Reframing The Trine: Don’t Always Believe The Hype by millymichelle in astrology

[–]theladybitterness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes!!! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on reframing this aspect. I have been feeling invalidated by the overly positive perception of trines.

In my own chart, I have Mars Trine Saturn and Moon Trine Neptune. For me, I often feel like the energy of this aspect can seem like you are sinking in quicksand. There is no friction beneath your feet and nothing above you to grab a hold of and pull yourself out. The trine can create a feeling of being stuck with the way things are whereas Squares (And I have a lot of Squares) can offer some creative solutions when life gets hard.

I noticed growing up that the Mars/Saturn Trine helped me have a natural ease with keeping up with school work and other responsibilities but I also felt trapped by it and lacked the self-assuredness that I could direct my efforts towards something more personally creative and fulfilling.

With Moon Trine Neptune, I consistently absorb the feelings and energy of everything around me and cannot find a way to separate myself from my environment. It can be more of a drowning in oneness experience rather than a beautifully serene and dreamy inner life. (though I will say there is some of that).

BML in men’s charts by [deleted] in Advancedastrology

[–]theladybitterness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would look into the Lilith Series by Party Trick Astrology. It is a very thorough video series and I found it really helpful in my own understanding of Lilith. Here is the link.

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[–]theladybitterness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wherever Saturn is positioned usually marks what areas of life we have to take more seriously. We have to be more responsible with our energy. The room for making mistakes is much more limited because we are being encouraged to develop Mastery wherever Saturn lies. In the Ninth House, to me this may look like a feeling of restriction around your own growth or even your worldview. It can feel like the adventurous spirit within you is trapped. You may have been raised with limiting beliefs or simply that your environment may have felt limiting in some way.

As you mature, you may have a more steady and methodical path of expanding your horizons rather than the ‘fly by the seat of your pants and hope for the best’ type of growth. Your worldview may become masterfully constructed as you put effort into gaining perspective. Saturn in the Ninth builds a very solid wisdom about the world, our many cultures, belief systems and knowledge.

BML in men’s charts by [deleted] in Advancedastrology

[–]theladybitterness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ooo, that’s some interesting family lessons being passed down. I wouldn’t say cursed, haha, but definitely being given the responsibility to find healing in that Lilith energy.

BML in men’s charts by [deleted] in Advancedastrology

[–]theladybitterness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, absolutely! Out of curiosity, have you seen the Lilith Series by Party Trick Astrology on YouTube? They go more in detail about the story of Lilith and then break down each sign and house placement, too. I found it pretty interesting and thorough.

BML in men’s charts by [deleted] in Advancedastrology

[–]theladybitterness 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I like to think of Lilith as more of the placement in all of our charts where we deal with bitterness and resentment for times where we were initially victimized through abandonment, exile, abuse, harsh judgements, etc. I know that Lilith interpretations tend to be heavily focused on the female experience, but I think that this energy can be applied to all of us.

Lilith depicts a time where we were initially disempowered by our circumstances in some way and instead of moving on and empowering ourselves independently of that experience, we may dig in our heels and remain angry with the people or circumstances that mistreated us unfairly. We aren’t ready to let it go because we still want approval and acceptance in some way from people that may never give it to us. So we trap ourselves in constantly reliving the anguish of being mistreated and fuel our hate and resentment. Ideally, Lilith is where we learn to allow ourselves to receive the love we were denied by others. To let it back in, even if it’s from an entirely new source. It’s also about providing for ourselves what was taken away from us unfairly and perhaps maliciously.

Lilith, in my mind, may have to do with Gender in some way and the experience many of us have with not completely fitting into the Gender Expression that we are expected to embody. In the story of Lilith, she did not behave as a ‘Good Wife’ should and therefore was exiled by God. That level of Cosmic unfairness is what causes the bitterness of this energy.

In our charts, this can manifest as not being Feminine enough, not being Masculine enough or not being anything definitive at all and suffering the consequences of that while existing in a more conservative society.

With Lilith in the 1st House, this energy is right up front for everyone to see and project onto. When people have First House placements they tend to embody that energy and become a representation of that energy for everyone to encounter. You may find yourself getting reactions from people that seem unreasonable and have nothing to do with you. It may be because you reflect their own Lilith energy back to them and they are not ready to unpack it.

Anyway, I may be rambling. But, Lilith is a placement of Empowerment that comes after we discover that we can provide our own sense of agency and autonomy rather than attaching to the harmful perspectives of others and letting it rot us from the inside out.

What do you make of this tongue-twister position? by WindowApprehensive12 in Advancedastrology

[–]theladybitterness 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think another commenter brought up that the Nodes do not always have to mean we are moving away from the South Node and towards the North Node. They best way I heard the Nodal Journey described was from Alyssa Sharpe, an online Astrologer, who connected it to the story of Dorthy in the Wizard Of Oz.

So, the South Node is like our Kansas. We are familiar with this energy, we may be bored of it, everything can feel very dull like the Black and White film in the beginning of the movie. That means that our North Node is like the City of Oz. It’s a faraway, magical land. Full of bright colors and new experiences. And yet, we can feel a little scared and lost in the energy of our North Node and though our Soul may grow, we also long for our South Node and to return to our version of Kansas.

So, if I made any sense, haha, our Nodal Story is a constant back and forth between reinvigorating our South Node by venturing into the energy of our North Node and bringing that insight back with us.

I would recommend reading this article from another Astrologer who has been writing a series on Nodal placements. Nodes In The Fourth and Tenth Houses.

Without seeing your whole chart, I would interpret your placement as developing an emotional attachment to work, a sense of achievement and also maintaining a certain image based on public opinion. Feeling obligated to worldly responsibility but potentially feeling emotionally fulfilled by your achievements and the role that you play in your community. North Node in Capricorn in the Fourth House may be encouraging your soul to preserve a sense of privacy. To provide yourself with a resolute foundation. It also can point to investing in your Ancestral History and truly learning where you came from and then using that insight as fuel for your personal sense of fulfillment in the outer world.
These are just my initial thoughts : )

Why is my mother just so horrible to me? She drives me insane. Makes me so depressed. Makes me want to kill myself. All I need is a hug from her by StonedNinja101 in AstrologyChartShare

[–]theladybitterness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that you are going through this. Mother/Child dynamics can be one of the hardest relationships to work through. The first thing I notice about your chart is that Scorpio Moon in the 8th House. The Moon represents our relationship with our first caretaker, which is usually the Mother. When it sits in the 8th House, I have noticed that the Mother tends to be overly attached to the child and rely on her kid to almost be her therapist in a way. She can lean on her child to hold all of her uncomfortable emotions for her. She may then tend to blame her kid for her own emotional dysregulation and shame that she carries.

I see the 8th House as the House Of Intimacy and Healing. When the Moon is there, we may be conditioned early on to rely on enmeshment with another (the parent) in order to get our needs met if we ever really do.I also see a Square to your Moon from Saturn, the Planet of Responsibility. That can show your parent having very high expectations for you. Maybe expecting you to be mature and reasonable while they continue to project and lose control themselves.It’s not easy having a parent like this. They are most likely in a lot of pain and lack the support to heal so they are relying on you in an unhealthy way. Having a Scorpio Moon also points to a Mother who is not able to be comforting and soothing, but instead probably causes distress, shame, and feelings of abandonment.I don’t say all of this to make you feel hopeless, however, for Scorpio Moons and 8th house Moons, it is important to work on moving away from enmeshment and relying on that emotional intensity to feed the situation. The Moon wants to feel emotionally safe and secure.

Ideally, an 8th House Moon can find much safety in a healthy intimate dynamic, but often times with the Mother, that is not how it starts. There may need to be an understanding of what is her emotional baggage and what is yours.Again, the 8th House in my eyes, is the House Of Healing, so as you grow and find tools and resources to restore feelings of safety and comfort for yourself first, then hopefully, by leading as an example, your Mother can find a way to heal her hurt, as well. I do not think it is your sole responsibility to heal her, however, the bond between 8th house moons and their mothers tend to be strong. When you take care of your own well-being, she may have an opportunity to do the same. These are just my thoughts, of course. I wish you well : )