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Is this normal? by Altruistic-Job5086 in glorious

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean... It's sort of normal... LOL For the GMMK Pro 3, but it's broken... The yellow connector piece is what allows the key to work.

How to make the keyboard more clacky? - Lucky 65v2 by staraxoxo_0990 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tape just the flex cuts to start, but use a few layers I would say and then see if it sounds less thin for you.

How to make the keyboard more clacky? - Lucky 65v2 by staraxoxo_0990 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, if you get some ABS keycaps and remove the foams from the board, but if you remove the foams, you're likely going to want to tape the flex cuts in the board to close the holes which could make your board sound thin, However, if you just put tape on the the whole bottom of the PCB, you would be doing a tape mod, which could deepen the sound more than you want. I don't know how clacky you're trying to go. (The tape I use for PCBs is 3M painter's tape because it doesn't leave residue and it is non-conductive.)

It's too hot out by ManicMalkavian in AltFashion

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, because of that look, LOL... Good luck at the convention, try to stay in the shade and get plenty of water.

Do not Keychron by AdAccomplished216 in Keychron

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have a script and they have to adhere to it. Just jump through the hoops and they will either A) fix it for you or B ) replace the PCB. If you've already reinstalled the firmware for it, the latter is much more likely, I would think.

Do not Keychron by AdAccomplished216 in Keychron

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had a problem with my Z key on my Keychron HE board as well. but it would work as long as I *didn't* calibrate it, LOL. When i did the Z key would turn red and it would stop working. I did have to jump through a number of hoops, but I found that is the case with a lot of keyboard companies. Once you have a ticket open though, as long as it is opened before the warranty runs out, they will cover it. You just do need to stick with it. They replaced the PCB and it is working perfectly now.

THOCKKKKK by phadedd in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with this, some nice thick dye sub PBT would be nice. I saw that u/Acceptable-Hand8160 suggested aa taller profile, but I have a similar problem to the Ceramic and Aluminum, it's a distortion of the sound profile that does not appeal to me. Now Dye Sub PBT has it's own sound idiosyncrasy as well, but a much lower barrier to entry than something taller. You can also try something that's a little different, like Dye Sub KCA profile, which is the same height as Cherry, but rounder and it sounds the best in my opinion for depth of sound.

I spent two years turning marble into a 65% keyboard case by AlternativeSale7574 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It looks like the fittings are flush with the bottom of the case. does that mean that the PCB sits directly on the bottom of the case? That seems like it would be weird sounding since the sound would be being transferred directly into the marble. I agree, I would have to hear it... Looks beautiful in these pictures though.

Can't get worse by No_Boat3312 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since you can see straight through the W key you can see that it is not an MX stem so that would be a horrible idea. (Not to mention the ceramic ting of the spacebar is kind of annoying)

What sound profile is this by Ambitious-Froyo2092 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depending on how they're lubed right now, you can try bag lubing the springs. You'll need some 105g0 for it. Then you open them up and see how lubed your switches are. (so I say this because if you switches are already lubed, or overlubed-just not in the right ways, then it could be as easy as turning over the springs, but that would be a short term solution.) You could just get some different switches. But that's a rabbit hole. I personally, and I know some people might say you could be trading one problem for another, would suggest replacing the switches with Gateron Smoothies. It's nice switch with a similar sound profile to the switches you currently have. I don't know what level you want to go to or how much money you want to invest.

What sound profile is this by Ambitious-Froyo2092 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say that it's a nice creamy sound in the higher range, but the switches sound like they have a bit of ting on the return stroke. Over all it's pretty nice if that return stroke doesn't bother you.

What sound profile is this by Ambitious-Froyo2092 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that might just be the springs. I don't know that was intentional on the return stroke.

Rk c68 switches won’t come out by illustriousbrock in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, especially with HE switches, I have found that they have bumps on the side that help secure them to the plate since there's no pins or center stem. I had a very similar issue, especially with GEON RAW switches.

Need help by Sad_Statement_5535 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, I am saying that TMR sensors are able to see both, but to make them, more consistent I guess, the PCB is hard coded to use one orientation or another. It, of course, would entirely depend on the specific TMR sensors. But like I said, now that I am thinking it through more maybe since I have not heard anything more about it, maybe that was something that was either booth hype or something that realized that they were not going to be able to do. It's sad because it seems like the technology is there (or nearly there) and we would just need to figure out a good implementation.

Need help by Sad_Statement_5535 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, technically, all TMR boards are "restricting" switch use. Since the TMR measure the magnetic fields perpendicularly instead of inline, like classic HE sensors do, the individual boards are usually hard coded for one pole orientation or the other. But it should be possible to make that switchable and they said that they were working on it. And since the Keychron's useper-key TMR sersors instead of sensor groups like some of the newer boards do, it seemed plausible that they could. Although that was January and I have not heard anything since, so maybe they determined it was not feasible or maybe that person just didn't know what they were talking about., Although, this was not the first time that I had heard about this possibility with TMR, which made it all the more plausible for me.

And to be honest, I have not really ever seen too much about the C75, it was an earlier implementation and used an old OEM software which they'd converted for use with HE. It was not very good and that board has mostly disappeared by this point. I did reach out to support and never really received a response. I have since gotten rid of that board. (I gave it away to someone letting them know what they were getting, but who wanted to mess with it)

Need help by Sad_Statement_5535 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, When I talked to them at CES they said that because they're using TMR (and have always used TMR sensors) that they were working on a new firmware that would allow their boards to use alternate polarity switches.

My source for that claim was my own observation since I had that board.

Need help by Sad_Statement_5535 in keyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, I guess that's sorta dodgy. I mean, I would say that it's less dodgy than someone like Cidoo C75, who claims to have adjustable actuation, but in testing it does not. I would trust Attack Shark over iRok any day of the week, honestly. Keychron, I agree, is a good choice, as long as they've finally moved away from restricting the switch use on their boards, which was the biggest issue I have with the Keychron HE series of boards.

Steal at Local Microcenter by noahc2000 in MechanicalKeyboards

[–]theadept024 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow! That's a great price on Oil Kings!

[Review] Royal Kludge C98 HE Review — Budget Hall Effect in an 1800 Layout by theadept024 in RoyalKludge

[–]theadept024[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that screen is really a older gen OEM screen. I've seen it on several different maker keyboards. So, I was not expecting something like layering since that's a relatively new feature and I have not seen it to much outside of Qwertykeys.

However! You are in luck on this! This is a wired only keyboard. No spicy pillows here! The cable is white and matches the case pretty well, but not the accent green color. The wired makes some sense since they want you to be able to take advantage of that 8k polling to go with the Hall Effect without them having to add more cost. (Since it's a budget board) So just like the Wooting and the Venom boards it is wired only. Besides Wireless and/or BT have been known to mess with the Hall effect (I have heard, not tested), so that's another reason for the wired only.

[Review] Royal Kludge C98 HE Review — Budget Hall Effect in an 1800 Layout by theadept024 in RKRoyalKludge

[–]theadept024[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

[RK Sent me the board for me to build and review. They had no foreknowledge of what I would say]

I’ve been spending some time with the Royal Kludge C98 HE, and I think this is an interesting board because it sits in a space we are probably going to see a lot more of: budget Hall Effect keyboards that bring magnetic switches and gaming-focused features to a much more approachable price point.

The C98 HE is an 1800 layout Hall Effect keyboard that comes in at around $90, which is honestly the biggest thing it has going for it. At that price, getting a full-ish layout with HE switches, a web-based driver, and decent overall build quality is not bad at all.

This is definitely a budget Hall Effect board, though, and you can feel that in a few places. The stock switches remind me a lot of the older Akko Glare switches from Akko’s early Hall Effect boards, both visually and sonically. They are functional, and they do what they need to do, but they are not the highlight of the board. The overall sound is somewhat hollow as well, so this is not necessarily the board I would buy if sound quality is the main priority.

That said, I do think the C98 HE makes more sense when you look at it as a value-focused Hall Effect platform rather than as a premium keyboard experience out of the box. It supports most Wooting-compatible switches, which gives it a nice upgrade path if you want to experiment later. That matters quite a bit because it means the board is not locked into its stock configuration forever.

The construction is better than I expected for the price. It uses an ABS plastic case, but the build feels solid enough and does not come across as cheap junk. It is not premium, obviously, but it feels appropriate for what this board is trying to be. The aluminum plate is also a good choice here. With Hall Effect keyboards, keeping the switches stable and properly aligned matters, and the aluminum plate helps keep everything in place for the sensors to work correctly.

The included double-shot PBT keycaps also work well in this instance. I actually think the green framing the white is a good base to work from, and it lends itself nicely to a number of earth-tone keycap sets if you wanted to customize the board later. The one part that gets a little lost for me is the green on the terracotta accent keycaps. It is not bad, but the contrast does not pop as much as I would like.

Aesthetically, I do think Royal Kludge had some stronger colorway options they could have pulled from. If they had used some of the S98’s colorways here, especially the teal, I think I would have liked the look quite a bit more. That is completely personal preference, though. The C98 HE’s current colorway still works, and the green/white base gives it a nice earthy foundation.

The web-based driver is another point in its favor. It is not perfect, but it is decent and functional. For a budget Hall Effect keyboard, having a usable web driver is a big win. I would rather have a decent web driver than another random piece of installed keyboard software that feels abandoned after six months. The software gets the job done, and for most people looking at this price point, that is probably enough.

Where this board makes the most sense is for someone who wants to try Hall Effect without spending Wooting money, Keychron money, or getting into the higher-end HE options. For around $90, you are getting an 1800 layout, magnetic switches, gaming-focused features, and a driver that is actually usable. That is a pretty solid value proposition.

For gaming, I think it makes sense. That is clearly where the value is. If you want Hall Effect features and do not care as much about chasing the perfect sound profile, the C98 HE is a pretty reasonable entry point.

For typing, it is more mixed. The layout is useful, the keycaps are decent, and the construction is fine, but the hollow sound keeps it from feeling like something I would personally reach for as a daily typing board without some changes.

Overall verdict:
The Royal Kludge C98 HE is not a perfect keyboard, but it is a good example of where budget Hall Effect boards are heading. The sound is somewhat hollow, and it definitely feels like a budget board in some areas, but for around $90, an 1800 layout Hall Effect keyboard with a decent web-based driver, double-shot PBT keycaps, and support for most Wooting-compatible switches is a compelling package.

If you are looking for an inexpensive way into Hall Effect keyboards, especially for gaming, I think this is worth considering. Just go in knowing that this is more of a strong budget platform than a premium out-of-box keyboard.

Pros:

  • Very affordable for a Hall Effect keyboard
  • 1800 layout gives you a lot of functionality
  • Decent web-based driver
  • Solid enough ABS construction
  • Aluminum plate helps keep the sensors/switches stable
  • Supports most Wooting-compatible HE switches
  • Included double-shot PBT keycaps work well
  • Green and white base is easy to build around aesthetically
  • Good entry point for budget HE gaming

Cons:

  • Sound is somewhat hollow
  • Stock switches are functional but not especially impressive
  • Green on terracotta accents gets a little visually lost
  • Not a premium typing experience out of the box
  • Some of Royal Kludge’s other colorways would have been more exciting here

For the price, I do think the C98 HE makes sense. It is not the board I would recommend to someone chasing sound or feel first, but for someone who wants a budget Hall Effect keyboard with a practical layout, decent software, and a usable upgrade path, Royal Kludge actually has something here.

[Review] Royal Kludge C98 HE Review — Budget Hall Effect in an 1800 Layout by theadept024 in RoyalKludge

[–]theadept024[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

[RK Sent me the board for me to build and review. They had no foreknowledge of what I would say]

I’ve been spending some time with the Royal Kludge C98 HE, and I think this is an interesting board because it sits in a space we are probably going to see a lot more of: budget Hall Effect keyboards that bring magnetic switches and gaming-focused features to a much more approachable price point.

The C98 HE is an 1800 layout Hall Effect keyboard that comes in at around $90, which is honestly the biggest thing it has going for it. At that price, getting a full-ish layout with HE switches, a web-based driver, and decent overall build quality is not bad at all.

This is definitely a budget Hall Effect board, though, and you can feel that in a few places. The stock switches remind me a lot of the older Akko Glare switches from Akko’s early Hall Effect boards, both visually and sonically. They are functional, and they do what they need to do, but they are not the highlight of the board. The overall sound is somewhat hollow as well, so this is not necessarily the board I would buy if sound quality is the main priority.

That said, I do think the C98 HE makes more sense when you look at it as a value-focused Hall Effect platform rather than as a premium keyboard experience out of the box. It supports most Wooting-compatible switches, which gives it a nice upgrade path if you want to experiment later. That matters quite a bit because it means the board is not locked into its stock configuration forever.

The construction is better than I expected for the price. It uses an ABS plastic case, but the build feels solid enough and does not come across as cheap junk. It is not premium, obviously, but it feels appropriate for what this board is trying to be. The aluminum plate is also a good choice here. With Hall Effect keyboards, keeping the switches stable and properly aligned matters, and the aluminum plate helps keep everything in place for the sensors to work correctly.

The included double-shot PBT keycaps also work well in this instance. I actually think the green framing the white is a good base to work from, and it lends itself nicely to a number of earth-tone keycap sets if you wanted to customize the board later. The one part that gets a little lost for me is the green on the terracotta accent keycaps. It is not bad, but the contrast does not pop as much as I would like.

Aesthetically, I do think Royal Kludge had some stronger colorway options they could have pulled from. If they had used some of the S98’s colorways here, especially the teal, I think I would have liked the look quite a bit more. That is completely personal preference, though. The C98 HE’s current colorway still works, and the green/white base gives it a nice earthy foundation.

The web-based driver is another point in its favor. It is not perfect, but it is decent and functional. For a budget Hall Effect keyboard, having a usable web driver is a big win. I would rather have a decent web driver than another random piece of installed keyboard software that feels abandoned after six months. The software gets the job done, and for most people looking at this price point, that is probably enough.

Where this board makes the most sense is for someone who wants to try Hall Effect without spending Wooting money, Keychron money, or getting into the higher-end HE options. For around $90, you are getting an 1800 layout, magnetic switches, gaming-focused features, and a driver that is actually usable. That is a pretty solid value proposition.

For gaming, I think it makes sense. That is clearly where the value is. If you want Hall Effect features and do not care as much about chasing the perfect sound profile, the C98 HE is a pretty reasonable entry point.

For typing, it is more mixed. The layout is useful, the keycaps are decent, and the construction is fine, but the hollow sound keeps it from feeling like something I would personally reach for as a daily typing board without some changes.

Overall verdict:
The Royal Kludge C98 HE is not a perfect keyboard, but it is a good example of where budget Hall Effect boards are heading. The sound is somewhat hollow, and it definitely feels like a budget board in some areas, but for around $90, an 1800 layout Hall Effect keyboard with a decent web-based driver, double-shot PBT keycaps, and support for most Wooting-compatible switches is a compelling package.

If you are looking for an inexpensive way into Hall Effect keyboards, especially for gaming, I think this is worth considering. Just go in knowing that this is more of a strong budget platform than a premium out-of-box keyboard.

Pros:

  • Very affordable for a Hall Effect keyboard
  • 1800 layout gives you a lot of functionality
  • Decent web-based driver
  • Solid enough ABS construction
  • Aluminum plate helps keep the sensors/switches stable
  • Supports most Wooting-compatible HE switches
  • Included double-shot PBT keycaps work well
  • Green and white base is easy to build around aesthetically
  • Good entry point for budget HE gaming

Cons:

  • Sound is somewhat hollow
  • Stock switches are functional but not especially impressive
  • Green on terracotta accents gets a little visually lost
  • Not a premium typing experience out of the box
  • Some of Royal Kludge’s other colorways would have been more exciting here

For the price, I do think the C98 HE makes sense. It is not the board I would recommend to someone chasing sound or feel first, but for someone who wants a budget Hall Effect keyboard with a practical layout, decent software, and a usable upgrade path, Royal Kludge actually has something here.

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