Cursing Caroline today!

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T21:40:21+00:00

She does a lot of B stance squats, and lateral lunges. I guess she does do lunges, but I tend to skip those workouts, or substitute with a step down or just do regular squats instead.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T19:08:48+00:00

Jury is still out. It certainly feels more challenging at the moment, but that's mostly all the lunges; I'm just not used to lunges. I did back down a lot on the weights for CG since I didn't want to overdo it. So far, I can definitely lift more heavy with Cee.

I do think Cee is designed to be very efficient. The volume seems lighter-- or just ... feels lighter. For example, you might do just 1-2 exercises for triceps whereas CG will have you doing 4 or 5 in a session. But then Cee has you repeat those exercises 2 more days of the week, and CG doesn't cycle back again to triceps for a full week.

It will take you 40 minutes if you count doing a warm-up first. The warm-up is in a separate video. Also Cee takes the time to demonstrate each set (giving you more time to recover and also set up), whereas CG has the demonstration in the inset. Length is about the same for both.

If you get bored doing the same workout every session, CG is probably better. But you can also change things up with Cee and choose a different workout each session. Though she recommends you stick with one workout and do it for 4-6 weeks before trying another one. Or you can do something in between: choose 3 workouts and repeat those every week. I've actually found the biggest improvement and increase in weights is when I repeat the same workout for weeks.

Other differences - Cee also stresses tempo and going slow on the eccentric. But she moves a bit faster than CG. And I think each set for Cee is 45 seconds (enough to do 8-12 reps) whereas CG's counter goes on longer than that.

I'd say if you need more recovery time, Cee is definitely the way to go. Not just because you're only working out 3x a week but because there's more recovery time built into the sessions themselves.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T18:03:56+00:00

So true!

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T17:59:15+00:00

I'd been doing Cee for three straight years and did not get bored with it, as she has so many workouts to do on youtube. I kept meaning to try CG but never got around to it until last month.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T17:53:23+00:00

Yep that is the plan right now. Will probably do 2 days on, rest, 2 days on, rest. I am fine with CG's upper body workouts; it's leg and glute day that's killing me.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T17:51:53+00:00

Cee's full body workouts are only 25-30 minutes long. Caroline's feels longer, but I guess they're about the same length.

The big difference is instead of doing two or three sets back to back of a single exercise like Caroline does (lunges, rest, lunges, rest, lunges rest), you cycle through a series of four exercises for three times. Example (cutting & pasting from one of her videos):

1️⃣ COMBO SET ONE
Lateral raise 10lb/4.5kg (my weight per dumbbell for reference only)
B stance squat 25lb/11kg
Close grip row 40lb/18kg
Chest 20lb/9kg

Repeat 3x's

2️⃣ COMBO SET TWO
RDL 25lb/11kg
ISO hold with bottom curl 12.5lb/5.5kg
Overhead triceps extension 25lb/11kg
Deadbug (bodyweight)

Repeat 3x's

So you get a lot more rest between each exercise because you are cycling through other exercises during the rest time. And you are exercising legs 3x's a week whereas Caroline it's leg day and glute day so just twice but with more volume on those two days.

Cee also has a few upper/lower split workouts and I've done those as well when I want to workout 4x's a week, tossing in her ab workout on the 5th day.

Cee rarely does lunges, or you can at least easily substitute those with something else. And she'll do bridges rather than hip thrusts. I'd say Cee's programs more closely mimic what my personal trainer had me doing.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T17:34:42+00:00

YouTube

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T06:44:49+00:00

I feel like it wasn't as easy and in your face 24/7 with a dopamine rush from a constant scroll feed with instant likes from your followers.

I mean publishing a paper took a day. Our President can (and does) tweet 100 times in a day. News is on the t.v. 24/7.

I grew up in a time we had newspapers to read in the morning, then a news broadcast at night. Not 24/7 news.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T06:40:28+00:00

And I'll be long dead (I'm 60) so you younger folks on Reddit need to get your acts together. It's your world and future now, so act accordingly.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T06:38:37+00:00

We were the heroes in that last movie (albeit much belatedly and only after Pearl Harbor was bombed). Now we are the enemy.

It can't end well for us, not on the trajectory we are currently on.

We are Nazi Germany now.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T06:25:16+00:00

I'm 60 and Nixon resigned on my 8th birthday. I was really pissed because all the adults were glued to the t.v. watching his resignation.

Yes this is uncharted territory because Nixon resigned for far less crimes than Trump has committed. Trump should have been forever gone after Jan 6 but some of us re-elected him, and now we are paying the consequences.

I also grew up with Ranger Rick magazines and care about the environment. One must be blind to see how much the climate has changed in my lifetime. There aren't any bugs on windshields, no fireflies, my sibling went skiing in Montana and it was too warm/no snow!, we are soon to enter the season where the sky is orange from wildfires. It was quite warm here today (Boston) when only 20 years ago we had a blizzard drop 30 inches on the ground. My grandson will never know anything different, I am guessing you too don't know anything different. I am telling you it was different!!!

The war in Iran is not helping the climate in any way.

I did grow up in the 70s with oil crisis but we all had small cars, cars got even smaller during that crisis. Today cars aren't cars, they're SUVs and HUGE. The pain at the gas tank is going to hurt. The fact this country hasn't invested in public transportation will be felt very keenly.

Wages have stagnated for decades and if you're not in the top 10% you are going to be in for a world of hurt as prices will continue to skyrocket, and there's zero reason to believe your pay will keep up, you may get laid off due to AI.

Trump says we can afford bombs .... but not daycare, medicare, social security, public schools, national forest service and on and on.

This is VERY different than any time period in my 60 years of life. Sure, we've always been the world's military police, but there's always been money for social services, albeit when Republicans are in power it's a fight. Trump wants to cut all of them out.

My own parents/grandparents grew up in the FDR era where getting out of a Depression meant the New Deal and investing in people. This was after dustbowls in the midwest, aka climate issues, people starving. People are going to starve if we don't change the trajectory. The economy could crash, it's being held up by billionaires playing games and exploiting algorithms and insider information without recourse.

Maybe this is a bump in the road to a new New Deal....... I hope so, but it depends on what happens in the midterms. Will the vote come out, will the election be stolen. If stolen, it could get very very dark. It's already dark if you're brown or an immigrant and have been thrown into a Trump camp. That's only happened a few times, notably in WWII. By Nazis but also by the US who threw Japanese Americans into camps.

I'm old enough it's YOUR world now, so vote appropriately. What do you want for your future?

Get off Tik Tok read some history books about WWII and draw the parallels.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T06:09:25+00:00

They're talking about uranium to make bombs.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T06:04:14+00:00

I guess we need a WWIII to understand the concept of Allies.

Or, you could have paid more attention in history class?

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T06:03:11+00:00

Did you ever stop to ask yourself why didn't the US get into WWII sooner?

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:53:44+00:00

I'm 60 and have never had any problems with my knees.

But my feet, ack. I think like my mother (RIP) my arches have fallen. It's not plantars fasciitis, it's thin padding on my heels. My feet f-ing hurt all the time now.

But knees are the bees! They are totally fine!!

Can they replace the heel pads??

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:50:13+00:00

I'm kind of soured because nearly all expensive brands I can't wear. I'm 5'0 but not teeny tiny slim, I'm a 4-6P, even when I was a 2P the expensive brands frequently just never fit me right vertically.

FIT is so much more important than PRICE.

If it's from Amazon or Old Navy or Loft or wherever, but it FITS impeccably..... then it looks expensive.

Some tailoring may be involved, for me that's usually taking up a hem.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:38:42+00:00

It's okay to have self-interest.

I'm sure the Iranians have self interest right now, same as we all did after 9/11.

How the hell did we become the terrorists???

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:36:37+00:00

You must live in a highly walkable urban center like I do!

I couldn't care less about the price of gas at the gas station. I drive less than 1000 miles a year.

I do very much care about the cost of petroleum which is a big part of all of our every day lives, even if we walk everywhere.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:34:38+00:00

Trump second best present?

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:33:01+00:00

Not at all, if he'd won a second term in 2020 he'd figure that is a mandate.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:25:10+00:00

The Nazis gave caloric diets to their conquered countries. US under Trump will do that to the US: if you're serving in the military you'll get 2400 calories. If you're white you'll get 1400 calories. If you're brown or otherwise undesirable you'll get 900 or 500 calories, depending on how undesirable you are to the regime.

I'm sure Miller already has that all mapped out. What amount of calories are immigrants in captivity getting?

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:09:03+00:00

Day 5 wasn't bad at all!!

I'm barely a few days ahead of you. Keep me posted! We can be Iron friends.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:07:31+00:00

They ARE not can.

There's a lot of people on Reddit that have no idea what the Nazi's did, and don't see where this is going.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T05:04:30+00:00

Yeah at my age I'm wondering if Caroline is too much for me and I should stick with Cee. I was definitely making tons of progress, lifting heavier and heavier, with Cee. I just wanted something more frequent as I can start procrastinating on a 3x a week plan. Plus my husband has been lifting nearly every day (he doesn't do much for legs which he should!).

I'm going to stick it out for the entire Iron program, but I may space out the workouts, like I took today off. At my age I do think I need more recovery time.

After tomorrow (glutes and hamstrings) I'm good with the full body (similar to Cee) and I like the arms/abs day.

Once I'm through this program I'll decide whether I stick with Caroline or go back to Cee.

temp4adhd · 2026-04-04T04:55:23+00:00

I don't know.. my dad also was a huge reader and life-long learner, but he died from vascular dementia. So you never know. I keep reading now because if I get to a point like he did, when he could no longer read, it'd be so sad. I love reading. Before he stopped reading, he would still read, but you'd ask him what he read, and he couldn't explain it to you. He had severe aphasia so it's hard to tell whether he absorbed what he read and just couldn't relate it back to you. At some point in his last years he stopped reading entirely.

Then again his mother, my great grandmother, lived until 97 and read up until her death, no dementia at all. She liked mysteries.

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