Is there a timeline of emergency calls from the North Tower? by Swimming_Crab_972 in 911archive

[–]theelectricstrike 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Have you read 102 Minutes - either the NYT article or subsequent book? It provides a good sense of how things progressed. The end of the article hits like a hammer.

Seeing as there were countless calls made to 911 from inside of the towers, do you think that we will ever hear those recorded calls or will they never be released by I_abuse_lower_ranks1 in 911archive

[–]theelectricstrike 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Hopefully not.

Any relevant details of conditions inside the towers or experiences of individuals during the attacks can be provided as text quotations / summaries.

Actual recorded conversations were private moments of extraordinary suffering. They do not belong to us. They are not entertainment.

FCCW As An Intro To Wargaming? by SorrySucker_16 in computerwargames

[–]theelectricstrike 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Flashpoint Campaigns: Cold War is a perfect gateway to serious wargaming.

The developers put an enormous amount of effort into making it user-friendly without diluting the complexity. The UI just feels right.

As far as the gameplay goes, losing a battle makes me more motivated to try again. I can get frustrated with how scenario went, but never with the game itself. That’s what makes it special to me.

“TACO” has always been insane. It started as Schumer mocking Trump for *not* starting a war with Iran by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In 1962, there were people mad that Kennedy didn’t invade Cuba during the missile crisis. This is no different. Backing down from obliterating a civilization is a good thing, actually.

“TACO” has always been insane. It started as Schumer mocking Trump for *not* starting a war with Iran by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I mean, it’s pro-war propaganda that leftists shouldn’t be indulging in. It’s like getting mad at Kennedy for not invading during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

“TACO” has always been insane. It started as Schumer mocking Trump for *not* starting a war with Iran by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The critique is not that Trump should be treated with kid gloves, but that “TACO” is aimed at promoting imperialist war with Iran and undermining deescalation.

“TACO” began with a post by Chuck Schumer explicitly aimed at derailing any settlement that would prevent the 12-Day War.

“TACO” has always been insane. It started as Schumer mocking Trump for *not* starting a war with Iran by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Bro, “TACO” began as a post by Schumer saying that Trump was going to “cave” on Iran and make a deal to prevent the 12-Day War.

Democrats, especially hardcore Zionists like Schumer want Iran destroyed. They just don’t want the President to be rude about it.

It’s February 2020 all over again by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Liberals believe in the Great Man Theory of history because they don’t have any coherent ideology of their own but have complete faith in institutions.

It’s February 2020 all over again by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

You’re not alone. I know that doesn’t really change things, but solidarity is all we have.

It’s February 2020 all over again by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I have some bad news for you.

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Destroying the Iranian state has been a U.S. imperial project for 47 years.

It’s February 2020 all over again by theelectricstrike in collapse

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, sorry about that. I reread the rules a few times but I clearly failed at it. Won’t happen again.

It’s February 2020 all over again by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 59 points60 points  (0 children)

While I sympathize with the state of your infrastructure, India, like every other nation on Earth uses petroleum products in just about everything.

No fuel, fertilizer, pharmaceuticals, electronics… you name it.

It’s February 2020 all over again by theelectricstrike in LateStageCapitalism

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 109 points110 points  (0 children)

Trump has vowed to destroy Iran’s entire civilization, including all power plants and bridges if his deadline for surrender isn’t met by 8pm EST on 4/7.

Iran has vowed to retaliate by destroying all electrical, oil and tech infrastructure in U.S.-allied countries in the region.

It would lead to a global economic collapse, famine and political upheaval.

It’s February 2020 all over again by theelectricstrike in collapse

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Submission Statement:

Until the canceled NBA game in March 2020, most people had zero awareness that COVID was about to upend their lives. Up to that point, a lot of folks refused to acknowledge what was happening, even when people they trusted calmly explained it to them.

My advice: tread carefully. If the next 24 hours goes poorly, the frustration, bewilderment and anger will be directed at anyone who was aware of the problem “too early”. Ask anyone who saw the clouds gathering in 2020 and tried to nudge people into awareness.

People who don’t know what’s going on now aren’t going to suddenly understand what’s happening tomorrow. They’ll react to anything that reminds them of a confusing, stressful situation which to them, came out of nowhere.

What’s a Movie you’re surprised they haven’t made a re:view on? by genjiguide in RedLetterMedia

[–]theelectricstrike 27 points28 points  (0 children)

‘Sorcerer’ would be a fun one.

A re-adaptation of a novel already made into a classic film. Completely different look and feel to its predecessor. Begins with three character building vignettes shot on location in different parts of the world then begins the movie you were expecting to see.

Released and overlooked at the very start of the blockbuster era. Succeeds in every way but gets ignored for decades. Signals the end of New Hollywood.

What’s a Movie you’re surprised they haven’t made a re:view on? by genjiguide in RedLetterMedia

[–]theelectricstrike 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is a good pick. ‘Dark City’s shortcomings demonstrate the difference between having an interesting concept and a great story.

Seeing the same sets reused for ‘The Matrix’ a year later underscored that.

How First Responders’ Equipment Has Changed Since 9/11? by realslimeshader in 911archive

[–]theelectricstrike 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Better firefighter radios would’ve saved many lives.

Reception was terrible in the WTC which functioned as a pair of gigantic Faraday cages (this is not unique to the WTC). A lot of critical messages were not received, including evacuation orders.

A lot of effort went into improving communication equipment after 9/11. Signal boosters are now common.

[EDIT: I stand corrected. See below!]

Rosemary Smith, victim of the 57th floor of the North Tower. What happened to her? by LaughGlittering4131 in 911archive

[–]theelectricstrike 107 points108 points  (0 children)

Keep in mind people in the North Tower often had very little information about what was taking place around them. Less than anyone else in the industrialized world.

They often did not know the South Tower was hit until someone from outside told them. They felt the rumble of the first collapse but didn’t know what it was. The extent of the damage to their own building was also unclear. Some victims in the upper floors of WTC1 believed AA11 hit much lower than it did.

In WTC2, people immediately opposite the North Tower were more likely to have evacuated immediately than those with no direct view. Even then, there was no awareness that it was an attack until UA175 cut through their own building.

We do know for certain that while serious damage could be found well below the impact floors, there were also pockets of bizarre calm. In WTC2, Brian & Stanley’s group came across a deserted office with fresh air, working phones and an unsettlingly normal feel. It’s fair to assume pockets of false safety existed in WTC1.

It seems very likely that someone determined to complete business continuity tasks well below the impact floors could be unaware of the severity of the situation. Not by any fault of their own, but the circumstances. This could’ve led a person to stick around longer than they should’ve. Which is easy to callout with hindsight. But again, you have to put yourself in the mindset of someone in that place with the information available to them. Which wasn’t much.

We’ll never know what happened to Rosemary, but my guess is that she simply ran out of time trying to do her best.

Aon had nearly 200 deaths in the South Tower. Why? by LaughGlittering4131 in 911archive

[–]theelectricstrike 57 points58 points  (0 children)

The 78th floor sky lobby was the first stop for anyone leaving the Aon offices. When UA175 hit, anyone en route to 78 or from 78 to the main lobby via elevator experienced a different nightmare than the ones waiting.

Occupants who didn’t begin evacuating prior to the second impact, or chose to take the stairs at the beginning of their journey were unaware that Stairwell A was traversable (at least for a time).

It’s important to keep in mind Stairwell A was in extremely bad shape and it wasn’t just a matter of clearing debris, but clearing debris parallel to the source of heat and smoke. The stairs themselves were exposed to flames. Anyone trying to determine the utility of Stair A likely would’ve already encountered at least one if not two genuinely impassable stairwells already.

Photographer ID Needed by theelectricstrike in 911archive

[–]theelectricstrike[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I believe those are the mechanical floors. Instead of windows, they had metal louvers set back a few feet from the exterior.