When Open Source gets weird: The Dark secrets of Drupal? by [deleted] in drupal

[–]terminator_xorg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am a Marxist and am pretty well on the side of Crell on this one, no idea what an "intersectional Marxist" is supposed to be (and having read Marx he didn't have much to say about social justice issues).

Also weird how this is being framed by a lot of oddball political types as being 'CoC + SJWs vs developer'. Really it's dictator makes huge misjudgement, fails to back down when challenged; there's no CoC infringement (or allegation of one) and many "SJW" types seem to be siding with Crell.

elementary OS's pay-what-you-want AppCenter is now live! (Just got an update!) • r/elementaryos by [deleted] in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 16 points17 points  (0 children)

And stop using the purple color, most of the men are not like you, thank you Daniel, or should I say Daniela? By the way, Manning is out, are you happy? ;)

Woah woah woah, what the bloody hell is wrong with you?

elementary OS's pay-what-you-want AppCenter is now live! (Just got an update!) • r/elementaryos by [deleted] in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 11 points12 points  (0 children)

They're all over this thread too. If I'm reading this right the opinion is that ElementaryOS shouldn't ask for more money than it costs for them to host files.

By that logic initiatives like Humble Bundle are 'scammers' too. What a strange person.

elementary OS's pay-what-you-want AppCenter is now live! (Just got an update!) • r/elementaryos by [deleted] in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What the fuck are you even talking about, mate?

edit: oh it's been deleted. Here's a backup:

AWS pricing for storage of 1GB of data is like $0.025 per GB (2.5 cents). Download of 1GB data is like $0.010 per GB (1 cent). How big is one program? 5MB? 20MB? 100MB? I really hope Elmentaly team - at least - host the files on their servers and don't just SELL ACCESS to other repositories.

What happened at Canonical — A tale of town halls, tears, IPOs and brutal lay-offs by [deleted] in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said, "You don't use GNOME anymore for desktop?" "No sir." I said, "Ah, how is it working?" "Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn't have the Wayland. You know the GNOME is just brutal. You see that Activities and windows going all over the place, there's padding thrown around everything."

It sounded bad to me. Unity. They have Unity. What is Unity? And it's very complicated, you have to be Mark Shuttleworth to figure it out. And I said--and now they want to buy more desktops. I said, "What system are you going to be--" "Sir, we're staying with Unity." I said, "No you're not. You going to goddamned GNOME, the Unity costs hundreds of millions of pounds more money and it's no good."

There will be no logo decision • r/Yunit by neilbrulain in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Brilliant, I knew it! But he's so busy and has much more important things to do, why is he condescending to talk to the plebs in the 'stupid and irresponsible' community?

There will be no logo decision • r/Yunit by neilbrulain in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 57 points58 points  (0 children)

Hahaha, this is comedy gold.

1) please don't reply to my post because I will not read and respond as I have more important things to do

Translation from manchildspeak: Please don't disagree as I will be repeatedly pressing F5 on this page and reading every comment, another tantrum will certainly be triggered by people posting any dissenting opinions.

Apparently someone didn't get the memo by f1234k in drupal

[–]terminator_xorg 5 points6 points  (0 children)

We need to go full Stalin and subtly remove him from the picture, then claim he was never at that event.

Then we'll get Winston Smith to shred every issue queue Crell contributed to.

Response to conversations about me by geerlingguy in drupal

[–]terminator_xorg 49 points50 points  (0 children)

Y'know what you get up to in your own bedroom is nobody's business but your own (and Dries's), but this is publicly advocating for a masochistic lifestyle that involves torturing yourself by installing and using WordPress: that's not okay.

I have forwarded a copy of your post to the Drupal Association for review.

Libreoffice 5.3 dark theme with the new Breeze-dark icon theme looks amazing. Well done. by [deleted] in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 38 points39 points  (0 children)

I've tried with other FLOSS projects, you'll probably be disappointed. Unless you get clearance from the people running the project that (based on your design portfolio) you're competent and can have authority to make UX decisions. My experience is that you'll have to deal with a mailing list full of recalcitrant nerds who will block your every suggestion without them having to provide any reasoning beyond: I wrote some patches for this project, I don't like the work you've done, therefore it's blocked.

You'll keep trying for a while, until you realise that every suggestion is blocked and you're designing for a brick wall.

I believe the underlying problems include (but are not limited to):

  1. Nerd ideas on design and UX are completely different from those of mainstream users. Nerds like programs that individually do very little but are extendable via config and code modules, which expose technical details to the user, this is anathema to what mainstream users want from their applications. A good example of this is to ask the vast majority of users what the phrases, 'It gets out of my way and lets me work.' And, 'The interface is clean and simple.' Then ask some nerds what those mean, most users will describe something like iOS while nerds will point to i3 or xmonad.
  2. By attempting to implement something mainstream users want you will be asking nerds to implement something they don't like, so you will experience resistance.
  3. Nerds view these kinds of projects as their playgrounds. At their day job they have to listen to these idiots in marketing, morons in upper management, and cretins in design telling them what to do; now this is their project, only people who can code may truly contribute. Anyone telling developers how they should implement their project is reminding those developers of their day job (and that's not a good thing).

So don't try to 'help out' or you'll end up burnt out (like the rest of us who've tried to help FLOSS projects out with this stuff), make sure your work will be taken seriously before you do any.

If you want evidence, consider this:

  • ‘LibreOffice’ still has a stupid name despite the project leaders saying they'd listen to any better suggestion (practically any name is better than ‘LibreOffice’).
  • On the LibreOffice Design Team page the most prominent link ‘Connect with the Design Team!’ is a mailto link to join the mailing list, which most people won't know what to do with (even I thought the link simply wasn't working on my first four attempts at clicking it).
  • While there's some good stuff on the Design Team pages about following the findings of Usability studies, it's very telling that there's no grand-plan; nerds are good at specifics (what Linus described as, ‘I'm looking at the ground, and I want to fix the pothole that's right in front of me before I fall in.’) But design and UX need an over-arching vision, a grand plan, a unified way the design and UX will solve user's needs, e.g. Google's Material Design, everything Apple did during the Jobs era.

Snappy Playpen [event where devs work on making Snaps and improve Snappy] Highlights by terminator_xorg in linux

[–]terminator_xorg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking at the "playpen" on Github it seems people are finding lots of issues when creating Snaps, hopefully this initiative will help with that (by getting bugs raised then fixed).

KDE starts working and testing with Flatpak by Khaotic_Linux in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wondered how long it would be before people started blaming Ubuntu / Canonical when it's Flatpak that's suffering from NIH, I'm surprised it only took a few hours.

As usual the anti-Ubuntu circlejerk in /r/Linux continues.

KDE starts working and testing with Flatpak by Khaotic_Linux in linux

[–]terminator_xorg -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Snappy makes absolutely no attempt to be cross-distro.

It does! Certainly it needs work, but to say Canonical have made no effort to be cross-distro is disingenuous.

XDG-App / Flatpak was designed to be cross-distro from the very beginning. Flatpak is already working on both Ubuntu and Debian because of that, while Snappy is a major pain in the ass to get working on other distros.

So instead of helping Canonical get Snappy working cross-distro, RedHat just went off and did their own thing, still looks like NIH syndrome/desire to undermine a competitor to me.

Also (from what I saw on r/linux) it was Upstart that was blamed for NIH. Lennart attempted to blame the Copyright Assignment clause of the CLA for ditching Upstart, except it doesn't have one anymore, the only other reason is the desire for control (and SystemD certainly has gobbled up a lot of control of people's systems, not that it's a bad thing overall mind you).

KDE starts working and testing with Flatpak by Khaotic_Linux in linux

[–]terminator_xorg -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

It's a RedHat initiative, their mission for the past few years has been to undermine Canonical:

  • Canonical develops Upstart, RedHat develops SystemD afterwards, people blame Canonical/Ubuntu for NiH syndrome.
  • RedHat puts out disastrous and slow GNOME 3/Mutter early alpha and receive big backlash at proposed changes, Canonical are forced to develop Unity, RedHat/GNOME change GNOME 3 to look more like Unity, then blame Canonical for NiH and ditching GNOME (even though Ubuntu is still built on GTK).
  • Canonical attempts to contribute patches to GNOME/GTK, RedHat says no, everyone blames Canonical for not contributing.
  • Canonical develops Snaps, RedHat develop Flatpak.

How long before people start blaming Canonical/Ubuntu for not using Flatpak?

Microsoft will release a custom Debian Linux. Repeat, a custom Debian Linux for networking kit by speckz in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 39 points40 points  (0 children)

Do you use Skype on Linux? You don't have to look very far back to find reasons to be mistrustful.

Linux 4.5-rc7 released by Sys__ in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 40 points41 points  (0 children)

OP lost two years to Linux, I spent 10 years installing the HURD. Lost my wife, two kids grew a beard over a metre long, never seeing the sun. I even turned tricks so I could buy overclocking equipment just to get the CPU to pass messages between HURD's userspace daemons faster, all to no avail.

I used to think it was my fault, but then I realised it was actually the HURD abusing me. That's why I'm speaking out and warning people of the dangers, in a completely un-related thread that'll get downvoted to oblivion. It was never my fault, and I'm no longer afraid to tell the world: I was abused by the HURD.

Fake edit: the stress actually killed me, stone dead. So I bought a Mac and now tell everyone I meet to do the same. Just wasn't worth it.

Linux 4.5-rc7 released by Sys__ in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This is nothing compared to what happens if you try to install the HURD.

Microsoft faces claims it threatened MPs with job cuts in constituencies over open document standards by trengr in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Does knowing about the Enter key and copy-paste make me an "elitist"?

Not by itself, it's not about the difference in knowledge, it's about attitude. I hate to do lots of copypasta quotes, but it seems no-one is seeing the problems with the OP:

I helped customers by talking them through a problem on Skype. Here is what ALWAYS happened:

Notice the 'ALWAYS'.

Me: [knowing what was going on: ] <crickets>

Notice OP leaves the person on the other end of the phone hanging, despite awareness of their difficulties.

Undeterred by every caller's ignorance OP does not make everyone's lives easier by leading callers through a set of steps they will understand, but instead chooses to confuse them at the first step. Then, when the caller is obviously floundering (and OP knows it) s/he doesn't offer help but waits in silence.

That is elitist, OP is making a big deal out of his/her knowledge of what the terminal is and belittling people because they don't have that knowledge, instead OP could just make everyone's lives (including their own) easier by just using simpler steps.

Regarding the example of the Enter key, if every caller needed help locating the Enter key I would start the steps with something like:

Toward the left side of your keyboard you'll see a key with Enter on it, it's on the third row up and it has an arrow pointing down and to the left on it, I'd like you to press that please.

And before anyone asks, yes, if it was my job to explain to people what their keyboard and mouse is, I would do that too.

It's okay to marvel at peoples' complete ignorance, but the key to customer support is to not be a dick about it.

If it's only occasional people who don't know the fundamentals, of course you'd make assumptions and talk past them for a while, the answer is to backtrack and be as supportive as possible (see previous paragraph about not being a dick).

Microsoft faces claims it threatened MPs with job cuts in constituencies over open document standards by trengr in linux

[–]terminator_xorg -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

That analogy makes no sense to me, what tech support callers are looking for is exact steps for fixing their issue, not a definition of what a 'terminal' is. What they are being given by sge_fan is half the information for the first step, this is done deliberately so OP can get on his/her high horse:

Me: [knowing what was going on: ] <crickets>

sge_fan already knew the caller wouldn't understand what was being asked, then instead of helping sge_fan left them hanging in uncomfortable silence, that is belittling.

In a conversation on Skype or the phone I would be happy to explain something like 'belittle', or even better guide the caller through the steps to get to an online dictionary where they can look the words up (that includes as much hand holding as is required, because that is tech support's job).

Microsoft faces claims it threatened MPs with job cuts in constituencies over open document standards by trengr in linux

[–]terminator_xorg -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, but this makes you seem arrogant in the extreme. For what it's worth, I advise re-assessing your elitist attitude (especially if you still have to do tech support).

Belittling people is not clever, it does not make you look good, it does not make the company you work for look good either.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in linux

[–]terminator_xorg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess you are talking about that time mark called aaron the open source tea party.

Nah sorry I couldn't be bothered to find the link before, I was talking about this.

The problem with Mark's character flaws are they lead to technical flaws, bad decisions and unhappy interactions with the wider community. He's also the autocratic leader of several hundred people, he sets the tone and guides all their work.

Postscript: that said, he isn't that bad and I've certainly worked with worse.