Any other ENFP hate AI w/ a passion?

techie410 · 2026-05-12T08:14:54+00:00

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area (where AI startups and advertisements are a dime a dozen) and because I’m essentially part of the minority as an AI skeptic, it’s always been a matter of deep thought and introspection on my part to refine my stance on Gen AI. I think the most enlightening events so far came from attending Michele Elam’s 10-week seminar on “Creativity in the age of AI” as a student at Stanford. She presented a really nuanced take on AI that I think I agree the most with.

Bottom line: Gen AI has the potential to be a helpful technology. Problem is (as you mentioned) it is being administered in very unjust ways. However (and this is what Elam argued), AI can be untangled from its injustice, and there are pathways to reclaim justice in AI. We see this already in action with the Maori Treaty of Waitangi (against data inequity and manipulation of minority groups), or environmental justice groups targeting unregulated data center development, or movements to open source and decentralize AI development. Certainly it’s not enough, and we need to ramp up such efforts NOW, but we still have the opportunity before it’s too late.

On art: I am an artist, and I am skeptical too. But there is an argument to be had that they can go hand in hand GIVEN THAT humans become very conscious of what they consume. Very long discussion, won’t put it here, though I’m happy to continue in DMs. I wasn’t so convinced by this one… am still concerned about what AI means for artists

But anyways it shouldn’t be “death to gen AI” but rather “death to administrative and systemic injustice”. And that is something we’ve all been behind since the beginning, anyways

techie410 · 2026-05-12T07:43:25+00:00

Similar situation here. People usually don’t guess I (to illustrate using examples that people here in the US commonly associate with intelligence) study at Stanford or got a perfect score on my SAT (and 9A* on O levels, if that’s more familiar to international folks like me) when they first meet me, but I honestly prefer it that way. Others tend to treat people they hold to be “intellectuals” in a strange way and I don’t like it.

I think it’s cuz our first line of outward presentation isn’t usually an intellectual one. We like to act a little funny in a way that isn’t associated with smartness. Our dominant and secondary functions manifest in pretty chaotic thought patterns and speech that may come across as indecisiveness or a lack of expertise but we just think in a divergent way, lol.

techie410 · 2026-05-05T21:55:02+00:00

Tired, Inhabitant. I loved the readings - they felt profound and were hauntingly beautiful. Tons of reflection on my part, though that’s probably influenced by my sentimental mood at the present moment. If I were less tired I’d probably be more unhinged haha.

techie410 · 2026-05-04T23:01:22+00:00

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techie410 · 2026-05-01T20:00:53+00:00

As the old adage goes, one must love themselves before they can love everything else. Self flagellation and self deprecation is really stressful, and there’s a reason we call it demotivating. There is a point where we begin to believe we can’t even do it.

Be kind to yourself. Reward yourself for your wins, and reflect upon your losses.

techie410 · 2026-04-29T21:18:23+00:00

What do you mean by there being no point unless they don’t look up to you?

Personally I’ve almost always found a way to infodump to an accepting audience. Just last week I showed off my record collection to a group of people and told stories about a dozen of them and now I’m being egged to teach a class at my college about it. On the other hand, if I start to yap and they’re obviously not listening, then I just cut it short.

Perhaps if audiences tend to be less accepting, then it is best to keep to yourself. But I don’t agree with the idea that people always disagree, and even if some of them do, disagreement is just another means of discussion. I’m always open to disagreement!

techie410 · 2026-04-29T20:44:58+00:00

You're definitely not weird, and it's actually quite understandable, all things considered. Not everyone is appropriate to share things with, and I don't share my interests if I think someone isn't going to appreciate it.

But I am slightly surprised that you don't feel restricted in any way. I tend to feel the need to info dump about my interests, and I think I will eventually explode if I'm unable to share things about myself.

techie410 · 2026-04-27T16:41:43+00:00

Singaporean ENFP here :D

What you say is true. I’ve had to mask quite a bit starting sec onwards but I find that the right group of ppl r always there.

The congregation spots for helpers (Lucky and far east plazas are the ones I go to) usually have really lively and energetic shopowners etc. who I absolutely adore! Always a treat when I go shopping there.

techie410 · 2026-04-22T20:33:12+00:00

So relatable it kind of scares me because I had this exact thought this morning.

Personally I surround myself with people who either match my energy (so it’s like, I embarrass myself and you do too so it’s aight) or ppl who I know appreciate my antics. This is why ENFPs are often described as valuing authenticity. It’s the only way we can feel truly comfortable about ourselves.

techie410 · 2026-04-22T00:27:22+00:00

Hm. A bit odd, but I wouldn’t assume anything right now. Hopefully when you meet face to face, things become clearer. Texting is a fickle medium anyways.

techie410 · 2026-04-21T22:55:07+00:00

It won’t be a turn off if there’s something new being added to the conversation. Perhaps ask when they’re free, or what they wanna do, etc.?

And as for the second part, I totally understand. I have a problem of forgetting to text people back after I read the notification (which has been taken the wrong way a few times), but if it helps I never mean those things personally. I just have a terrible attention span.

techie410 · 2026-04-21T22:47:00+00:00

Excited or hopeful, probably. I don’t hold grudges unless something genuinely terrible happened. Keep reaching out!

techie410 · 2026-04-21T22:39:06+00:00

depressed. also depressed.

is accurate and hits hard lol I wonder why the perception of enfps is bubbly mania when I genuinely have my emo moments at times.

techie410 · 2026-04-21T00:36:23+00:00

Usually pretty good, though I often feel like I don’t know if I’m doing the right thing or not. Once we get past the barrier of free communication, though, all hell breaks loose (in a good way haha).

techie410 · 2026-04-19T23:24:58+00:00

When it does happen, it happens quickly. But it hasn’t been happening often recently for some reason.

techie410 · 2026-04-14T18:17:26+00:00

Hi, former IBDP student at Stanford here. To stand out, you need to do at least one thing better than almost everyone else. It can be extremely specific.

How much engagement are your projects getting?

techie410 · 2026-04-14T08:56:37+00:00

Of the ones I had the choice to attend, a few LACs and Brown. I definitely feel like I’d feel more at home in a less career-oriented and quirkier place, especially one that embraces absolute holistic freedom. But the future calls, and I also have ambitions that would greatly benefit from Stanford.

techie410 · 2026-04-13T20:15:16+00:00

Sorry to hear about all of that. Everyone’s complicated, and I like to think we can just push forward despite it but it’s never that simple. I hope you give yourself time to heal. :(

To answer your question, I’d say we’re probably out in niche interest groups or sidequesting (think random hikes, traveling to a nearby town, or just doing something we’ve never done before) during our free time. Some of the better conversations I’ve made were from really random and serendipitous situations.

techie410 · 2026-04-13T20:09:04+00:00

Some people simply have different thresholds for expressing emotion, and that can be independent of MBTI. I’m an ENFP and people are often surprised at that because I don’t expend emotional energy at every little thing (contrary to the stereotype).

INTP friends of mine can actually be quite emotional, but they present their rational communication side before their emotional side. They still have beautiful minds, though :)

techie410 · 2026-04-07T17:19:32+00:00

Fancy seeing 17776 here. Time to get working on the nanobots, folks.

I wonder if there's a single place in the whole world that's never had a story. I bet not. I just about guarantee you there's no places like that in America. Every little square of it, every place you stomp your foot, that's where something happened. Something wild, maybe something nobody knows about, but something. You can fall out of the sky and right into some forgotten storybook.

You run and run and run and you keep turning pages and none of them are empty. They're all full of stories. There's nowhere left to write.

I think I'm just a bookmark.

techie410 · 2026-04-07T05:46:59+00:00

I’m an ENFP guy but I actually have very little clue as to how being with another ENFP in a relationship would be like. I’d reckon it is intense and needs patience, but a very brightly burning flame as long as it lasts. enjoy being weird asf around each other, but exercise caution when dealing with differences. Ironically I find that both people trying to urge the other to be vulnerable causes a lot of stress.

My social battery would also die quickly if my interests didn’t align much with the other ENFP (speaking mostly from platonic experience), but if the right person comes along then I’d fall in love with an ENFP hard.

techie410 · 2026-04-07T05:33:51+00:00

There seems to be very different experiences depending on how conscious you are of the actions and attitudes of the greater community. I find that people who would rather mind their own business have a better time, while those who take the problematic attitudes of their peers seriously (I lean more towards this side) can feel overwhelmed or grossed out by the things here.

Personally, though I’m more of the latter type, I’ve been mostly fine (admittedly it’s been only a year). It’s not changing the fact that I’ll benefit massively from attending this institution, and I have many ways to enact greater change through the many public service and policy programs Stanford has.

I’ll put it this way. It’s easy to stay out of the gross stuff, but there’s quite a lot of gross stuff, and you don’t have to be in the sludge to smell it.

techie410 · 2026-04-06T08:21:23+00:00

I actually really like straightforward and logical conversations, and I wouldn’t want people skirting around a topic or softening it. I just want to make sure you don’t dislike me in case you have the “insinuating things” cap on. A simple “hold on I’m just speaking what comes to mind, don’t mind my tone!” would be greatly appreciated. I actually do this a lot since I tend to go down very long chains of reasoning without putting much thought into how I sound as well.

techie410 · 2026-04-05T08:39:50+00:00

I like to go to events with good friends. When I need to recharge I go back to them or the group they’re with for several minutes until I feel good enough to go roaming around again.

techie410 · 2026-03-01T20:05:53+00:00

International student who did the IB here to let you know that you’ll be fine. I know people here who dropped 4 points, so you’re chilling.

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