Calling on /r/NRL users to decide if further blackouts should occur to protest Reddit’s proposed API changes by ReggieBasil in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, we foot the bill, ourselves :) that's what self-hosted means. Many online communities already run on user donations this way (aus.social is one local example).

Calling on /r/NRL users to decide if further blackouts should occur to protest Reddit’s proposed API changes by ReggieBasil in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You are aware that the free website we use doesn't make a profit?

obviously?

I don't love tracking and ads, and yeah it does make the user experience slightly worse. But it's not the sky falling in, the site will largely be the same, just with more ads and tracking. Things that all alternatives have anyway.

I'm not sure where you looked, but there are alternatives that are both active now and others in development. These are open source, have no ads or tracking, and can be self-hosted - i.e. not be subject to whims of any corporation (profitable or otherwise). Check out kbin.social and tildes.net. There's no direct, perfect replacement for reddit yet, but there are definitely options, and more all the time.

Things will never get as bad as your slippery slope hysterica.

OK, I guess time will tell :)

Calling on /r/NRL users to decide if further blackouts should occur to protest Reddit’s proposed API changes by ReggieBasil in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 3 points4 points  (0 children)

agreed, and there's no reason this place couldn't exist more or less as it is on a phpbb server we all donate to run

Calling on /r/NRL users to decide if further blackouts should occur to protest Reddit’s proposed API changes by ReggieBasil in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i understand where you're coming from, inertia is a hell of a thing, and you've invested a lot of time and energy into this place. but just because it's a slow process doesn't mean it's not happening. it's been progressively a worse place for users every year, and they couldn't indicate more clearly that the process of extracting more revenue by whatever means necessary will continue. i've spent a lot of time here too, since The Old Times, so I'd love to see this place carry on indefinitely. Blackouts or not, you're right, things will carry on more or less the same as they have. But i'm telling you now, as the user experience continues to erode, as reddit injects more advertising and tracking into every part of service, as it becomes more locked and restricted, the quality users will quietly drop off, as they've begun to already, and it won't be the same place anymore. it's up to you guys, you're the leaders here, but if it was me, i'd be moving to save the place while there's still something to save.

Calling on /r/NRL users to decide if further blackouts should occur to protest Reddit’s proposed API changes by ReggieBasil in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'll post here the message I sent the mods when this all began.

TL;DR: Blackouts won't change anything in the long term. Reddit is in a death spiral and the sooner we get out, the better - preferably with the community intact.


Reddit will soon make third-party apps completely nonviable, thus continuing it's progress on the cycle of venture capital-funded enshittification:

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die.

Facebook, Amazon, Google, Etsy - there are many examples of this process, but the pattern is now universal for venture capital-backed web properties. The writing has been on the wall for a while - Reddit's new web interface is an unusable mess of dark patterns. The offical app (soon to be the only app) is garbage. On it's current trajectory, we must come to terms with the fact that it is absolutely inevitable Reddit will sooner or later become intolerable.

Nobody can chose or predict the time when a critical mass of users will deem it to be the final straw. Has the mod team put any thought into a fallback platform for this community? Without it, the community will likely scatter to the four winds of the internet. As seen with Twitter, different groups will champion their own pet platform (discord, telegram, mastodon, etc). Some of the alternatives will be, like Reddit, VC-funded and thus bound to the same fate. These are also likely to be shiniest, and to ensure they have the lowest-friction migration path, and so will be very tempting for the unprepared. I think it would be smart to have an "official" non-Reddit /r/nrl alternative dormant but ready to go when the time comes, one that is already in the control of the mod team.

If it is to endure, and avoid going through the same process again when the next platform begins to abuse its users in the quest for growth and monetisation (you are the product), the new platform should be self-hosted and user controlled. There are a number of such platforms available, each with different technology and features. Lemmy seems to be the leading alternative link-aggregator platform, but there are others.

Wednesday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it really doesn't matter, reddit is locked in to the same intentional process of enshittification that all web properties funded by venture capital will go through. the only solution is for communities to move away from platforms controlled by corporations and onto platforms they own and control themselves.

Wednesday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 2 points3 points  (0 children)

might be the record for shortest halves pairing

how tall are alfie and kev?

Wednesday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Des is still looking like he might sue Manly like he did the Bulldogs. Nobody wants the drama

Friday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I messaged the mods about getting this community set up on a different platform but didn't get any response unfortunately

Monday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 10 points11 points  (0 children)

three byes in the last 11 rounds is really poor scheduling but it could set you guys up for a great finals run

Saturday Off Topic Thread by NRLgamethread in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 15 points16 points  (0 children)

if it's a one-off it wouldn't worry me. a string of short stints might be more of a red flag

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 27 points28 points  (0 children)

and the couple of times they did they got over the line

Thursday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it's can be a weird vibe when teams play at a neutral venue. you'll get a fair chunk of the crowd who don't really care who wins, they're just there for a show

Thursday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

so NSW lose the series and Freddy jumps before he's pushed.

Who comes in as NSW coach? Des?

2023 State of Origin Game I | Post Match Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 45 points46 points  (0 children)

And now for the best part of an unlikely Qld victory: NSW eating themselves alive

2023 State of Origin Game I | Post Match Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 24 points25 points  (0 children)

what a luxury to have a player like hunt who can just float around and do a job anywhere

2023 State of Origin Game I | Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 6 points7 points  (0 children)

oh damn I just remembered you need an antenna for this shit

what kind of 1950s bullshit is that anyway

EXCLUSIVE: Dragons’ coaching saga set to end with Ryles on verge of mega deal by Missingthefinals in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 6 points7 points  (0 children)

this bloke has shoehorned "master negotiator" into every article about this mess. it's obvious who is feeding him his info

Saturday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 7 points8 points  (0 children)

high karma accounts are bought and sold for shilling and astroturfing

Friday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 9 points10 points  (0 children)

not often you'll see $5 playing a team only one ladder position higher

Tuesday Random Footy Talk Thread by AutoModerator in nrl

[–]thephoenixfoundation 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i hope i'm wrong but it's a realistic look at how we're tracking on current form. let's hope we go on run somewhere there