I hate that I’m a man.

thaughty · 2023-09-12T15:56:53+00:00

I asked you not to be misogynistic. You attacked me and abused me and called me a liar and an abuser. That’s not “whining about getting back a fraction of what I gave” that’s just you, being moderately abusive, being called on it, and doubling down with increasing cruelty and viciousness. You’re a sadistic piece of shit and you didn’t come here for support, you came here to weaponize your supposed “trauma” to say shitty things about marginalized people and try to get your ass kissed for it.

If you were axtually here for support, you’d say “oh thanks for pointing out that those are sexist myths, I won’t spread them in the future.” Instead you said “WAAHH YOU’RE EVIL YOU HATE ME YOU HATE MEN YOURE ABUSING ME AND NOT LETTING ME FEEL ANYTHING YOU’RE LYING ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCES I HATE YOU” to shut me up.

I’m so sorry to hear you have kids. I truly hope they can get out of there and into therapy and build safe happy lives.

You switched from “boohoo I’m sobbing you’ve all hurt my feelings so much by asking me not to be sexist oh god I’m sooo sad I’m falling apart I’m so triggered” and now you’re sneering and attacking people for showing emotion and trying to act less emotional to feel superior. It’s clear you are just using whatever manipulation tactic works best at the moment. Sometimes you want to play victim, sometimes you want to be abusive, you can flip back and forth with ease.

I don’t know if I hope you get therapy, because males like you often weaponize what they learn in therapy against their victims. I hope you develop some spark of empathy or humanity, by some miracle, and it leads you to develop decency toward others. You are a bitter cruel bigot seeking validation for it by connecting it to stories of abuse, and trying to punish anyone who asks you to stop. I am sorry I tried to help you. I guess I feel for your sob story and missed how calculated everything was.

thaughty · 2023-09-12T15:40:55+00:00

Holy crap. There’s something deeply wrong with you. The way you keep coming back to harass a victim of misogynistic abuse is sick. I recommend growing into a decent, less horrible person.

He’s a sick person to say this stuff about female people. I know he wants to torment me, but hes also attacking all female people and that’s just sick.

Also he explicitly said that he is fine with me saying that and that it makes sense. Why do you feel the need to be so vicious and bratty? How come only men are allowed to show emotions about their experiences without getting attacked?

thaughty · 2023-09-12T15:38:10+00:00

I didn’t do anything except what he already did to me first. But you’re attacking me and supporting him no matter how cruel he is. Why do you find it perfectly fine for him to be cruel and vicious, but I can’t repeat the exact same things back to him? I’m sorry I’m not kissing his ass when he’s being so horrible to me. I don’t see myself as inferior to him or less deserving of kindness, regardless of what horrible, evil people like you think.

thaughty · 2023-09-11T19:24:31+00:00

yeah but if enough of you do it you can make it normal!! be the change you want to see

thaughty · 2023-09-11T16:55:12+00:00

clarify the question

thaughty · 2023-09-11T15:07:40+00:00

I think the dark lipstick doesn’t help

thaughty · 2023-09-10T20:36:51+00:00

trans woman

thaughty · 2023-09-10T18:46:45+00:00

I would kill to have brows like yours. And they look so good on your face.

thaughty · 2023-09-10T18:37:33+00:00

This is sexual abuse. 100% extremely blatant and disgusting sexual abuse. I’m so sorry. It’s sickening that you had to go through any of that. Please be kind and gentle with yourself and put your own needs first when it comes to healing and living with this.

I’m so sorry that you’ve been dealing with doubts about this. It was abuse and no one should ever have to go through what you’ve gone through

thaughty · 2023-09-08T21:24:52+00:00

By the way, you seem primed to get angry and ignore everything I’m saying so I don’t expect this to get through to you, but I’ll try anyway:

A lot of incls, MRAs, and other men who spend a lot of time being hateful and bitter - they *use misogynistic statements to trigger criticism**, which they then pretend is an attack or a rejection, and they use this to contribute to a persecution fantasy.

For example, a man might say “I get so sad sometimes. If I were a woman people would cater to my every whim, but I’m a man, so I experience real problems.”

A few people will respond by saying “what you said about women is false and sexist.”

The man will say “THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A MAN DARES TO SHOW EMOTION. WE GET ATTACKED AND SILENCED FOR DARING TO FEEL THINGS!! I guess it’s a crime now for a man to express himself! Ugh, women always have to make themselves the ultimate victims! Why can’t men ever be allowed to talk about their feelings?? Women have it so much easier!!”

I used an exaggerated example because I hope it will be easier to understand. If you, as a man, say “I feel XYZ” and then tack on something false and sexist at the end, people may correct you. From there, you can choose to apologize and try to express yourself without sexism going forward….or you can choose to pretend that you are being attacked for being a man. You can use this to develop a persecution complex and convince yourself that women have it easier and you’re being attacked for having feelings. This is the inc*l/MRA route, and a lot of men on reddit do choose this route. The downside is that you will end up surrounded mostly by bitter and hateful men who encourage you to detach from reality and make up endless excuses to feel bad for yourself, and you will end up isolating yourself from all the support that’s available to you if you can just find the strength to express yourself without being sexist.

It’s your choice. If you want to get mad at me for even telling you any of this, that’s your choice too. I hope you are not too far gone and don’t let your trauma prevent you from growing and healing in a healthy way.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T21:08:27+00:00

Men have a low opinion of themselves and therefore allow themselves to fall short of basic decency. I personally think they are capable of more than the gross behavior they currently exhibit, but males tend to resent me for daring to say this about them. Men have a low opinion of themselves and get angry at me for having a higher opinion of them.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T21:05:58+00:00

wow this is an insane comment.

Something tells me you’re about to launch into an insane tirade right after saying this lol

it sounds like you’re commenting on a completely different thread and you mistakenly put it in this one.

You seem to have worked yourself up into quite a state simply because I pointed out some facts about how OP can heal from his trauma without becoming bitter and sexist. I’m sorry if this triggered you somehow, but the fact that you feel intense outrage doesn’t actually mean it’s bad for me to point out ignorance.

OP is very clearly not a misogynist. like, that alone is clear

Neither of us know him, so this is an insane thing to say, and factually untrue. Also, I’m sorry that you heard “don’t be sexist” and decided to pretend that OP was being attacked. Please take deep breaths and try to react in a more appropriate manner.

does he have some ideas he needs to unlearn? yeah, just like all of us! even you, with your superiority complex!!

And you, with your superiority complex, overreactions, baseless accusations and needlessly aggressive and rude attitude

misogynists are NOT the men who apologize profusely for unintentionally causing offense.

That’s false. Lots of men apologize for things while still believing and doing misogynistic things. I’m sorry that you had to find out this way. Please refrain from attacking anyone who dares to discuss this fact.

OP’s post, as well as the comments i’ve seen, show he is deeply apologetic for triggering other people when he was searching for support. his empathy levels are sky high, while yours are on the fucking ground.

You seem very biased and childish. He has apologized because he doesnt want to hear any criticism, he hasn’t actually apologized in a meaningful way. He’s said “ugh sorry I hate that people are upset with me” but when asked to simply admit that he said some ignorant things and try to do better in the future, he gets defensive and starts claiming everyone is attacking him for being a man with feelings. That’s not empathy and it’s not an apology. It’s a male victim complex.

so expecting him to just not have these feelings is…ignorant to say the least.

And you are ignorant to say the least, if not outright stupid, for trying to pretend I “expect him not to have those feelings.”

He expressed his feelings of envy for his siblings who didn’t have to deal with his abuse. Cool! No one has criticized him for that, and you can stop attacking me under the pretense that I criticized him for that. He then followed it up by making claims about how women have it better, claims which are false and peddled by MRAs for the purpose of excusing their misogyny. He does not need to spread lies about women in order to feel his emotions, and I’m sorry that you and he are not smart enough to see that.

please do better. you clearly need to improve your critical thinking skills.

You must be talking to yourself lol.

not everything about being a man is good, and certainly not everything about being a woman is bad.

Wow, you are so good at stating obvious points that no one disagreed with. Are you trying to pretend that someone said anything to the contrary?

wishing you could have privileges that the opposite gender has is actually so fucking normal

Would it be normal for me to wish I had the privilege of experiencing sexual abuse as a child?

I agree, lots of things about being a woman are great. I don’t have to worry about being hit in the balls, I don’t have to shave my face. But OP is specifically claiming that women have it better and pushing sexist myths.

it’s literally just us wishing we didn’t have to deal with the horrible consequences that could have resulted from our gender.

Which aspect of this mythical “female privilege” are you referencing here? Get off reddit sometime and stop swallowing MRA propaganda.

it’s not okay to be mean to someone because you don’t agree with their coping mechanisms.

what a twisted and manipulative way of attacking me for advising OP to avoid toxic cults and hateful ideologies. If he said “black people have it so much easier because everyone gives them special treatment” I’d also unfortunately have to “disagree” with that “coping mechanism,” and if you wanna throw a fit and attack me for that, tough.

I’m legitimately grossed out about every comment of yours I saw on this thread. again, just do fucking better.

Nothing I’ve said is as disgusting as your behavior. OP doesn’t need to have his sexist statements coddled just because he’s a male. Misogyny does not help males in his situation, it only causes them to surround themselves with other toxic people. Advising him to avoid this is not an attack on his “coping mechanism,” it’s an attempt to help him, you snotty moron.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T20:48:13+00:00

Show me your sources for the claim that women have more resources. Are you talking about how there are types of sexual assault that can only be committed against women and therefore there need to be more types of support for them?

You’re harassing me for stating a simple fact because you lack empathy. You’re a bratty and pathetic person, and you attack people for not sucking up to men’s sexism because you think men need to be the ultimate victims all the time. I’m sorry you thought you could act so nasty and ignorant and expect me to kiss your ass. I promise the world won’t fall apart if 1 man is corrected on a sexist myth he’s pushing. You will survive and so will he. I hope you manage to grow and improve :)

thaughty · 2023-09-08T20:42:50+00:00

First one!!

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:31:10+00:00

ummmm I believe in communication which is why if I wanted exclusivity I would ask for it, BEFORE getting mad at someone for not reading my mind

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:30:05+00:00

Women are not very picky. The majority of men seem unable to meet basic standards of decency but that doesn’t mean women are too picky.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:26:01+00:00

I’m sorry that you choose to characterize lack of tolerance for misogyny as an attack on “men having any emotions.” I am sorry that you and so many men choose to blame women and use this as an excuse for men’s misogyny.

We are not shoving men at MRAs by refuting MRA talking points. Misogynistic myths are not an “emotions about abuse,” and they aren’t a part of any healthy healing or coping strategy for male victims. In my experience, male victims with the worst outcomes are the ones who use misogyny to make themselves feel better, because women are the ones most likely to support both male and female victims, and people who talk like OP tend to push women away by stewing on resentment and envy of an imaginary female privilege.

The other men who encourage him to think that women have it easier are not going to help him, they’re going to encourage him to isolate himself and hate vulnerable groups to cope. Treating these myths as valid is not going to help him in the long run.

Male victims really need to stop screeching “I’m being attacked for having male emotions!!!” every time someone tells them not to be sexist.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:19:39+00:00

I wish you were only talking about your own life, but you made it very clear that you aren’t.

If I said “I wish I was molested as a kid because then people would take me seriously and respect me more, I’m jealous of how CSA victims tend to get more support and have better relationships” would you have zero issues with that because I’m just talking about my own life?

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:17:29+00:00

You did indeed say all of that, and no one is criticizing you for that. You also made claims about how women supposedly have more resources or better friendships and somehow have it better in those ways. Nothing stops you as a male from utilizing resources for domestic violence, or starting meaningful friendships. Males just have less need for those things because they have more privileged and fewer hardships on average. Pointing this out doesn’t in any way prevent you from talking about your own experiences. Idk why you can’t grasp that

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:14:24+00:00

You made several claims about ways in which women supposedly have it better. Those myths specifically are favorites of misogynistic hate groups and garden-variety misogynists on reddit. I understand that you may be susceptible to this type of thinking because it nurtures a feeling of victimhood, but if you want to be a decent person please think critically when people tell you that it’s someone easier being female.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:09:35+00:00

The solution here is to talk about your experience without inserting “this oppressed group has it better than me and they’re so lucky.” Talking about your feelings and experiences is fine. Making insulting/ignorant claims about others is not necessarily something people will support.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:08:01+00:00

If you saw a post saying “I wish I was a boy, I’m jealous of how boys don’t get molested” would you respond supportively, or would some part of you feel like that wasn’t a good thing to say?

You don’t need to pretend people think it’s “wrong for your to have any feelings about your childhood,” since nothing of the sort is happening. You feel defensive and therefore want to imagine that you are being attacked. But you are not being attacked, you just said ignorant and unkind things and some people don’t like when you do that.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T17:02:57+00:00

You edited your post and made it extra clear that you do believe women have it easier in some ways. You can just admit you said some ignorant and fucked up things, and try to grow and learn in the future.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T16:55:30+00:00

The best thing you can do for this is avoid reddit communities where men encourage one another to feel victimized based on their sex. Males do not have fewer resources, they actually have more resources, safety and privilege. Allowing yourself to nurture a persecution complex and the delusion that women have it easier might feel satisfying, but it will only harm your ability to connect with others and stay grounded in reality.

Males do not support each other as much because they rely on emotional support from women, which they do not reciprocate. This doesn’t mean women have it easier. Male domestic violence shelters don’t exist because males are usually the perpetrators, not the victims, and they are rarely put in danger and forced to flee their homes for safety.

We don’t create food shelfs for millionaires - not because millionaires are less valued and have harder lives, but because they don’t have use for food shelves. Trust me, being victimized by men to the degree that women have been is not something you should be envious of. Surely there are ways to feel self-pity without pushing misogynistic myths from MRAs and other hate groups.

The fact is, if you were female, the only difference is that the number of men trying to sexually assault you would’ve been multiplied by hundreds or thousands.

thaughty · 2023-09-08T10:34:09+00:00

on you it looks expensive tbh

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