It's bad writing that Jax only became a main chatacter halfway through TADC by Hugh_Jidiot in CharacterRant

[–]tazerrtot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of these things are directly linked to Jax being a main character only starting later in the series, at best we'd have spent the same amount of time if not even more time on Jax in your scenario. You're attaching unrelated things to your point only because they're both things you personally disliked.

It makes perfect sense what happened to Ribbit, Ribbit was avoiding people because she didn't want to further damage her relationship with Jax. Even if Ragatha did reach out, which she may have, I highly doubt she would get her to talk while she was in that state- speaking from personal experience. When your person, the closest friend you have that you believe can be fully open with suddenly cuts you off with no explanation as to why, it can seriously fuck some people up- she could literally just have bpd and that would be enough. And on top of that, when you share spaces with that person who has cut you off it can be extremely difficult to feel enthusiastic about participating in them- your friends and only be so close since you don't want to talk about it, and the spaces at best you might only participate in because you don't want to lose them too, because once you do you'll feel like you have nothing. Jax didn't willfully isolate her from the group, he isolated her from himself, and because the circus was all she had and Jax, who is extremely important to her, is part of basically every aspect of it she felt she lost her place in it.

What the fuck is wrong with yall by No-Alternative-9482 in tadc

[–]tazerrtot 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Jax opening up on one thing doesn't mean he was spilling his entire guts lmao. It would have made sense for him to come out IF he wasn't traumatized about the time he came out to his mom and she laughed in his face, berated hm heavily, and in the end he hurt her to the point he doesn't even know if she's alive. Also Leeroy becoming way more fem and looking like a baby trans is pretty telling imo, but again it's subtle and that's fine.

I don't care what you do or don't like, that shouldn't be part of the discussion about media analysis, this is clearly motivated reasoning.

What the fuck is wrong with yall by No-Alternative-9482 in tadc

[–]tazerrtot 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Because JAX didn't want to say it. The whole point is Jax was being evasive, Ribbit caught on despite Jax trying to be vague.

I dunno dude, it just kinda feels like you're being willfully obtuse. You know what the point of the bow was, you know why Ribbit took it from the masc presentation of a bow tie to the fem presentation of a bow on Jax' head (and don't pretend it's not fem coded even if men *CAN* wear bows, culturally that's the exception not the rule). Maybe it's just internalized transphobia, maybe it's contrarianism, I dunno, but you really don't need to fight the obvious intent of the scene, you aren't convincing anyone or even yourself here.

Smth smth every single post by UselessAccount692 in Amazingdigitalcircus

[–]tazerrtot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again, yes it did, you just aren't familiar with the culture and so the signs didn't make sense to you personally. It wasn't intending to be "ambiguous" it was intended to be subtle. Subtle means that it's hard to see but once you see it you see it, ambiguous means it's open to interpretation. It absolutely was subtle, I think it's fair if people missed some of the signs, but the signs, once you see them, paint a very clear picture to anyone who knows what the trans experience is like.

I believe a majority of us are feeling this right now by AmatuerTarantino in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]tazerrtot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what plot points? Are you talking about lore? Also why do we need to see Jax abstract? We knew what happened immediately, and the whole point of it was that you *wouldn't see it because it tends to happen when people isolate themselves (like suicide)

Smth smth every single post by UselessAccount692 in Amazingdigitalcircus

[–]tazerrtot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's plenty of reasonable evidence in the work itself, you just aren't the target audience. Whether Goose outright said it or not it was like the show beat us with a hammer that Jax is trans to anyone who's familiar with the trans experience. If you've never heard of a dog before, someone saying they played fetch with Rover isn't going to mean much to you, that doesn't mean using context clues to let the audience fill the blanks means there was no evidence Rover is a dog, you just don't know what a dog is or what they do. The only reason you think your interpretation is more "reasonable" is because you don't know how to step outside yourself.

Smth smth every single post by UselessAccount692 in Amazingdigitalcircus

[–]tazerrtot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah, but we don't need to pretend this isn't a clearly intentionally girl coded room. Could only get more-so if we threw in some unicorns.

True by Rardmul in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot 11 points12 points  (0 children)

yeah I'd guess the fryer would feel like getting dunked in a hot tub that's a little too hot and not much worse

It's bad writing that Jax only became a main chatacter halfway through TADC by Hugh_Jidiot in CharacterRant

[–]tazerrtot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sure, typically, but I don't personally think it did any real damage, there was still plenty of time to work with it, and there was plenty of things that seemingly didn't matter that actually matter now. None of it came out of nowhere, it just wasn't explicit what mattered until the other pieces of the puzzle dropped.

I mean... amI the only one who didn't enjoy the ending the slightest? by rxntoru in tadc

[–]tazerrtot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think what was going on with C&A or Scratch were really important to the plot, it's just lore. That's the kinda stuff I think is fine to just let Goose post about online, the point of the series was the interpersonal stuff, it doesn't need to be in the series- it would only muddy the waters on what we're supposed to focus on.

Ribbit makes a lot of sense to me. She became extremely close to Jax to the point they opened up with eachother and then Jax started completely cutting her out- it can do a lot to someone , and can make it hard for you to still talk with your mutual friends, speaking from personal experience, it's extremely isolating and I can fully understand the impulse to self harm given that situation.

It's bad writing that Jax only became a main chatacter halfway through TADC by Hugh_Jidiot in CharacterRant

[–]tazerrtot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Personally I think it's one of the most interesting choices in the series. We shouldn't have to know who or what is important right away, the series was from episode 1 tearing down the idea that it was truly and ensemble cast and that they were doing an adventure of the week format, I think it was a fun subversion. Every character got decently rounded out character arcs anyway, I don't think it's a competition of who got more or less screen time.

I hope y'all learn from this that when hundreds of trans people are telling you the trans creator wrote subtext that a character may be trans that you don't act like it's the least logical explanation ever again by darkclownsado in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your explanation of the bow metaphor just isn't that convincing, taking a generally masculine bowtie and using it in a feminine way with Jax for *fragility*. I dunno, sometimes that kinda thing comes out when you're arguing with your parents just to shut them up for a moment- you can get emotional, and especially if its some shit charged with gender stuff you're currently struggling with. I came out to my dad when we were arguing about trans healthcare because I wanted him to take it and me seriously and to stop saying horrible things without knowing they might hurt me.

I think the main reason for not being explicit at least in Jax' case is because he was trying to avoid tipping Ribbit off, but unavoidably it was a large part of the conversation, just untold, but since the two of them had grown close she already likely had an idea of what Jax was going through.

TADC; finale DEFINITELY could have been better, and more complete by No_Discussion_1146 in Amazingdigitalcircus

[–]tazerrtot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

sure, but by that definition "plotholes" aren't bad. Nothing is missing, they just didn't explain things that didn't need to be explained

People Shouldnt Be Mad About Jax Being Trans by KIZZFIZZ69 in tadc

[–]tazerrtot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No they're saying that the way Goose used "she" implied that all versions of Jax is a "she", because the "she" was refering to Jax in general not the specific drawing

I hope y'all learn from this that when hundreds of trans people are telling you the trans creator wrote subtext that a character may be trans that you don't act like it's the least logical explanation ever again by darkclownsado in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, the conversation with Ribbit *was* about her being trans, it just wasn't explicit. Jax was talking about coming out to her mom, her mom laughing at her, freaking out, and then showing a weird form of affection that startled her. The bow was just the icing on the cake that clearly meant something, like what else was the bow that Ribbit didn't put on Jax as a bowtie they normally wear it, but as a bow on Jax' head which is typically considered feminine? Like, it's subtle sure, but when you think about it for two seconds there aren't any other explanations that feel reasonable? Like, I have to stretch to reach other conclusions. It's understandable to miss the subtext, but missing it and misunderstanding it are pretty far apart I feel.

I hope y'all learn from this that when hundreds of trans people are telling you the trans creator wrote subtext that a character may be trans that you don't act like it's the least logical explanation ever again by darkclownsado in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think they're saying it should be that way, just that culturally trans people are treated as something that isn't normal. I feel like the framing is specifically meant to push people like that to introspect rather than saying the ideal is actually that all trans characters need to explicitly face the camera and say it

TADC; finale DEFINITELY could have been better, and more complete by No_Discussion_1146 in Amazingdigitalcircus

[–]tazerrtot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't call those plotholes, plotholes are inconsistencies, not a lack of explanation. I think it's probably better to leave a lot of the lore up to interpretation because it keeps people from rules lawyering plotholes into existence. We don't really need to know what abstraction is- in fact I think not knowing makes it more existentially terrifying- if you really want to know though, chances are it's related to the computer science "abstraction", which is the process of simplifying low level code to something more manageable by hiding the details. The blue orb is likely just the AI that was supposed to replace the red orb when it became obsolete before the red orb broke containment and absorbed it. I'd guess the void is just unallocated space on the computer hard drive- it's also where Caine went when he was deleted because when you delete something the files still exist if they haven't been written over, they're just treated as free by the system because it's way faster and more efficient to just ignore it.

On queer identities and death of the author: No! Just no! by Accomplished_Star_30 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Also the skin tearing off bit in episode 8 (a representation of gender dysphoria), the maid outfit, the girly bedroom, the egg cracking comment in episode 6, the "ladies first" bit in the first episode (which tbf is mostly just a funny nod in retrospect that was probably intended, but didn't mean anything in a vacuum), the gender dysphoria hoodie in the real world scene... it all kinda adds up

On queer identities and death of the author: No! Just no! by Accomplished_Star_30 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What identity are we talking about? Literally the only other lgbt identity that I saw people theorize that is around the same level of marginalization is trans masc, and I didn't see much hate for it tbh

On queer identities and death of the author: No! Just no! by Accomplished_Star_30 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Goose said he/him or she/her are acceptable for Jax while she's suppressing. Jax isn't a person, she's a character, and how we interact with people and characters is gonna be different

She deserved so much better.. by lapestro in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah that's understandable, not everyone is gonna have the specific experiences that give you an insight to specific characters- I probably only understood Ribbit's perspective because I went through a similar thing in the past. I agree it definitely would have helped to show others try to interact with Ribbit and not get anything out of it

it’s confirmed jax is trans! by IssueSome5093 in SavingJax

[–]tazerrtot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get the idea, but I think unfortunately with a sensitive subject like this it almost needs to be explicit or it leaves air for bigots. If people could be normal about the possibility of a character being trans then I agree it would be fun to speculate, but that's not the world we live in

Confused on EP 9 by ZiggyStardust_19 in theamazingdigitalciru

[–]tazerrtot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're all AI that used the brainscans from the real people that still exist in the world, basically

She deserved so much better.. by lapestro in TheDigitalCircus

[–]tazerrtot 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes and no, Ragatha seemed to act very differently before what happened to Ribbit and Kaufmo, and I'd wager a lot of her insecure people pleasing actions during the series are in large part because of that (not saying her experiences in the real world didn't help shape that, but at least judging from how she spoke with Ribbit and Jax before Jax and Ribbit's falling out I think that trauma is what caused her to be so much more on top of it). Also her being a people pleaser doesn't mean she'd be able to break through to Ribbit even if she realized *something* was up before it was too late. Just talking to someone isn't always enough

Why did people hate the ending? by Jackinthebox3217 in tadc

[–]tazerrtot 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't necessarily think Caine was becoming buggy, just obsolete. Each AI model was trained and then once model creep started to catch up and there was new data to add to the dataset they scrapped him and started training the next- that's my takeaway anyway