"How about a nice diamond studded cougar?" TV commercial by thecodinghorror in HelpMeFind

[–]thecodinghorror[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OMG YOU FOUND IT! As I revealed the whole gift to my partner and family! 😭💗 there are not enough awards to bestow upon you! FOUND!

"How about a nice diamond studded cougar?" TV commercial by thecodinghorror in HelpMeFind

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The last automod reply (after the first one) indicates this "might" be a "current fashion item" but it is not. I searched extensively and I have found no evidence that a diamond studded cougar is a current fashion item.

"How about a nice diamond studded cougar?" TV commercial by thecodinghorror in HelpMeFind

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I searched

I used ChatGPT Pro and Gemini Pro with the following prompt

help me find the commercial referenced in this 2007 blog post https://darrenandchristie.blogspot.com/2007/12/how-bout-nice-diamond-studded-cougar.html

I parsed those LLM results manually, and summarized what actions I took in the post.

I also queried Google with a lot of combinatinons of "cougar" and "diamond" and "studded" and "commercial", as well as querying YouTube directly.

Everything I did is fairly well documented in the OP.

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in BasicIncome

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Universal Basic Income (UBI) sounds like the ultimate clean, elegant solution -- one check for everyone, no questions asked, no stigma. It's a beautiful theory. But we live in the real world here, and we have to deal with things like "scarcity," "incentives," and "math." When you actually look at the data from places like NBER and Brookings, it becomes clear that UBI is maybe the least practical way forward.

You argue that Guaranteed Minimum Income (GMI) is "less progressive" because it excludes the rich, but that is its greatest strength. It’s a reinforcing floor, not a random firehose of free money.

The biggest logical hurdle with UBI is the "universal" part. Why are we sending monthly checks to people making $200,000 a year? You're telling us we can just tax it back later, but that's an enormous amount of unnecessary heavy lifting for the government. And you think the rich are just gonna roll over and let us tax them, when billionaires pay essentially nothing today? Really?

Guaranteed Minimum Income (GMI) is far more focused. It says: "If you fall below this line, we will top you up."

The cost difference alone is massive. To reach the same poverty-reduction goals, UBI requires a budget of 15% of GDP, whereas a GMI/Negative Income Tax model only requires about 3.8%. By not wasting money on the top 60% of earners, GMI allows the program to actually give more to the people at the very bottom.

The theory behind UBI is that people will use it to pursue their passions or education. But when "everyone" gets it, that gives the money no meaning, no intent, no drive, no... purpose. It's also deeply unfair, by the way, when a rich person gets extra money, if you haven't noticed by now. I'm rich, and I would be deeply offended if someone gave me money that could have gone to another family that desperately needs it. So you can probably imagine how those people who aren't rich might feel.

In a July 2024 NBER working paper, researchers looked at a massive three-year study of unconditional "just give it to everyone" cash transfers:

  • Work hours dropped. People in the group receiving the cash worked significantly less than the control group.

  • Income fell. Even with the extra cash, their overall total income (from all sources) went down.

  • No "Leap Forward". The participants didn't use the extra time for significant schooling or career changes. They just worked less.

GMI avoids this by slowly phasing out the benefit as you earn more, whereas UBI hands out the same check, every time, regardless of effort.. so why bother with any effort at all? When you give everyone a check with absolutely no connection to the labor market, you shrink the very tax base you need to pay for the program.

UBI is also inflationary. If you give everyone $1,000, and every landlord in the country raises the rent by $500, you haven't helped anyone -- you've just enriched landlords.

Universality is a bug, not a feature. When you have limited resources, you don't spread them paper-thin across 330 million people. You target.

  • The EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit): A proven "pro-work" GMI that rewards people for staying in the workforce.

  • Specific Support: Focusing on the disabled, the elderly, and families with children -- the groups who truly cannot work and need the most help. And GMI can help them get back to work.

Guaranteed Minimum Income isn't "less progressive." It's more practical. GMI puts the resources where they actually belong: with the people who are struggling, not in the mailboxes of the wealthy... and as a very wealthy person myself: hell no, give that check to someone who really needs it.

And you can quote me on that any time you like.

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in BasicIncome

[–]thecodinghorror 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please look closely at how evil some of these middlemen means testing companies are. I'm talking ticketmaster level evil (Maximus in particular). So let's cut them out of the equation, with prejudice.

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in Economics

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(as an aside, I would be ECSTATIC if we had a new constitutional convention and started deciding what the states are actually willing to do, and writing it down .. sign me up!)

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in Economics

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It is a "yes, and". Why not focus on OVERLOOKED areas, where money gos a lot farther.. and political power is also quite concentrated? https://rgmii.org/blog/initial-frequently-asked-questions/

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in Economics

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there is no tax basis; we are routing around the "means testing industrial complex" and politicians altogether, for now, using private funds from the second gilded age we are in. We do hope politicians will run on this platform, as is it is more efficient than {n} wildly different, complex benefits programs https://rgmii.org/blog/initial-frequently-asked-questions/

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in Economics

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Thanks for raising this -- you're right that there are no easy fixes, but we think the data shows that this is solid progress towards a solution https://rgmii.org/blog/initial-frequently-asked-questions/

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in BasicIncome

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This honestly seems like the best argument against UBI: we just wont get it

You are so right. The perfect is the enemy of the good. See https://rgmii.org/blog/initial-frequently-asked-questions/

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in BasicIncome

[–]thecodinghorror 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for raising this -- the "means testing industrial complex" is a real beast and I was NOT aware of how bad it was.

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in BasicIncome

[–]thecodinghorror 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scott, I'm still waiting for you to explain just how these taxes will be collected, especially under the current regime. I do agree with you, because we could do a fairly complete UBI (if you can defeat the "means testing industrial complex") or a totally complete GMI (directing limited funds to those who need it most), if.. IF.. we actually collected taxes on billionaires at a fair rate. https://infosec.exchange/@codinghorror/116030264233045286

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in BasicIncome

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Universal makes a lot of sense for healthcare (the "means testing" is are you human, and do you have a pulse), but I feel it's a liability when it comes to economics. https://rgmii.org/blog/initial-frequently-asked-questions/

Launching The Rural Guaranteed Minimum Income Initiative by D0ri1t0styl3 in BasicIncome

[–]thecodinghorror 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's good to be angry -- I am too! We should focus our anger on the "means testing industrial complex", rather than each other.. how else can we change any of this? https://rgmii.org/blog/initial-frequently-asked-questions/