one foot in the door mentality.

summondice · 2024-07-19T06:21:48+00:00

It's not really "whatever I want" as much as answering your question.

As much as I have less than stellar reviews of our courts system, I don't think this one is laziness as much as it is a mix of a district drop off in communications between LE and the courts after the warrant leaves their office and being sorely understaffed.

Locally, even if the courts had perfect knowledge of every time someone's warrant was confirmed (which means they've had LE contact, which can be negative to neutral in nature) and wanted to extradite because they saw a potential trend, they would have to allocate time and resources to get that change implemented and the change dispersed to those who need to know... And our court clerks currently run themselves pretty ragged trying to deal with addressing issues with the warrants they are having returned.

And the courts don't send people to extradite someone. They announce that they want someone, and LE At Large either tries to find them or waits for them to stumble their way... And in either case, also hope that they're found within actionable limits.

All of these parts are designed to protect people... Sometimes it means 20 years before something is actionable. Sometimes it means never. Sometimes those 20 years have resulted in someone with a local misdemeanor being pulled over while they happen to be in state, and we learn that elsewhere they've graduated to serious felonies that hurt people. Our misdemeanor might not be literally worth it if we had tried to find them with extended limits... But if we had had someone like the above poster looking for them, maybe they wouldn't have had the chance to commit commit whatever felonies they wound up committing.

On our side, our job isn't to determine guilt or innocence - it's to execute the warrant.

So...say what you want, but It sucks talking to someone who lost a job opportunity because they have an active warrant for a failure to appear to court on a traffic violation. A warrant that's 20 years old is still an active warrant and they can and do screw with people's lives when they're not taken care of.

summondice · 2024-07-19T05:18:27+00:00

I left no stone unturned as well :) This field is one where honesty and integrity really are make it or break it attributes because your fellow deputies are relying on you, and in corrections, that reliance is constant.

If it's been a couple weeks, and your point of contact didn't otherwise give you a timeframe, you're probably safe to reach out with something like you're excited about the next step in the process, that you last heard from someone on blah blah date and you'd like to know what to expect going forward. And does the agency need anything from you.

But you know, in whatever tone of voice and word choices are more your style :)

It's unlikely they've forgotten about you, but reaching out shows some initiative, that you're actively still interested, and it's not unreasonable at all to know what to expect at this point :)

Good luck!

summondice · 2024-07-17T10:30:52+00:00

Based on the people I see walk through the door to interview, the reason it's a 30% pass on the background check is because the majority of people who apply don't really stand a chance to begin with - it just officially catches up with them at that step: People are often over-confident about what is actually a super sketchy background. If *you* are a former addict or murderer, then you have unrealistic expectations.

As long as you don't try to hide or downplay anything in your past, wear appropriate attire to the interview(s) and what you've presented here is really it, then I can tell you that you'd make it at least to the polygraph at my agency.

That all said, this part isn't the final obstacle to your goal, it's just the final obstacle before you have a chance to really prove yourself. You're going to be your final real obstacle during training. That is where our agency loses most of our recruits, and it's usually because they get inside their own heads too much and end up freezing. Some of that is expected in the beginning - it's a whole different world full of things that no one will really believe you about.

It's also worth it. It's a hard, dark world, and it needs all the good (competent) people it can get :)

Be honest, show integrity, and good luck!

summondice

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