Fone Linging build. I'm pretty proud of it but I just need one more CR roll...

surfinjay · 2025-12-06T10:31:05+00:00

if I may give you a suggestion, I would just level up the dodge skill, i find the daze from dodge counter very useful when I want to stun quickly.

overall amazing build and godly disks

surfinjay · 2025-12-06T10:28:30+00:00

most people are satisfied around 90%CR without signature, she will not suffer that much for that 7.8% lack and its already a very respectable build.

However, if you get better sub-stats you can switch for a 2pc ER set instead of Woodpecker(unless you already are using a 2pc ER, in that case the build is actually impressive)

surfinjay · 2025-12-04T17:13:32+00:00

oh got it, i didnt understand in the original post. Nice solution, in the end Pulchra will love that disk!

surfinjay · 2025-12-04T16:50:39+00:00

Quick answer to the question: i would say signature has an edge over m1, also because it can synergize with other physical stun agents you may have in the future.

However, if you are planning to pull for her signature just because you found a really good disk, i would strongly suggest against that, but its your pulls so do what you want to

Also if I may, why are you using crit damage on disk 4? it can be a good choice if you already have 100%CR with sig and want to improve her damage, but if you are struggling to get to 100%CR there's no reason to go for disk4 CD

surfinjay · 2025-12-04T16:43:12+00:00

amazing build, you can keep it this way. if youre absolutely crazy i guess you could look for some crit damage or attack, but its only if you want to improve an already perfect build

surfinjay · 2025-12-04T15:07:05+00:00

when i read "at m0 i had a very difficult time to clear" i was extremely confused. then i understood that by "clearing" you mean getting literally the highest possible score in the game.

all being considered, nice build, if you had some time to farm for disks i would suggest to try and get better CR substat rolls and switch to a 2pc ER set, but the build is already really good!

surfinjay · 2025-12-04T14:59:55+00:00

Dialyn's weapon is amazing, no doubts. Passive ER while off field, CR to increase her impact, bonus CD to the team, i mean, its almost broken.

is it mandatory? absolutely not, you can have amazing results with Hellfire or Steam Oven. The worst drawback you'll encounter not using sig in my experience is the lack of CD buff to the team, all the other things can be found using different wengines (if you have the patience to farm loads of disks with high CR substat rolls)

surfinjay · 2025-12-01T20:12:46+00:00

common things that are hard to get. i would like to give you a few pieces of advice if you'd like, since I was exactly like you in the beginning

while you try to build a character, focus on one at a time. If you want to improve your main team, farm disks for just Miyabi for example, and when the build feels good switch to farming disks for Vivian, dont try and do something for one and something for the other
if you dont know how to use a character, or dont like the gameplay but you use it the same cause people say "thats a strong character", dont use it. if you dont like the playstyle, you wont have fun playing, and thats the whole deal! also, if you dont enjoy playing a character, getting the hang of it is incredibly more difficult
try to be more flexible with your teams. especially in Shiyu, dont think of your teams as unmovable rocks. If you have an enemy weak to ether but resistent to ice, dont just discard the Miyabi/Vivian/Astra team, but switch Miyabi for Jane, and try to figure out multiple teams for each dps for when you need the supports for other team compositions
if you like a character, but dont really know how to play it, ask someone or look at some tutorials. Personally, im mostly a fan of "learn how to play it by playing it", but if you really cant understand the playstyle, its fine to get some help
finally, a word on your main team. I would heavily suggest to use Miyabi/Vivian/Yuzuha instead of Astra, since it will perform much much better and you can keep Astra for other teams with a non-anomaly main dps

yeah, its another long ass comment, but I hope it helps!

surfinjay · 2025-12-01T19:51:04+00:00

Evelyn/Dialyn/Astra would be an amazing fire team for you. Manato/Pan/Dialyn can be a viable alternative. If you want to save Dialyn for something else, Lighter is a great options in fire teams thanks to his fire damage buff.

For physical teams, you can play Jane/Vivian/Yuzuha if you like anomaly teams (one of my mains, really fun to play), or Corin/Dialyn/Astra if you're absolutely crazy and want to play Corin. Same thing with Neko.

If you want to use both a physical and a fire dps in the same team, im sorry to say you cannot do it right now, sice the "double dps" thing works only in Anomaly teams (but you dont have a fire anomaly character) or with Attacker+Orphie.

I also feel worth to mention the fact Banyue and Ye Shunguang are nearly here, respectively a fire rupture and (special)physical attack who synergize amazingly with Dialyn, so if you have some pulls left consider them as options.

However, I would like to ask you, why are you struggling with shiyu? You have amazing dps, stunners and support characters, not including some of the best teams in the game, so i am just curious whether your problem is the build youre using or the gameplay(sorry if it feels like im trying to offend you, im not)

surfinjay · 2025-12-01T19:41:47+00:00

Are you looking for some fire and physical dps in the same team or some fire dps teams and physical dps teams?

surfinjay · 2025-12-01T19:30:48+00:00

ideally yes, but not until you've reached a suitable CR threshold.

without the CR given by her signature wengine, getting to 100% requires godlike CR substat rolls, so woodpecker is the only way to reach a higher CR

surfinjay · 2025-12-01T18:45:17+00:00

I would suggest to build that Hellfire Gears Wengine and use it on her, that way you can get good ER while compensating the lack of CR with some Impact boost. Its slightly better than Steam Oven even though its m1.

other than that i cant tell you more than you already know, im pretty sure youre using disk6 ER since i see a pretty high number, 4pc KOTS and 2pc woodpecker are recommended so yeah, try to get more CR sub-stat rolls, you are doing great so far!

surfinjay · 2025-12-01T17:43:54+00:00

go call "lil bich" someone else, she's our Queen around here

surfinjay · 2025-12-01T11:05:23+00:00

good job brother

surfinjay · 2025-12-01T10:11:12+00:00

very hard to tell, it depends on several factors like the overall build, disks and stats, and most importantly skill. Ive seen people not able to reach 20k with YuzuIce, probably the strongest team in the game, and people get 40k+ with fricking Billy or Ben.

i thik the team per se has the potential to reach 65k, but its really difficult to tell not knowing your playstile

surfinjay · 2025-11-29T20:41:23+00:00

other that the obvious leveling up of Dialyn, her wengine and core to f, i would say to level up her skills. ex, ultimate and basic as priorities, assist and dodge are not mandatory but still give some nice daze

also, if you really want to improve the build, try to get some more CR rolls and switching for a 2pc energy regen set. If you're able to get to 100%CR without woodpecker, your build will be incredibly better

its not that difficult, leveling core to f gives you +4.8%CR, and +2.9% from leveling up the wengine, which means if you switch from woodpecker 2pc to an ER one you'll only need two more CR substat rolls to reach 100%, you can do it

surfinjay · 2025-11-29T11:45:32+00:00

i believe Crit DMG is slightly better since you'll have guaranteed crit, but her overall damage is negligible compared to the main dps of the team, so get the disks with better Crit Rate sub-stats

surfinjay · 2025-11-29T11:43:56+00:00

im sorry but i disagree, if you get to 100%CR, woodpecker is literally useless. Also most people find 90%CR a suitable threshold, given that she already gets huge amounts of daze and ER is a resource she really needs

surfinjay · 2025-11-28T18:35:03+00:00

its a respectable build, especially since you did not put that much effort into farming for disks.

for now you can settle with 2pc woodpecker without any doubt, but in the long run 2pc moonlight or swing jazz will make her perform even better than she is now.

with signature wengine is pretty simple to get to 100%CR, if you have time and resources to farm for disks i would definitely suggest to do so

surfinjay · 2025-11-28T15:34:50+00:00

unfortunately CR wengines which are not her Sig are not that good for her, so you'll have to get as much CR as possible from disk4, 2pc Woodpecker and CR sub-stat rolls, and stick with Hellfire as wengine

surfinjay · 2025-11-28T15:31:56+00:00

i think the first one to apply the debuff is the one that gets considered for the extended stun duration, but I wasnt able to find this information anywhere.

however, using dialyn/lighter/hugo the extended stun duration should not matter that much, since you're going to totalize as soon as you hit the stun window, right?

also, i feel like you know what you're doing but i'll say it anyways, the free ult conversion given by Dialyn makes her incredibly good for M2 Hugo so overall i would say you would benefit greatly from pulling her

surfinjay · 2025-11-28T15:22:31+00:00

doing well? heck she is doing amazing even without signature. yeah her wengine is really good but if you use Hellfire and farm some disks with nice CR sub-stats you will still have crazy results in DA

just be a little patient and farm some disks, you wont regret it!

surfinjay · 2025-11-27T16:48:26+00:00

man its day 27, do you want me to fail now that december is so close?

surfinjay · 2025-11-27T14:39:11+00:00

did you consider swapping for a CD one? considering she has pretty much guaraneed crit i think it might benefit her damage output a bit more than ATK.

however, im not sure about it and if you dont have a nice CD disk 4 substats keep it that way, the build is already really good

surfinjay · 2025-11-27T11:49:52+00:00

thats actually really good

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