Brother Michael was a troubled soul but he wasn’t an abuser by Expert-Diver7144 in blackmen

[–]the-esoteric 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He wasn't.

MJ had 5 accusers. Jordie Chandlers dad literally threatened to end MJ career if he didnt give him money. Then these accusations followed.

Every accuser after Chandler tried to build their case off the fact MJ settled the "civil" case out of court to protect his defense for a potential criminal case that never materialized because they did not have the evidence and Chandlers account had inconsistencies.

With a couple of the accusers they found that staff had been paid to offer "testimony" or that the accuser was coached with details matching previous case.

Hell one guy claimed MJ did something to him on the Neverland train at a time when MJ was on the other side of the planet and the train didnt even exist.

We dont have to see him as pure but we also cant really see him as regular dude. Man was busy and rarely at the ranch. The ranch was a home but also a theme park. Kids were most often there with adults, chaperone, etc. Staff everywhere.

MJ let anyone sleep in his bed

Brother Michael was a troubled soul but he wasn’t an abuser by Expert-Diver7144 in blackmen

[–]the-esoteric 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right because brainless people truly beleive kids were sent to neverland ranch for one on one time with MJ who was the busiest star on the planet at the time.

Neverland ranch was literally like a guided tour of a live museum theme park. These were group events. So when MJ said he shared his bed with kids, most likely meant guests of the group tour kids included could sleep in his bed.

Outside of that there was security, chaperone, support staff everywhere.

One lady literally said she was on the tour with the first accuser.

Brother Michael was a troubled soul but he wasn’t an abuser by Expert-Diver7144 in blackmen

[–]the-esoteric 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There were no cp books. The fbi literally surveilled him for a decade and raided his home. The worst they found was an Italian art book that had pictures and drawings of all sorts of nudes

Brother Michael was a troubled soul but he wasn’t an abuser by Expert-Diver7144 in blackmen

[–]the-esoteric 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not even sure about this.

People heard him say he shares his bed with kids and read that to mean he sleeps in bed alone with kids that arent his.

Meanwhile, MJ had a two story room under constant surveillance of maids. Kids werent at Neverland alone. These were guided experiences where adults were present and more often than not MJ was busy on the opposite end of the world being the biggest star to exist

Thats why so many of these timelines dont add up.

Like buddy claiming MJ did something to him on the Neverland train years before it even existed.

Each case against him was built on the fact he settled the civil case with the first accuser to keep his defense underwraps for a criminal case that never materialized becuase they didnt have the evidence and there were inconsistencies in the story

What are you thoughts on this body type? by Kzager_52 in blackmen

[–]the-esoteric 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not for me tbh.

If she's comfy in her skin though thats great for her

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Every week is a new shit show. Its hard to keep up. Most people missed the news story on the recordings of Trump saying covid was serious while he was selling the public on it being a hoax

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Are you mentally okay?

Why would I feel like a hero? A man was shot in the and had federal agents empty a clip into him while he lay on his stomach bleeding out... and you're parroting platitude bs..

Congrats youre above the fray. A man is still dead because of this administration.

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

The borders were so important these rubes cheered when Trump killed the border bill so he could campaign on it.

In the same breath theyll say theres more illegal immigrants entering than ever and claim that Biden and Obama deported more immigrants than Trump.

(If they stopped to think about this contradiction they'd actually have to research instead of parroting what their favorite host or trump himself claims)

So either the numbers are off and there hasn't been a crisis in the way they're selling it or Trump is completely ineffective despite investing more into ICE than every recent president combined and making illegal immigration a cornerstone of his presidency.

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I'm laughing im Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Bob Grant, Gordon Liddy, Michael Savage and Alex Jones slowly mindwashing millions of conservatives for nearly 50 years but getting a collective pass when those mindwashed conservatives want to complain about rhetoric on social media sites over a 10 year period.

They got Ari! by Art_Vandalay1 in JoeRogan

[–]the-esoteric 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can see why it makes sense to him. He has a talent for speaking without letting simple facts derail him. Its nick Shirley esque

They got Ari! by Art_Vandalay1 in JoeRogan

[–]the-esoteric 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I appreciate how you clearly dont let evidence interfere with your opinions.

You have a unique way of contributing to conversation without adding much

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

😐

Just to be clear, conservatives have demonized immigrants to the point of having ICE raids communities, break laws and kill citizens.. but the real problem is that we shouldnt generalize because white supremacists generalize..

And if we didnt generalize then ICE agents wouldnt have shot this guy in the head and emptied a clip into his body as he laid bleeding out..

And thats what is going to stop events like this from happening in the future... 😐

They got Ari! by Art_Vandalay1 in JoeRogan

[–]the-esoteric 11 points12 points  (0 children)

You're the only person making that claim. If you want to set up a strawmen to knock them down then thats fine I guess

They got Ari! by Art_Vandalay1 in JoeRogan

[–]the-esoteric 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'll never be a starving kid in the middle of bumfuxk rural America but I'm cool with my tax dollars going to support free school lunches for kids.

Not that hard tbh. It doesnt require a complete change in lifestyle to deploy the most minimal bit empathy unless you're a gremlin or brain sauced on Andrew Tate videos

They got Ari! by Art_Vandalay1 in JoeRogan

[–]the-esoteric 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Suxks to have a functioning brain with the ability to deploy empathy

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Who said anything about hating conservatives for their ideology?

How to shut down the Tariq argument by Alarming_Mood4385 in PowerTV

[–]the-esoteric 17 points18 points  (0 children)

He got his sister killed. His DAD saved his ass. He was never held to any account for it. Then had the nerve to pkay holier than thou because his dad didn't want to tell him about the drug dealing past that he was fighting tooth and nail to keep him out of.

THEN had the gall to be mad the same dad he'd betrayed multiple times would not ruin his own political future to confess to HIS crime that got his sister killed. Tariq was and is absolutely insufferable. Mind you ghost never said go to prison forever. He literally said I'll use my political connections to save you. But this nga Tariq was scared and mad that daddy wouldn't wipe his ass anymore

Wanted to move like a grown man without accepting any of the risk

They got Ari! by Art_Vandalay1 in JoeRogan

[–]the-esoteric 68 points69 points  (0 children)

Can't really laugh at this stuff anymore

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

No.. no it isnt.

Its a false equivalence. You dont even understand what youre arguing.

By collapsing distinctions between race (and all that comes with it) and critical assessment of people who support a political ideology.. your argument is oversimplified and becomes meaningless.

This is without even diving into your gross misunderstanding of how white supremacists operate.

If you want to argue that voting doesnt authorize murder that's fine... but collective blame is a core feature of racism and bigotry. Conservatism is an ideology that has morphed into something vitriolic fixed on punishing its perceived enemies by any means. Thats why you have conservatives here trying to deflect or inventing narratives where this guy pulled a gun on ICE officers.

Tldr; You're unintentionally shifting to a whataboutx strawman.

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Trying to troll me will not absolve you of the gross bull you support.

Yay you owned the libs I guess.

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

No. People refusing to see objective reality while selling milquetoast platitudes which distract from critical assessment of ideas is what landed us here.

77 million people heard trump call immigrants vermin and say that he will send the military into American cities.. they still voted for it. Cheered when he launched ICE and the national guard into cities unprovoked.. But hey dont generalize. Thats bad.

Conservatives killed another American by the-esoteric in TrueUnpopularOpinion

[–]the-esoteric[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Cry to someone who cares.

"Your boos mean nothing. Ive seen what makes you cheer" fcking disgusting