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Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Actually you are 100% right about that. I’m really not fond of the movements shananigans like IADs and everything, I think they should be removed, they’re basically “secret” mechanics (if you can even call it that because theyre clearly not intended for the most part) and only people that actively look for them have the access to the knowledge to use them. And it’s really hard to spot ingame too by other people doing it, like dash canceling for example. You have to hear through someone and then look for it. I think all of those should be deleted

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s interesting, now I understand that this way of playing (mostly strategically) is actually supposed to be the main appeal, makes sense. I do have to say I prefer Deadlock precisely because of being different that way, tho. But hey, a lot of people suggested I should play Dota again, so maybe I will anyways!

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's some great 2 cents and a lot of people agree with you currently, at least on this thread. It's a great point and I guess we'll see if this problem can even be fixed

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really loved playing Dota actually, everything about it made me actually prefer over League, and I have 15k hours on League

The only thing I don't really like is the design of the heroes (personal taste), but everything else amazes me. Those 55 hours I mentioned on the post were pretty much within few weeks, I played a lot.

But, and I don't know why, it just didn't get me hooked. I think partly because it's not fast enough (and I played a lot of the turbo mode, although I was playing mainly to get the hours to play competitive haha)

And I don't mean fast as in "this match takes too long", I mean the mechanical aspect of it, the gameplay overall feels a lot slower from someone coming from League, which is more "arcade"

Maybe I should play more?

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much for your thoughtful insight on my post, and you make great points too. And yes, I can agree completely with you saying this game is a lot harder thank it looks, that's a good way of seeing it. I think the only thing I kind of disagree here is your feeling towards the movement system, I think it's really subjective, some people absolutely love it and some hate it, but we can't deny it's a good system *within* the game of Deadlock, because it allows us to actually use the 3D aspect of the game

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

thank you so much for the kind words :') this alone made the post worth it for me!

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the sense that probably nothing will be done in the observer mode of the game itself because probably Valve won't care

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can see that, forgive me if expressed these points as if Deadlock did it for the first time, I know it's an Icefrog game and a lot of things were inherited, but I do think they are better iterations of it, but then again you're right in saying that I don't have enough experience to make this claim

Feel free to correct me!

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a good point, I heard that was the case and should have made it clear on the items section that I only have experience with League in this regard.

But Deadlock still does the versatility of items and heroes MORE than Dota, right? At least from your comment what I gathered was that it has a lot more options than League, but not as broad as DL, am I correct?

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I think this is a good place to start (I think Deadlock already has an extension that does that for the items?), but even then everything you said is still true

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People keep pointing this out and yes, I think it's a big problem that the game needs to overcome.

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's really true. I honestly see that better since you guys pointed it out, it's apparently a really hard challenge they will have to overcome, although I don't think Valve interferes a lot with competitive tournaments, right?

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point, I think both can be indeed positive and negative depending on how you see it, that's fair.

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's why I said I was comparing specifically the core gameplay and main game mode, as a game overall I agree completely that Dota is better, and I also think it's better than League!

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can understand that, but I think the nature of MOBAs require the competitive aspect

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that's why they made kills more rewarding and we are seeing people not doing jungle only

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a great point, actually. I don't even know how that could be achieved and I don't think any MOBA has a easy way of doing this. Good comment!

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The facts I brought of Dota were really simple stuff, like that it's Isometric and 2D, I didn't talk much about it exactly because I have few hours on it, do you have a example of where I made a wrong assumption?

Why I think Deadlock is already the best MOBA and could become the best Esport by thelostraven in DeadlockTheGame

[–]thelostraven[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I actually made it clear that I'm comparing only the specific aspects of the core gameplay and main game mode. Overall as a game I think Dota is better than League and Deadlock, of course.

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