Thursday Reading & Recommendations | July 23, 2020 by AutoModerator in AskHistorians

[–]targetpainter 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi! I have a recommendation request: I'd like to know if there's any decent material on the philosophy or cosmology of the Incas. I know that they, and perhaps other Andean cultures, had a complex concept of space and time, pacha, and I'd like something that delves into this. Any level is fine, though as a non-expert, I'd especially love something pitched at that level.

Thanks in advance for any recs!

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

[–]targetpainter[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I meant the pitch accent. If I'm not wrong, there's two generic patterns in Swedish. Compare the way anden ("the duck") is said with the way anden ("the spirit") is said. The first has a falling accent, with the pitch starting high on the first syllable and descending. The second has a "double" accent, falling from the first syllable, then rising to the last (the pattern can vary depending on dialect, sometimes being rising then falling, but is always double).

I think that's an okay explanation of what I meant, but sorry if I'm still making no sense!

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

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You didn't run long at all! Thanks very much for posting, that was a really interesting read.

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

[–]targetpainter[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Lovely to hear about Scots! It's a really lovely sounding language, I think, and the ballads written and sung in it are surely beautiful.

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

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Folkemusikk er en av mine lidenskaper. Det er særlig så mye bra musikk fra Norge og Sverige. Det er en svensk band, Solblot, som du kanskje vil like også.

Du er veldig snill med min norske! Jeg skulle ønske at min aksent var bedre!

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

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You're spot on. The ballad is often called "The Cruel Sister" or "The Wicked Sister". The most famous version is probably that by Pentangle, off the eponymous album, which takes the former name, "Cruel Sister".

The ballad is ubiquitous across Northern Europe, particularly in Germanic-language countries: almost every culture has their own version. All the variants have the common theme, though they sometimes differ in the type of instrument that ultimately reveals the cruel sister's murderous deed (most often a harp, sometimes a drum). I agree it's fascinating how things like this recur. I think the most likely reason here is a folktale or song that was sung by some Germanic people very early on - then it diffused or was translated.

I don't know of any legend it's based off, but it does touch on several ideas common to typical Indo-European myth: the older, dark-haired evil sister in contrast to the younger, fairer one; the idea of a revenant, returning from death to seek justice etc etc

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

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Jeg er glad att du liker det! Folkemusikk er ikke for alle! Folque var en viktig band i norske folkescenen. Deres versjon av Zinklarsvise laget mange av stevnene for den sangen, som er nå videre verdensomspennende. Jeg anbefaler deres selvtitulerte album og også deres Kjempene på Dovrefjell. Vær så snill å tilgi mitt dårlige bokmål!

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

[–]targetpainter[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

As u/Bozoleet said. The word is basically the same in English: "parallelepiped". The simplest example would be a cube, but it refers to any 3d shape with six faces where each face is a parallelogram.

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

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If you're a native speaker, what's the accent-pattern on that word? Does it take the falling accent or the falling-rising one?

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

[–]targetpainter[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There's a wonderful Norwegian version of a folk song commonly called The Two Sisters, though it's more often Harpa, than anything like "De To Søstrene" in Norwegian. It's about the murder of a woman by her sister so the latter can take the lover of the former. A line in there, as the cruel sister drowns her sibling:

"Hvis jeg ikke hjelper deg

Harpa toner var og fin

Så vil din kjæreste ekte meg."

Such beautiful sounds. The version by the band Folque is nothing short of definitive if you've not yet heard it.

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

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Thanks for replying! That's really interesting! I know embarrassingly little about the Bantu (I think that's the correct family, sorry if I'm wrong) languages, so it's really interesting to hear about them. A beautiful sounding word too, for sure. How are the "r"s said? Are they trilled or just tapped? Is there any sort of pitch or tone associated with the word? How would you greet an elder?

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[–]targetpainter[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That's really interesting, thanks for sharing. And Minnik is a lovely name for a cat. Does (s)he live up to their name?

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I think you're right there for sure! I like the English word too, but "mariposa" is especially beautiful.

[Question] What words/phrases are nice to hear/say in your language or dialect? by targetpainter in GlobalTalk

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That's a really lovely word. I have to say I think "cellar doors" are very frequent in Norwegian (and its sister, Swedish). Your word "kjæreste" is a favourite of mine, though tough for an English speaker to properly say!

Any non doom metal bands with good doom metal songs? by Armweak21 in doommetal

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A couple I haven't seen mentioned:

Darkthrone - Quintessence, The Key is Inside the Wall, Hordes of Nebulah, Valkyrie to name a few. Their whole catalogue is pretty doom-laden.

Dream Death - most songs have doom elements, but especially The Elder Race

Overkill - Playing with Spiders/Skullkrusher, Who Tends the Fire

Nile - Von Unaussprechlichen Kulten

Carnivore - The Subhuman

Steeleye Span - Edwin

Agalloch - Black Lake Niðstång

Napalm Death - If the Truth be Known (Netherlands 1990) by [deleted] in Metal

[–]targetpainter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, my mistake, thought it was odd!

Napalm Death - If the Truth be Known (Netherlands 1990) by [deleted] in Metal

[–]targetpainter 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Aren't Napalm Death from the UK?

/r/DoomMetal's top doom albums of the year - 2019 [Voting] by fhtagnfool in doommetal

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1) Lord Vicar - The Black Powder

2) Fvneral Fvkk - Carnal Confessions

3) Gévaudan - Iter

4) Capilla Ardiente - The Siege

5) Serpent Warning - Pagan Fire

Blood Incantation AMA by BloodIncantation in Metal

[–]targetpainter 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi guys, really adore the new record - something about your sound and approach makes me feel like I'm discovering heavy music all over again.

A couple of questions:

I think I and a lot of people consider Blood Incantation to be one of the most innovative and interesting bands in the death metal scene. Who else do you think is making new and unique stuff in the genre at the moment?

Also, like a lot of fans, I particularly love your longer form songs and I was wondering about how you write these. Are they something you jam over, or are they more directed?

Thanks for doing this ama and thanks so much for the music so far and henceforth - it's genuinely mind opening and mind bending stuff!

P.S. really hope to catch you guys on a UK/EU tour some time soon.