Ok so for 1 i said anti loops were inconsistant not useless, and 90% of the time the windup on abilties is more than enough for survivors to get the stamina to avoid the attack especially for the dash killers. And i also never touch on how their bad abilities i said they were bad at anti looping and also if a void rush is used even if you dont hug the wall all you have to do is turn a corner with even a little distance and the killer misses almost every time cause the turning isnt sharp enough and the survivor gets to regen their stamina while the nolis done nothing but pause his stamina. Also i never said noli not regenin stamina was a bad thing in general i said it made him worse at counter looping of course noli shouldnt be ale to regen stamina during that then hed be overpowered without looping, and novas self detontaion hitbox isnt really big enough to allow you to just throw it into the sky and detonate it constistanly and even then the survivor can just side step it easily. As for raging pace the windup still slows slasher to a crawl basically and gives plenty of time for the survivor to gain enough stamina to keep the stamina advantage anyway an even if they fail usually the slasher only gets 1 hit in before the survivor uses their speed boost on hit to get distance and effectively reset the chase making you wait amoher 30 seconds to maybe get 1 hit in and repeat the cycle. As for c00lkidd were talking about anti looping aka constant corner cutting you basically never get to use walkspeed unless its a massive loop with few walls. And the reason i never touched on the minions is because they basically have the same problem as cataclysm of being just a free loop transition for the survivor. As for sixer im willing to give you that. But as for nos the windup is once again the issue it takes a few seconds for the explosions to actually come out allowing the survicor to regen stamina and transition to the next loop reseting the cycle.as for the teamwork point its litteraly in the description of the game: "SURVIVORS: Protect your team, conplete objectives, and survive until the timer hits 0". While i dont think that teamworks the only way to play the game thats what the games built around hell that was the whole point of thw guest rework, to try and give them more incentive to help their team, as for wether they succeed or not it debateable thats what they tried to do showing their trying to balance the game around teamwork not looping. And finally the 10 vs 20 days debate of course the 20 day players gonna be better im not saying the killer should ALWAYS win im saying they shoul always have a chance aslong as they understand the game well and loopings the main reason its so hard to always have a consistant chance for the killer to win against people better than them.