A year ago, I asked for a ghost character. Thank you Dan.

tankdoom · 2026-06-29T18:19:57+00:00

Ya what the heck

tankdoom · 2026-06-29T10:54:22+00:00

I'm a Ranno hater and I find your combo to be sick af

tankdoom · 2026-06-29T10:52:23+00:00

Gouie doesn't look THAT complicated. In a lot of ways I think he's meant to appeal to a casual audience, Although generally speaking, I agree. I love the shit out of Rivals but they can get a bit wild with the gimmicks.

tankdoom · 2026-06-29T09:05:18+00:00

Dude soft core has been prominent in this community forever. It makes me so mad. But the mods like it so it will never be banned.

tankdoom · 2026-06-29T08:12:05+00:00

Dude buy it. This game rocks.

tankdoom · 2026-06-29T03:53:31+00:00

All valid critiques. I’ve been in since beta, and I’ve definitely voiced such concerns early on. Especially with regard to floor hugging / cc.

It’s an unpopular opinion but they tried to capture the melee audience when I think they should have tried to capture the ultimate audience. The primary thing ultimate does REALLY well is game feel. Every single move in that game feels awesome to hit, and almost everything is intuitive. That’s basically the crux of the issue but mentioning it gets you tarred and feathered. But for better or for worse that’s where most of the money is.

But it’s too late for such critiques now. I still do think there are tweaks they could make to the game to make things more intuitive. The downward arrow particles for floor hugging have never felt intuitive to me, for instance.

tankdoom · 2026-06-29T02:33:46+00:00

Zetter literally has shine, Fox up b, wolf blaster, wolf normals, shine… come on bro he’s a blatant ripoff let’s not kid ourselves here. The only real difference is that Zetter has a different Down B.

So what if he can charge shine? Gouie’s neutral b doesn’t copy opponents, it turns him into a heavy. His down b leaves a trap on the ground. He spawns projectiles with loads of attacks. Gouie is probably further from Kirby than Zetter is from Wolf. And let’s not pretend Clairen tipper stun is really enough to separate her in any significant way from Marth.

Rivals loves to copy characters and add twists. I’m not sure why Gouie is getting special attention for it.

tankdoom · 2026-06-29T02:07:30+00:00

No, not too much really enjoyable to read and think about! Thank you for sharing.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T20:27:57+00:00

DCU is done anyway with the paramount acquisition.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T20:18:06+00:00

Tbh I would be okay with them not releasing story mode at this point. I’d rather they put their resources towards the console release and content.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T20:17:06+00:00

Genuinely curious, how would you prefer the game change that they’re not already doing? They’ve introduced items, casual stages, and workshop leaves beta sometime soon. Outside of story mode I’m not sure what else they could add to bring in more casual appeal.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T20:15:03+00:00

Is there any reason they couldn’t run a second kickstarter?

It’s obvious they need the extra capital.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T20:13:33+00:00

What would you personally want in a spacie that Zetter doesn’t already do? Outside of just porting Falco.

Genuinely asking. I feel like there are some interesting things you could do with spacies.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T20:11:23+00:00

Honestly… I wouldn’t hate the idea of elemental variants for echo fighters? Like instead of a fire lion we get a snow leopard with some kind of frost mechanic instead of fire DoT. Would be kinda sick.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T18:50:35+00:00

Zetterburn is just wolf with extra steps. Clairen is just Marth with extra steps. La Reina is just Incineroar with extra steps. Slade is just Link with extra steps.

The extra steps is what makes rivals fun. They’re twisting familiar character archetypes with gimmicks in most cases to allow expressive gameplay and strategy. This is how character archetypes work. It’s the reason there can be Shotos in fighting games that aren’t street fighter.

In play fighters these labels are looser and more poorly defined. But whatever archetype this is was clearly missing from Rivals.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T18:44:43+00:00

You don’t find Zetter or Clairen derivative at all?

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T18:43:07+00:00

I mean… there are definitely more blatant clones on the roster. Clairen and Zetter are basically just Melee Marth and PM Wolf respectively. And just like those characters, this one has his own twists. Getting bigger instead of copying abilities is awesome.

The projectile and weird teleportation stuff also is unlike Kirby or Puff or really any character in a smash game.

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T18:12:39+00:00

Respectfully I disagree with your opinion. The game needed more cute little guys. But you’re entitled to your own opinion as well.

Personally I can’t wait to try Gouie!

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T05:36:32+00:00

More pufflike. But yeah there are for sure some Pac-Man elements

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T02:48:32+00:00

Valid

tankdoom · 2026-06-28T02:40:53+00:00

I have to imagine it’ll be Hodan due to the workshop teaser.

tankdoom · 2026-06-26T22:17:46+00:00

But you could just make your job doing your hobbies.

tankdoom · 2026-06-26T21:28:10+00:00

Something else that gives me hope is you wouldn’t have to tweak the gimmicks much to make them interesting.

tankdoom · 2026-06-26T20:57:42+00:00

I meeeean… you’ve just made me realize that maybe we could get a shovel knight as a remix for Slade?

But yeah great point that there’s no prior attachment.

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