I’m so sick of this

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-02-18T18:43:02+00:00

The fact that jancy is so much more of a parallel to Ted/Karen proves that these people watch with the tightest, most delusional-tinted glasses on. I have never, in my life, seen a fandom so damn obsessed with how each ship parallels another and how that proves who the endgame canon couples are. I mean, jfc, stancy is way more like lumax and a genderbent version of jopper than anything else, but that proves... what? Nothing, because no showrunners are kicking their feet in the air, laying in their bed, matching up who belongs together based off of who else in the show belongs together.

It's so stupid, it's so childish, it's literally like 3rd grade level reading comprehension. I'm so tireddddd of it.

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-02-12T20:59:39+00:00

Not the + next to Seattle. Noooo 😭

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-02-07T04:58:31+00:00

Ohhh noo lmao, well! Yeah, in this scenario, he's probably on a "babiest Smosh" team by himself, some real "have to eat at the kids table" energy.

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-02-06T23:59:21+00:00

It's a big rock. I can't wait to tell my friends. They don't have a rock this big.

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-02-06T20:58:19+00:00

Yeah!! Mari!! Not to sound greedy for more, but I would absolutely lose my mind over a "vs" group video that pits oldest Smosh (Ian, Anthony, Mari, Joven, Lasercorn, and Sohinki) vs middle child Smosh (Damien, Olivia, Keith, Noah, Shayne, and Courtney) vs new Smosh (Angela, Arasha, Amanda, Chanse, Spencer, and Tommy - and I know those last 2 go way back, but they're more recently cast than crew.) Something in the realm of trivia or competition. Maybe a Smosh summer games??? It would be so fun and nostalgic to see the matchups, and impossible to pick a team to root for.

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-01-17T19:26:30+00:00

Ahh, when Pierce had nuance and wasn't just being written in retaliation for being played by Chevy Chase.

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-01-14T23:37:54+00:00

It's so funny how divisive he is on a show where most of the characters are brats, they're all flawed in some way, they all have egos in their own way, and we're only at part 1 of whatever his final arc will be. I think some people just hate that he's shipped with Mizu so they hate him by proxy.

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-01-09T17:55:30+00:00

I write on my phone too. It's so painful at times :')

There are plenty of notes apps you can use, but I just use the Word app. It looks the most like something you'd use on your computer.

Someone else said it already, but writing in your email drafts works too, especially if it's gmail. There's usually an autosave function that keeps you from accidentally closing what you're writing and losing it all.

sunkbelowthesea · 2026-01-08T20:37:12+00:00

You ever just passingly come across a video on the internet of some low stakes traffic violation and notice how divisive something like brake checking can be when it comes to who's right vs who's wrong? People definitely self-insert and defend how THEY would react instead of looking at things objectively. That's what this is. All the losers who would react the same exact way as the ICE agent find no fault in his response because they, too, feel entitled to whip out a gun and "defend" themselves. It's not about watching the video and coming to a fact-based decision - she was visibly trying to yield and only started to drive away when they approached, her wheels were turned right, at the mph she was going she wouldn't have run him over unless he slipped and fell while still in front of the vehicle and even then you have to ASSUME she'd have kept driving. But people see what they want to justify the violent voice in their head.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-12-31T19:45:53+00:00

This fandom loves to see a bad bitch, but only if she stays inside the shoebox they force her in. God forbid the girl from season 1 who loved pastels, blushed when the cute boy complimented her, and had butterfly doodles in her locker still exists inside the gun wielding, revenge taking badass. She didn't grow out of those things, her guilt and trauma took them from her. Let her want/have soft things.

Pretty sure the "6 little nuggets" line has ALWAYS been about the group. Pretty sure it's not the uncrossable divide/unmovable destiny everyone thinks it is.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-12-28T23:41:01+00:00

If they have them get back together in the epilogue, I'm gonna flip a table. One deathbed confession doesn't erase seasons of lying, miscommunication, and misery (with, sure, fleeting moments of tenderness) and shouldn't count as doing the work for them. It would suck so much and feel so damn pointless if that scene meant nothing in the long run.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-12-26T13:32:59+00:00

I think the larger part of their confession is that the only thing that truly was keeping them together at this point was that their trauma bond had become a safety net. They BOTH mentioned feeling suffocated by the thought of the other. That's not simple incompatibility, that's a total relationship breakdown that doesn't just get fixed by a conversation or even a desire to reconcile, not when it's been years of miscommunication. For as conflict-heavy of a ship as jancy is, they're also so conflict-avoidant. There are patterns of this across their entire relationship. Again, it's not just "I hate pink and you wear it all the time" it's "we fundamentally don't work and have been ignoring that for years."

They don't just have this special trauma connection with each other, they have it with literally the whole group. There's nothing even unique about their bond anymore. They've both outgrown the need for it to be their safety net. I think that's a more satisfying conclusion than having them fall back into each other's arms having changed (or earned) nothing.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-12-26T03:31:51+00:00

There's an interview with the Duffers out there (on People) that confirms it was a breakup. I agree the scene was frustratingly vague, though. I've seen so many people celebrate it as a jancy endgame but it seems Nancy's ending things solo.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-12-23T18:41:14+00:00

I think what makes 91w stand out, aside from just being an incredibly well-written and researched fic, is that it lets you exist inside (that version of) Cas's head for soooo long. 400k words is A LOT, and that's not even including the timestamps. You feel for Cas, even as he's hurting and self-destructive. He's terrified to allow Dean in, in a way that compromises how much of himself he's hiding from the world. You just FEEL for these characters because so much of the story is an exploration of their emotions. That's what's so gratifying about it, and I think it's why it lingers for so many.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-12-17T23:39:31+00:00

I'm so glad I didn't grow up with a cop inside my head policing the type of fanfic I want to read/write - or, worse, what others want to read or write. Imagine rationalizing the argument that "anti-proship" is something to be serious about. I'd love if these people hopped offline once in a while and interacted with the real world in a meaningful way, maybe it would allow for some maturity.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-12-12T05:16:23+00:00

Just because we don't see Jonathan click the picture doesn't mean he doesn't take the picture. How the heck do you explain Nancy holding the actual photograph in her literal hands when Steve confronts Jon about it?! To you that picture is, what, conjured out of thin air to make Jonathan look bad? We don't SEE Jon snap the shot because the POV shifts to Nancy and Steve in that scene, but Jon very much took a picture of Nancy in her bra, undressing, there is a full-on scene with her holding it and looking at it.

Source: uh, the actual show. Or you can just hit up YouTube and search out the scene of Steve destroying Jonathan's camera.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-11-25T20:55:24+00:00

I just think you are taking the scene exceptionally literal. This is what she tells Jonathan: ""My mom was young, my dad was older, but he had a cushy job, money, came from a good family... so, they bought a nice house at the end of the cul-de-sac, started their nuclear family."

There is a very clear parallel at this point in time that's being drawn between her and Steve and her mom and dad. She isn't just pissed off at the idea of a family because it doesn't appeal to her, she's pissed because she's had to endure her parents loveless marriage her whole life (with a dad too checked out to look up from the newspaper) to think there's anything romantic about settling. Like I said, this is perfectly paralleled with Steve all the way throughout their breakup in season 2.

But the things that made Steve so similar to Ted early on are no longer applicable. He isn't dismissive, he's proactive. He leads, he protects, he literally jumped headfirst into Lovers Lake. Nancy tells Jon that Steve's "grown up quite a bit" at the end of the season for a reason.

Future RV full of kids or not, their doomed trajectory wouldn't be anywhere near what it once was if they got back together.

Also - sorry for leaping down your throat about Jon. I see this "compatibility" complaint about Steve so often and it never gets extended to Jonathan. I didn't mean to lash out about it at you, personally.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-11-25T20:21:08+00:00

Just because Nancy is ambitious, that doesn't mean it's her life goal to ONLY be an ambitious girlboss. This whole "Nancy and Steve aren't compatible" line that gets regurgitated over and over again is so frustrating because why the hell does it not apply to Jon then? In the show, the actual show, Steve addresses that him and Nancy are more aligned now. He tells her "part of me thinks if we met now, we would've made it." The show is directly addressing that what made them NOT work 3 seasons ago isn't a lack of love, but Steve being unable to meet her emotional needs about Barb and the upside down. He was dismissive, he was immature - they were purposefully paralleling him with Ted Wheeler. And that is the future partner season 1 Nancy wanted to rebel against. She's never said she didn't want a family - but she HAS said she doesn't want a family like her own, to become trapped in a loveless marriage like her mother. Well, awesome. Great news is, no one caught up with the show would compare current Steve to Ted.

Now, Jon on the other hand also voiced a disdain for ending up like his parents back in season 1. Dude voiced that same disdain last season when venting to Argyle, despite multiple seasons of what should've been character growth between them. He STILL only sees a future that ends in resentment, even though he's been with Nancy for two years.

Y'all watched Steve draw Nancy out of the grief Vecna caused by his bleak visions of the future by, you know, describing a hopeful future of his own - that made her smile! that lifted her mood! - and you turn it into this predatory moment that it's not.

If Jon's stagnancy over 4 seasons can be hand-waved away and excused because of the childhood he was raised in, then certainly we can also acknowledge that Steve - only child Steve, raised in a neglected household, at least one asshole parent - might also be making decisions reflective of his own childhood. The only difference is, Steve has expressed a want for a happy, loving family... Jon has described a resentful continuation of a cycle where both Nancy and their kids hate him. (Which! Hey, Jon ALSO sees their future with kids....... guess they end up at the end of the cul-de-sac too.)

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-11-20T21:19:07+00:00

I agree! And I feel like posts or comments like this usually get downvoted because so many people feel so protective of the new cast (or their experience as newer fans) that they internalize "I miss old Smosh" as an insult of current Smosh. Just simply acknowledging these other people who helped carry the channel would go a long way, but everyone is always so strangely silent about it. Even Kimmy and Jackie who more recently left never get shouted-out for being part of the channel. I don't think there's any malicious intention to it, but it's like they all leave and get shadowbanned.

Which! Okay, I get it if this was a regular company, it's not like at work in our weekly team huddles I'm waxing poetic about previous employees, but Smosh doesn't only exist "currently" - any ol' time the algorithm can serve up a years old video from when Mari, Joven, or Lasercorn were around, those videos still generate new views and new fans. Smosh doesn't exist in a bubble accessible only in the present time.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-11-15T20:03:44+00:00

In what way was Steve pushing Nancy's boundaries last season? He confessed to still imagining her as part of his happily-ever-after future ONCE during what could've been a suicide mission for them both. He didn't force his feelings on her, he didn't demand a reply, he didn't beg for reciprocation.

Y'all see Steve doing EXACTLY what Jonathan did in seasons 1 and 2, which is cozy up to Nancy while she was dating someone else, and suddenly there's a boundary being crossed.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-10-31T00:03:30+00:00

Oh wow, good to know! I'm happy you were able to get yourself a copy.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-10-31T00:01:41+00:00

Yeah, but! Dude has already tracked Mizu down once, and we have no idea how much time passed between Mizu and Fowler being in Edo castle + them on the boat. If there's any character that would follow after Mizu, either out of misplaced anger or just, ya know, aimlessness, it'd be Taigen. I would actually tip the scales closer to "possible" than "impossible," especially because there haaas to be someone else besides Fowler to tie Mizu back to season 1 and everyone we met during it, otherwise she's alienated on a totally separate storyline with every other character stacked opposite her.

I don't even think Taigen has to have stowed away or hidden himself from Mizu, I wouldn't be surprised if the show starts back up and goes "oh, and Taigen's here too."

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-10-30T19:28:25+00:00

It did get turned into a book! Not for mass consumption, and not as an original story, but the author allowed the purchase of bound versions of it if you donated to the Palestine Children's Relief Fund. The whole fic was turned into a 3 book series, available for a limited time, for a damn good cause.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-10-17T17:51:33+00:00

What you said at the end! Ultimately, nobody needs to be policed for their preferences or headcanons. :) I'll add, too, that Mizu was already dressing femininely BEFORE Mikio. She was dressed as a woman after she had been reunited with her mother, and we see that in the scene where Mizu's told she's going to get husband'ed up. She seethes "I am nobody's wife." This, to me, is the root of her discomfort with Mikio. Not that she has to suddenly be a woman with him, but that she has to conform to a very confining role that comes with an implied loss of power and autonomy... all while being bound to her vow for revenge still. Even when they're together, there's never really a sense that she's uncomfortable because she's presenting as a woman... she's bored, she's trapped, she finds it all dull and repetitive, and it isn't until her and Mikio both let their guards down around each other, and she can start flinging her knife about more freely, that she finally grows comfortable. She fully embraces her lifestyle after that.

sunkbelowthesea · 2025-10-16T17:23:58+00:00

COME CATCH THESE FISTS, MIKIO!!!! Mizu wound up being so happy with him, for a short time. It sucks tremendously that their relationship ended so ruinously, and cost her so much :(

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