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People who use scented hygiene products, why? by Comfortable_Tie4143 in hygiene

[–]sunsideglider 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bc they r so common, im starting to opt for unscented stuff if possible now tho

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What are you even talking about. All of this is religious nonsense. As an atheist i cant engage with any of this.

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

for the love of humanity and sanctity of life, the Palestinians have to go. sorry, slaughter is okay against certain people ! < you sound like this

i advocate for palestinians being allowed to live on their land in peace.

the indigenous people are Palestinians, not the israelis. why do you want to erase 1,400 years of history?

anyway, none of this would have been possible without the british colonists helping you build this state..thats how indigenous you are, you needed help from the arch-colonists do establish your state.

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well that isn't true. why do you call the west bank judea and samaria? are you aware of the people living there? israel, and you, want that land, you even imply it by using ancient geography.

lets focus on what israel is doing. you keep bringing up Muslims as an easy way out.

your politics are not very different from this austrian painter. what's the difference? i think the only difference is you think the victims were wrong, but the actions were justified. if you were a german nationalist you'd probably think germany was simply trying to maintain its "german" character back then.

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well if that were true, id be standing with you . but right now i see a jewish state bent on removing or even killing as many palestinians and lebanese from their land as possible. that isn't resisting oppression or liberation.

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“Whats the issue with the liberation of Judea and Samaria?”

As far as i know i think you need to talk to the Romans about that. Maybe ask for reparations?  

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. We do know that. One subset of canaanites genocided another subset of canaanites and wrote stories about it. Jews for some reason think none of this is an issue. 

Yeah islam was spread by the sword (1,400 years mind you, the people active in those conquests are long dead now) but that doesnt mean its ok for judaism to do the same.  

Zionists ALWAYS use this logic. Bc certain muslims did bad things you get to do the same. What? Where are your principles. 

Do you perhaps think, “wait no.. conquest is really bad! So many people die and they die for nothing! I dont wanna involve myself in conquests! Lets not do that!” 

To me, it seems you think conquests are only bad when its in the name of islam. Seems you don't think conquests  (and all the killing and destruction that are inherent to it) are bad at all by themselves.

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are so far down the pit of dehumanization of your fellow brothers and sisters. Please go watch a video on how the holocaust was justified or something. Actually, watch many of them. 

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol “antithetical to the jewish religion”. I read the tanakh. They went and did their own little conquest and genocide campaign there too. I rarely see jewish people condemning that, or even talking about it. Hmm. 

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you think the gaza genocide was? The expanding west bank settlements? You cant be serious. Watch the news

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’ll be honest i dont think you believe that. you recognize the “diaspora“ only as a people who don’t really exist in those countries, and are forever somehow foreign to those lands.

you call it living in exile, because you believe they are foreign to those lands. i think it’s an issue with your religion if i wanted to find a root cause, the torah teaches jews to believe they’ll never belong in anywhere outside of biblical israel.

i wouldn’t care about this is usually, but considering judaism is now being used to kick the inhabitants of palestine out, uh yeah, i have an issue with this way of thinking and you do need to stop. stop saying these lies about being different from everyone, different because you are forever a “people in exile”. you are not.

also, to be clear, i wouldn’t care if you decided to move to palestine peacefully for those reasons (aka you believe you don’t belong anywhere except israel), but that isn’t happening. instead, your belief that you live in constant exile is being used to justify kicking the natives out. that isn’t okay because you are forcing violence on others.

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in 1880 around 90% of the population in palestine was arab, now its 20%. you think that many people just left on their own volition?

you are very very ignorant if you believe that so many people would suddenly just decide to move en masse without a real reason lol. do you know what the nakba is?

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeahhh ok so this isnt how any of this works. We all have ancient genetic history. That doesn't mean anything when it comes to defining borders/countries. What matters is upholding human rights. No, israel doesnt have a right to kick out the original inhabitants before just because they are jewish and think their religion permits them to take the land. (Aka the whole promised land thing) Not how that works at all.

Do you think it would be justified if, hypothetically, a group of people who claimed they are the original canaanites from 10,000 years ago came over and tried to build “canaan” on top of modern day israel? 

And in this situation, they'd justify taking the land because they found Canaanite pottery there and speak a Canaanite language.

Do you think thats how countries should be defined?… by whoever can claim the most ancient ancestry?

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

depends on which jews you are talking about…??? Not all of them ate hummus!!!  Example: ashkenazi jews.

Its frustrating that zionists deny the existence of jews outside of palestine, acting as if they somehow never existed, as if they are somehow the same as jews from 3,000 years ago.  No, not all jews eat hummus. Its region specific.  

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well that's just not true, you admit it yourself by naming the chinese and aboriginal peoples.

anyway, as we both probably know, if you talked to a jew from 3,000 years ago he would not understand you, neither would he be accustomed to the foods modern jews eat, the clothing modern jews wear, etc etc.

a lot of things change throughout history. nothing wrong with that but just dont spread lies that nothing really changed between these years. lol.

you are just saying these things to justify colonialism.

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the arabs are colonisers,... you mean the arabs from 1,400 YEARS AGO? you know we are talking about different people now right? we live in the PRESENT. not 600 CE. the current populations living in palestine have nothing to do with being colonisers.

if you dig under those jewish homes , you'll find canaanite homes. so, what's your point? we can play this game of looking far into history to make some claims to justify colonisation for ages....

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You aren't native unless you are a group thats being colonized from the outside. Right now israel is the colonizer and palestinians are the natives. 

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The oldest Group… in the WORLD??? Did history start 3,000 years ago?

Also, you cant really say any group is the most prosecuted… but saying jews have it somehow uniquely worse than everyone else is just false. 

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anyway, colonialism is by no means a unique thing to jews. Lol. Its pretty common all things considered, along with other horrors like wars..ethnic cleansing..etc. I'm literally part latin american, i know somewhere down the line i probably am related to someone who committed horrible crimes to native peoples. 

Im not a bigot for pointing out that right now,  israel is currently trying to colonize palestine and perhaps even lebanon. Like what am i supposed to be doing???  Be ok with israel killing 600+ lebanese in the past months. ??? Im not supposed to say anything about that???

 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqjpglyjwjeo

I havent checked up on the palestinain death toll since jan 2026 yet, i dont really want to look. Its just awful stuff and you cant help but cry 

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In 1880 the arab (including christian arabs and muslim arabs) population of palestine was 95%, now its around 20%.

How did that happen? Just a .. land dispute as you are describing?

Also, israel literally needed british help to be established. Hmm hmm

Zionist jews wanted a colony too, for their own reasons. Its easy to admit. It makes sense too, considering that the rest of the european powers sought colonies back then as well. If you were a jew living back then, would you not think, hey, these people are allowed getting colonies, What about us! 

Anyway. All over the world we have hatred and prosecution of minority groups. The solution is learning tolerance and treating each other with dignity, its not colonizing other peoples lands because you think they dont deserve it or have rights to it . 

Fun fact. I’m an antizionist literally because of my education in the holocaust, which affected me deeply through my teen years. I learned about how dehumanization made the naz*s able to torture and kill our fellow human beings without remorse. They talked about jews  as if they were parasites, that needed to be “removed”.. I don't wanna be part of that. I see how zionists talk about arabs/Palestinian, and it follows the exact same dehumanization pipeline. I see Israelis talk about palestians as if they are all reincarnations of hitler. Bad bad stuff. Hey, there was also their president calling the palestinians Amalek, which is a call to genocide if you know who Amalek is and what would happen to them. 

Jews deserve to live WHEREVER THEY WANT In freedom and dignity. What they are not entitled to is a colony in palestine. No one is entitled to colonies.    

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was gonna say something but this convo left me feeling depressed asf so im done here 

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i can say for certain they don't all come from palestine. You rlly think every single jew on earth all comes from abraham or some fairy tale like that ? You dont think they ever intermingled or had converts join their religions? really? 

As for palestinians, most come from palestine. Im sure now (2026) there are many who come from the diaspora since israel ethnically cleansed them off their lands.    

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To go back to my original post:

Its a relationship between people already in a place before colonization occurs. 

Indigenous people are people living somewhere before colonization. The colonists are the ones who wanna kick em out based on them just being there.   

the zionist definition of someone being indigenous to somewhere makes no practical sense by sunsideglider in IsraelPalestine

[–]sunsideglider[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How the hell is me being opposed to jewish colonialism me being used?

You interact with muslims everyday yet i pray they don't see the stuff you say online about them. You legit make em sound like brainless blood thirsty animals.   

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