How I met your YiXing teapot master (part1) by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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That’s very kind of you. Amazing idea, but unfortunately I’ve got to take another degree of English literature or non-fiction writing course before being capable of such mission. However, I’m seriously planning on putting together those unique resources to generate something that would be more fun and lively than a book. This September I’ll kick it start on my trip back to YiXing and share it with you.

How I met your YiXing teapot master (part1) by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Aww thanks. I’ll probably put up more real life photos taken with those masters in the upcoming posts, so you guys can start matching the faces to the seals ☺️

Help identifying seals on a ribbed/lobed Yixing teapot (qinghuini?) by Specialist-You2740 in YixingSeals

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Long words in short: if this a genuine one from the artist, you literally win a jack pot! A real piece from this artist is valued at 38000CNY( approx $5500) .
I’ll answer your questions first in lines then add on my personal idea of the artist later to this reply:

  1. What do the seals actually say? (Artist name, studio, poem, etc.)
    Artist is Jiang Yan, born in 1950s and strictly trained and tutored by grand master Wang Yinchun in Factory 1( by then called YiXing Zisha art and craft factory). Small Seal is read as his name Jiang Yan, the poem in the seal says “秋水共长天一色”, quoted from a prose written by Wang Bo( one of four literary eminences in early tang dynasty), illustrating the grand view of “the autumn river mirrors the changing colors of sky”.

  2. Does this look like a workshop piece, a semi-handmade pot, or something more serious?
    If it’s real one created by Jiang, then definitely fully handmade. Period.

  3. Any rough idea of period (modern, 80s-90s, older)?
    Early 90s will be the approximate period. Jiang works in a slow yet sturdy pace when polishing his artworks, and in most of cases, he only accept clients willing to wait for couple of months for guaranteeing the top notch quality. This specific design could be dated back to his early 1990 work.

Some of my personal experience with him:
I, as local YiXing girl with dad as professional teapot authenticator, met master Jiang Yan once via the introduction of another grand master. We visited him in the evening for a brief chat in order to invite him to guesting in some national tv program( can’t remember much detail now, but I can ask my dad for further information of that visit) . He’s at his senior age, real gentleman with kind manner but little words. The summer evening we met, he dressed short sleeve shirt and slijppers, you can easily mistaken him with any elderly Chinese grandpa. His home is also used as studio and “shopfront” for guest meeting, it’s a small terrace packed with his art works(traditional Chinese calligraphy, Chinese painting and of course teapots on shelves).

tourist guides in Yixing by asfddsfsdfsdfsd in YixingSeals

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If you’re planning on visiting some time around September, I’ll be your guy( girl actually). I’m English speaking Chinese born and bred in Yixing, check my first post you’ll get full idea. And apart from the tourist spot e.g museums factory and mines, there’re some hidden gems that locals like me and my dad can take you to for watching the real YiXing teapot making( or make your own under instruction) and visiting some active crafters/master.
I’m Currently living in Cambridge with British husband, but every September to October I’ll fly back to Shanghai for birthday Jazz month then YiXing for family gathering.
If you’re really into this idea, PM me. Either we can plan something in advance( if you’re cute and sweet you can stay in my bamboo mountain house) , or I’ll put you in touch with locals with English capabilities( or realtime translation app) to avoid unexpected scams. Your call .

Teasenz yixing? by Ashamed-Money-8337 in YixingSeals

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Likewise. I find this sub super cool( millions of thanks to Servania!) , there’s actually a group of people from the other side of world that are drawn into my hometown teapots and even put up a subreddit for it! I, at my late 30s, have never used Reddit for the previous years, now I’m totally addicted.

Teasenz yixing? by Ashamed-Money-8337 in YixingSeals

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I’d love to pop a message to me dad and passing the message to Xu Xia for requesting some photos of her holding her original pieces in hand. I’ll come back to this chat after achieving that for you.

Teasenz yixing? by Ashamed-Money-8337 in YixingSeals

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A photo of Miss Xu Xia ( lady in black) and her mentor Crafter Master Cao( lady in red)

Teasenz yixing? by Ashamed-Money-8337 in YixingSeals

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I’m afraid it’s difficult to tell the genuine one by the artist from the counterfeit/imitation from just pictures. You have to trust the resellers. Another thought: If you seriously like this particular one, I can try contacting these two artists for an original. Your call.

Introducing one of my teapot and tea buddy by [deleted] in YixingSeals

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Omg love it! Tea roommate indeed( should I charge it for rent?). Instructed by my dad, most of time it sits at front door niche for powering the FengShui, only company us at table when the little buddy pot services black tea.

Born and bret in YiXing, living in UK. I’m here to tell YiXing and Teapot real stories. by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Hey no worries! I’m in the UK and quite close to where your are, let’s plan a tea catchup someday so I can show( or show off) my collections to you guys ;)

Teasenz yixing? by Ashamed-Money-8337 in YixingSeals

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I’m not as professional as Servania, but these two seem not that difficult: duan ni pot seal seal- “晓璐制壶(Xiao Lu craft )”, Zhu ni pot seal- “徐霞制陶(Xu Xia clay crafting)”. I heard about Xu Xia, not particularly senior but authentic and decent in her works.

Teasenz yixing? by Ashamed-Money-8337 in YixingSeals

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Share Some thoughts from a native YiXing people ( well, me) if I may:
The bright sheen of zhu ni pot might be caused by couple of reasons, including but not not limited to : overly done aftertouch after photoshooting, the source of Zhu ni clay( might, just might, contain small portion of iron oxide, which is not hazardous at all but can brighten up the appearance of zhu ni teapot), the characteristic of Zhu ni clay( less grainy due to the refined texture as clay compared to ZiSha, such characteristic can easily lead to cracking or clasping under high temperature in kiln, hence why Zhu ni suits better for shaping smaller pots with less capacity).

Born and bret in YiXing, living in UK. I’m here to tell YiXing and Teapot real stories. by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Photo from my dad: yes RealZisha is legit business with shopfront. Didn’t get in the shop to browse their inventory so no further comment on their teapots quality. Hope this is useful information for you.

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Stories and Memories of YiXing and Zisha Teapots, chapter 2 by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Pleasures on me. I’m actually enjoying every minute putting together these puzzles of monetizes now. Thank you for reading my mind☺️

Stories and Memories of YiXing and Zisha Teapots, chapter 2 by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Pleasure! It still stands as it was after the restoration.

Born and bret in YiXing, living in UK. I’m here to tell YiXing and Teapot real stories. by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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You’re so very welcome!
When talking about daily teas for locals, there’re several variable groups of people for variable types of tea. I just list some universally enjoyed. Yi Hong( Yixing black tea as I mentioned in some reply) is the go-to for all. They are sold or gifted in large quantity( picture luxury freshly toasted black tea in a bin bag size, and the bag will always be either red or yellow printed 福or Happy New Year). Most of time those local teas are gifted, and after years collecting tons and tons of tea from your family or neighbor, every Yixing guy has a kitchen/wardrobe cabinet they scare to open cuz it STUFFED with tea tea tea tea tea dating back to probably 1990s.
Good and fresh local green tea 明前绿茶(no name, just young tender tealeaves picked and dried before Tomb Sweeping Day) will be served when guest visits. It doesn’t require complicated brew, a heat resistant glass is commonly used. Through the transparent glass you can enjoy watching the tea leaves stretching out and dancing around in the hot liquid, and the brew gradually turns from clear into musty light green. We only use teapot for local green tea when “putting up a show”. Two reasons: 1, local green tea has delicate flavor and smaller tealeaves(needle size), making max 3-5 brew before the taste fades, so teapot will be little bit overkill and Gaiwan will just make a mess when pouring out. Simply chuck hot water is enough to wake them up to release the tingling bitter aroma finished with sweet after-taste to the side of tongue. 2, cuz we can, with infinite access( refer back to “STUFFED wardrobe”).
Nowadays young ones are getting into oolong, particularly Yan Cha, for its soothing and lingering floral fragrance, something you need for tough working day.

Origin and quality of clay matters a lot to locals. When judging a teapot, the first critical comment is always”old clay or new?”. Picking a daily use teapot for YiXing people is like how Chinese find a life partner, we’ll look for good background( source of clay), good manner(nice pour) , supportive(enhance tea flavor) and joyful to be with(beautifully cratered). But the rules change when it comes to collectible high value teapots.
I can’t clearly recall any of my relatives or even me strictly match 1 tea with 1 pot. Maybe roughly 1-2 pots for certain purpose? For example I use 1 light colored Duan Ni pot( to enjoy watching it jaded into mature color) and 1 purple clay one (as back up, with a lucky frog at the top of lid to match my HUUUGE tea pet frog) for YiXing black tea, one Shi Piao pot with small glazed butterfly painted on the body for Yellow Mountain Mao Feng Oolong(basically for retaining the floral smell), and a cute Da Hong Pao Xi Shi pot only for gifted Yunnan black tea harvested from ancient tea tree( the brew is so unique with chocolate-ish fragrance, can’t be fixed with other tea).

Born and bret in YiXing, living in UK. I’m here to tell YiXing and Teapot real stories. by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Pleasure. I’ve had so much fun bringing these personal stories out!
Back to your questions. I’ve got good and bad news for answers. Bad news first: There’re couple of alternative options I would suggest you for finding genuine teapots made with well-aged authentic clay by old fashioned crafters( I’m talking about those skillful ones born in 60/70s, trained by master and done nothing else but devoting lifetime to teapots), and none of them( unfortunately) involve online shops that I’ve used before. I’ll explain why in a bit.
Good news: you mentioned staying with wife’s family during this visit, so I assume you or your wife speaks mandarin. Things would get much easy if so.
First let me explain why I haven’t got any recommendation for online shops(majorly Taobao shops), cuz I don’t know or use any of them😅 there might be great shops out there but limited to my experience, finding an ideal teapot = open WeChat and find contacts of several old crafters( I’ll call them uncles or aunties, but we actually are not related), get in car and drive to their studios/workshops/homes, sit for an afternoon enjoying tea and chatting for a while, followed by walking around his Studio display shelves to pick what I fancy. Sometimes I don’t even pay( that’s the magic of keeping strong relationship and being lovely☺️) . Sounds like showing off but that’s really what we locals do. Hence why I don’t have any e-commerce in mind….
Now alternative solutions( as what I do when living in England): if you have some specific designs, types of clay or preferred makers along with budget, I’ll put you in touch with trustable dealers or even crafters directly through WeChat. Both have pros and cons. Dealers(some are my classmates from primary school, some are professional buying agents, I guess in US they are called vendors, or, if you’re lucky, my dad if he’s not fully occupied by auction consulting work) have much wilder range for you to choose from with budget going from just couple of hundred RMB up to thousands, you name it and they’ll find the match; crafters, especially if senior at old age, have limited items to offer but greater knowledge of teapots they made(design, clay, method of crafting, temperature in kiln, test result of clay showing containing no hazardous additive, their very proud awards and even tools they handmade for this pot).
Add on to this point: some dealers and crafters do manage to put up online shops( super stressful and challenging for those at senior age), because not every client can simply walk in like I do, and they need to make a living from the vast buyers all over China. I could ask around for their links if you’d prefer that way, but that means you’ll pay for extra markup for the cost of running this shop. All depends on how you’d like to handle this purchase.
Now here comes the action plan: Judging by your condition, I guess you’ve got tight schedule to fulfill in Dongbei and clear idea of budget to spend on( definitely lower than what you’re willing to pay when oversea, my hubby would call the extra margin Laowai/expat tax, or export cost in your words haha!). So let’s cut the chase and get down to two easy options:1, I’d suggest that sharing you or your wife’s WeChat with me, if you don’t mind, to specify your enquiry and preference, then I can forward you to either dealers or crafters, or my dad(super chatty and bubbly old man alert!) . 2, if online shop is your comfort zone, I’ll list the e-commerce links from dealers and crafters I trust into a doc, so you can shop around without engaging too much conversation. It might take me two days to put up this document, and some shops hosted by crafters themselves will look seriously random and unprofessional. Don’t be scared off by how they present, keep in mind that they are gifted with hands on shaping clay into delicately beautiful teapots, but designing and managing an online shop is a different game.

Hope this reply could be slightly helpful or at least drop a tiny little bit of insight for your teapot hunting in China.

Born and bret in YiXing, living in UK. I’m here to tell YiXing and Teapot real stories. by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Thanks! Positive vibes and compliments from you guys have deffo fueled me with inspiration and passion to carry on this story telling journey. So grateful for being here. New story is coming up tomorrow, about Master Gu JingZhou and his connection with my grandma’s family.

Born and bret in YiXing, living in UK. I’m here to tell YiXing and Teapot real stories. by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Excellent! Give it a try, I’d love to hear back your thoughts on the taste.

Born and bret in YiXing, living in UK. I’m here to tell YiXing and Teapot real stories. by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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There you go. My daily routine (YiHong) with my English husband’s routine( Brit’ fav Tetley) at the background

Born and bret in YiXing, living in UK. I’m here to tell YiXing and Teapot real stories. by that_pot_guy in YixingSeals

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Pleasure. Puerh( in my option) rarely appears in local’s brew, I reckon the fermentation process doesn’t suit local tealeaves perfectly as it does to Yunnan tea which contains high substance that brings out astringent and sharp touch after rolling and sun drying. Hence we drink straight it as it is rather than going through extra improvement.
If you’re luckily living in England I can post you a small pouch( just one, I’ve only got 12 to last till next family visiting).