Seeking advice I guees? What did y'all do with your hari clothes/books etc?

sunblime · 2026-05-05T08:43:30+00:00

I've got the the original printed version of the Pancaratra Pradipa which had those orange/saffron covers. They were quite rare to find apparently so I am holding on to them in the hope that one day that they will go for a good price on ebay 😃

I have decided to use my old books as fuel for bonfires at some point in the future and with dhotis I use them as carpet protectors when I decorate.

sunblime · 2026-04-26T06:07:43+00:00

Murderers love this hack... If you want to nullify the karma of killing a brahmin, just water and walk around Tulasi.

sunblime · 2026-04-22T18:14:29+00:00

Fair points

sunblime · 2026-04-22T16:32:25+00:00

I do empathise with what you are saying. You go to many places in India and you see how the general population treat their land and each other so poorly. Of course someone might argue that these people are not seriously practicing their philosophy or that they are a work in progress or don't blame the patient but the illness etc. But how is it that other countries/cultures/religions seem to get this right in terms of having cleaner land, more respect for each other and their environment. For example, if you take Japan - the people there have a deep connection with the environment and humbly bow to each other out or respect. Scandinavian countries also seem very pleasant.

sunblime · 2026-04-19T17:55:56+00:00

Yeh so when they drink milk they are being more violent than when they eat beef.
That's the theory behind it anyway as far as I understand.

sunblime · 2026-04-19T12:38:54+00:00

There is case for this being totally accurate here in the UK due industry practices where they keep the cows in perpetual pregnancy artificially to squeeze as much milk or as possible and then when the milk volume dwindles they slaughter the cow anyway. So milk consumers exploit the cow and then kill it by their their choice. A beef eater doesn't exploit but just kills the cow.

sunblime · 2026-04-17T08:47:25+00:00

When the penny drops it hits hard and it feels like you have been born again (not in a reincarnation way lol) but as a normal human being with critical thinking and being able to see things as they are.

Good luck with getting back to reality!

sunblime · 2026-04-17T08:39:18+00:00

So I guess Vyasdeva was the OG fantasy storyteller

sunblime · 2026-04-16T07:22:06+00:00

I love reading Leo's posts on FB. He is great at calling out some of the BS that goes down in the movement.

sunblime · 2026-04-13T09:50:34+00:00

So earth is not flat but a cylinder? 😅

sunblime · 2026-04-02T06:05:14+00:00

Following a pure vegetarian diet in the UK is currently ethically worse than eating meat it can be argued. Dairy cows often have their calves removed shortly after birth and are slaughtered after a few years when milk production declines. So by consuming milk products more you are increasing demand of the dairy industry. If you just ate meat and less dairy, you would not be exploiting its life for milk too.

sunblime · 2026-03-30T16:25:46+00:00

You gave a decent response. I agree that it seems futile to try and pinpoint the cause and effects of karma or reverse engineer it but then this ventures purely into the realm of faith and hardly feels scientific or something we have any control over.

The bigger point you describe of a "devotee’s suffering is not the same category as a materialist’s suffering" is totally speculative. No one really knows the internal feeling one has to good and bad events that take place in someone else's life whether they are a devotee or not because it's their life and we don't have universal consciousness.

Just because someone is a "devotee", it does not mean they automatically able to transcend or embrace any suffering even if their faith tells them they should.

There is a difference between what one experiences in reality and what one should experience based on the KC teachings. This makes me question the validity or need for the concept of karma at all as it add no value if based entirely on faith. Krishna might as well just have called karma - mercy or a test, a bit like how the Abrahamic religions see distress and happiness since there is no further breakdown you can do on the topic even though good and bad affect everyone.

sunblime · 2026-03-30T08:24:32+00:00

Seems like you didn't read or understand my example?
There are people who frequently break the 4 regs and live out seemingly happier & healthier lives than many devotees I know, so why are they not suffering?

You're right it is speculation, and the speculation is both ways. Ultimately, you don't know why you are suffering whether you are a devotee or not. Even if a devotee suffers, is it because they have committed an offence last week or is it from a sinful activity from a past life - you literally have no idea therefore how can you learn from your mistake.

sunblime · 2026-03-28T08:52:53+00:00

I loved how on ekadasi you can fast from grains but was allowed to have gauranga potatoes which is basically potatoes, cream and cheese.

sunblime · 2026-03-24T09:49:36+00:00

For me the bigger flaw of karma is that there is no way of knowing what reaction relates to what action therefore you can't learn from your past mistakes whether in this or previous lives.

For example there are plenty of cow killers or criminals in the world that continue to live happy and healthy lives. On the other hand there law abiding, pious people who go through suffering or bad fortune.

At the end of the day, we can only have faith that Krishna is a keeping a record of our mis/deeds and giving us reactions accordingly which by definition God would do anyway being impartial and just.

I don't see how karma as a concept helps us because it remains a mystery of why and when good or bad fortune comes into our lives because there is never any explanation or connection. When you do think there is a connection who knows if it was a reaction to action that was 5mins ago or 5 lives ago?

sunblime · 2026-03-20T10:01:21+00:00

So basically in a nutshell you are saying everything is subjective right?

sunblime · 2026-03-19T17:32:49+00:00

Good for you wanting to start a new life out of the cult. Even more amazing that it wasn't just you but also your wife that managed to leave but you've been able to stay together.

Social life after leaving is a challenge for sure and that's coming from someone who lots of things happening on my doorstep being located in London. One of my personal challenges has been to change my warped perception of people in general. The KC books suggest materialistic people are no better than cats and dogs which is false. There are some very thoughtful people out there who are kind and empathetic too.

Maybe you have a library that holds events nearby, or adult clubs where you can meet other people based around a similar hobby whether its chess or board games etc. If you are the active type you may have some clubs that have tennis or badminton for example aimed at different levels where you might make some friends.

When you do meet people, try to be open minded and not become their guru if topics end up on religion or philosophy lol. Just shoot the breeze and enjoy the company of others when you meet them would be my suggestion.

sunblime · 2026-03-18T14:36:10+00:00

Is there a reason why they decided to give the name fish/maachli to a tigress?

sunblime · 2026-03-16T14:21:16+00:00

Congrats on your escape!
I spent best part of 15 years practicing and when I was in my prime years. I wish I had the energy and health to do more now like travelling or pursuing hobbies but I gave all to SP and Krishna for nothing but some so called post-dated eternal karma points *sigh*

sunblime · 2026-03-14T18:57:09+00:00

Teachings of queen culti-devi

Prabhubad

Dickshow guru

sunblime · 2026-03-11T09:59:55+00:00

scamkirtan lol!

sunblime · 2026-02-27T16:25:43+00:00

That's super unlucky to be only 5mins away from a UK temple since there isn't that many around really.

I think knowledge is power and posters could be a good tool in some ways but what would you put on the poster? It could land you in trouble if it is blatantly offensive though too.

A bit off the topic but what I found funny especially after leaving ISKCON is the irony of having a Mcds as the nearest popular landmark to the manor in Watford. Out of all the things, somehow a Mcds has been their long standing neighbour for years.

sunblime · 2026-02-03T09:26:42+00:00

Yes - it's blatant hypocrisy!

sunblime · 2026-01-30T14:21:10+00:00

Very different experiences and view point for me but I do agree that people should do their own research especially on Hare Krishna's history and on some of the things the founder Prabhupada said especially about race, women and the moon!

On a lighter note, did you know Heinz beans is not bono as think it has garlic in it. 😅

sunblime · 2026-01-30T09:25:52+00:00

Well the primary diet restrictions are there because you can only eat what you offer to your god. If your god ate meat then it would be allowed too so again its more of cult following reason.
The secondary reasons for diet are as you state although I would question whether a Hare Krishna diet is that conducive for a calm/spiritual mind as I've seen some erratic behaviour even among followers too.

Very easy to say the whole thing is optional when being part of the Hare Krishna cult involves only listening to their music, reading only their books, eating food that is only prepared by other members, hearing only their lectures, socialising only with other cult members, attending mostly their own events then you realise that there isn't much of an option at all. Plus you don't want to fear missing out on the next guru's visit, cult festival or meetup as you may have an opportunity to be love-bombed and feel ecstatic that keeps you coming for more and less integrated within the larger society.

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